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byfaith
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To clarify that what was being reported was false.
You say that I shot the first cannonball...you mean I disagreed with you.
You seem overly angry wildb, and while I can respect that you are passionate about Christ and what you see as a threat, you are coming across without any love in you at all.
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You know I looked real hard for some of these other religions and other god followers in front of the Court house the 6th and all I seen was Born again Spirit FILLED! SPIRIT LED! AMERICANS!
You are a closet professor of Christ. Even going as far as to post a snopes thing to support YOUR PRESIDENT.
You like fighting with the sisters I see well Im back.
Try me on for size.
I posted a snoped link to clarify.
I suppose he is my president, although I did not vote for him. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
I think you are missing the point wildb.
I am not fighting with anyone, are you? You have been calling me a name "closet christian" that my sir, is something someone who wants to start a fight would say.
Clarify what? And it was you that shot the first cannon ball across the bow of TRUTH.
Oh I have not missed your point at all.
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Hum- no prayer at the White House this year because some Moztecs that work at the PENTAGON complained?
Yet look at who Humbles himself in a Moztec nation for the camera to feed the sheeple back home last year April?
US Presiden Barack Obama (2nd R) and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan (L) take off their shoes as they visit the Blue Mosque with Muslim clerics Emrullah Hatipoglu (R) and Mustafa Cagrici (L) in Istanbul, Turkey, 07 April 2009. US President Barack Obama has ended his European tour by saying he is committed to opening a "new chapter in American engagement" with the Muslim world. EPA/KAYHAN OZER
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Prayer has always been used in this country for guidance, protection and strength-even before we were a nation or a handful of colonies. The Pilgrims at Plymouth relied on prayer during their first and darkest winter. Our founding fathers also called for prayer during the Constitutional Congress. In their eyes, our recently created nation and freedoms were a direct gift from God. And being a gift from God, there was only one way to insure protection-through prayer. None of these went to their closets....
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Originally posted by WildB:
You know I looked real hard for some of these other religions and other god followers in front of the Court house the 6th and all I seen was Born again Spirit FILLED! SPIRIT LED! AMERICANS!
You are a closet professor of Christ. Even going as far as to post a snopes thing to support YOUR PRESIDENT.
You like fighting with the sisters I see well Im back.
Try me on for size.
I posted a snopes link to clarify that what was being reported is false.
I suppose he is my president, although I did not vote for him.
I think you are missing the point wildb.
I am not fighting with anyone, are you? You have been calling me a name "closet christian" that my sir, is something someone who wants to start a fight would say.
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Originally posted by WildB:
You know I looked real hard for some of these other religions and other god followers in front of the Court house the 6th and all I seen was Born again Spirit FILLED! SPIRIT LED! AMERICANS!
You are a closet professor of Christ. Even going as far as to post a snopes thing to support YOUR PRESIDENT.
You like fighting with the sisters I see well Im back.
Try me on for size.
I posted a snoped link to clarify.
I suppose he is my president, although I did not vote for him.
I think you are missing the point wildb.
I am not fighting with anyone, are you? You have been calling me a name "closet christian" that my sir, is something someone who wants to start a fight would say.
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Hey WildB!
Let me add one last thing.
It's true we can all pray individually, and indeed we should. But that isn't the same as when millions of us all pray together on the same day for the same thing - for our country.
I can't think of a better way to organize that than to have a National Day of Prayer.
I guess our sister must have closets next to each other all in a neat nice roll facing up front where another single closet, which is facing back from up on stage at the building she goes to on Sunday.lol Give me a break...
Again I am very surprised and saddened to find this PC **** being peddled here.
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It was good I was up front today at City hall in Lapeer @ 6:00 because my Guidon training came in handy.
During the National Anthem the wind blew over the Young Marines Company Flag!
As I was uncovered and at attention I quickly recovered and ran forward and re-posted it and came to a parade rest till the National Anthem was over then quietly returned to the hundreds who had gathered.
NATIONAL DAY of PRAYER LAPEER COUNTY
May 6,2010 59th Annual Observance
Color Guard Flag Presentation.... Lapeer County Young Marines
National Anthem... Taylor Weir MapleGrove Church
Pledge of Allegiance.....Retired Snior Master Sergeant Jake Little US Air Force
Welcome @ Opening Prayer.... Pastor Gary Gillim MapleGrove Church
America the Beautiful....sang by Liz Gillim
Scripture Reading, Psalm 91:1-4...Tim Martin New Life Christian Fellowship
Quote from John Hancock.....Kevin Daley MI State Representative
Scripture Reading, 1 Timothy 2:1-4.......Pastor Jim Lorch Hunters Creek Community Church
Quote from Samuel Adams... Byron Konchub Lapeer County Prosecuting Attorney
Scripture Reading,Deuteronomy 4:30-31...Pastor Jeff Wells Faith Christian Family Church
Quote from James Buchanan...Sheriff Ron Kalanquin
Quote from Continental Congress on June 12,1775...Commissioner Lenny Schneider District #4
Scripture Reading,Psalm 31:24 and Psalm 130:5 Pastor Dan Burger Lapeer Assembly of God
Small Group Prayer
Amazing Grace... sang by Liz Gillim
Quote from Rober E. Lee..... Rev. Dr. Lisa Saliga
Qute from Samuel Adams, 1794.... Pastor Don Hadley
Quote from Francis Scoot Key... Pastor Anthoney Kinsler
Scripture Reading, 1 Samuel 43:1-2...Pastor Gerald Sims
Quote from Pedsident George Washington, 1784... Pastor Keith Atwood
Invitation to Children.... Elizabeth Gillim
"Pray"..... Mary Alessi
Closing Prayer..... Pastor Gary Gillim
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Hey WildB!
Let me add one last thing.
It's true we can all pray individually, and indeed we should. But that isn't the same as when millions of us all pray together on the same day for the same thing - for our country.
I can't think of a better way to organize that than to have a National Day of Prayer.
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You know I looked real hard for some of these other religions and other god followers in front of the Court house the 6th and all I seen was Born again Spirit FILLED! SPIRIT LED! AMERICANS!
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Yes! that is true, regardless of whether they do it on a certain declared day
WE do need to pray, I agree! And we need to pray for strength to deal with what we or our children will have to deal with.
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I agree with that!!!
And we know that when a nation full of Christians pray, God will answer.
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sigh.....no that is not my feeling.
God is in charge, right? His time.
He won't let anything happen but in the order it is supposed to.
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When our freedom is gone, then the only way anyone will be able to pray in secret is by renouncing Christ in public.
There are Christians all over the world that have no freedom...does that change the fact they are Christians? No.
So while I understand that you are saying that it is a hard pressed time ahead of us if and when we lose our freedom to express our beliefs in public...I am saying that it is going to happen, nothing you can do to stop it.
The end is written. We will be persecuted.
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When our freedom is gone, then the only way anyone will be able to pray in secret is by renouncing Christ in public.
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No, shame on you, for taking so lightly our freedoms slipping away little by little. Shame on you for joking about such a serious subject. Our Country is in grave danger and to make fun of the desire of Americans who want to see our Country to come together in prayer, is sad.
There will come a day when there will be no closet Christians. We will have to stand up for the truth of God's Word and be counted.
betty
Sorry to ruffle your easily ruffled feathers.
I DO NOT understand your take on this at all....you have no idea how we as a country ARE NOT a Christian country.
Do you not read Revelations? The end is already written, and if you think America's freedoms are in danger, you have seen nothing yet.
**and By the way, I am no closet Christian as you say** because I said something about prayers done in secret. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
My point is this- Let them take the National day of praying to the god/gods of your choice day, YOU can still pray as per usual...
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No, shame on you, for taking so lightly our freedoms slipping away little by little. Shame on you for joking about such a serious subject. Our Country is in grave danger and to make fun of the desire of Americans who want to see our Country to come together in prayer, is sad.
There will come a day when there will be no closet Christians. We will have to stand up for the truth of God's Word and be counted.
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So, if I don't get upset about our country holding up a national day of prayer (to the god of one's choice mind you) I am now a closet christian?
The National Day of Prayer is for ALL religions, why would this make me a lesser diligent follower of Christ?
I guess I should repent for not following the prayer time set aside that all the people regardless of the god they pray to, shame on me indeed. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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God calls forth His people to come out of obscurity into the light so that we can each become the light to the world that we are called to be. Jesus says:
“You are the light of the world. A city that is set on a hill cannot be hidden. Nor do they light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father in heaven.” (Matthew 5:14-16)
A city that is set on a hill cannot be obscure. So also when the light of Jesus is shinning through you, no longer will you be obscure. A light can never be obscure unless it stops being a light.
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Prayer can be done with or without the government's consent.
I don't fret over "losing" a right to a National day of prayer.
It is a funny thing really, as Christ instructed to go pray in your closet where you are not seen by others.
Exactly, I like the way you think, byfaith.
And it's a good thing that the founding fathers proclaimed that "no one religion shall be made into the state religion", so that "it all remains voluntary".
There is only one kind of love, and that is voluntary love. And we can pray any time of the day, and on any day, and who will know it? No one needs to know it. I pray every day because I need help from God to guide me every day and to overcome life's obstacles with God's favor.
For all I care they can abolish National Prayer Day any time, because the Devil likes National Prayer Day. Why? Because that leaves the impression for people who don't normally pray that "praying one day out of the year is going to help".
God knows who believes in Him, so a one-time prayer by an otherwise barely believing person is not going to be honored by God anyway. Jesus knows His sheep and He is not fooled by one-time National Prayer Day. Better to abolish it, so we can "pray in secret in our closet", as byfaith said.
love, Eden
I expected a response like this from the specular board that I witness on, not here.
Standing in front of City Hall with other born again believers praying for ones Nation is not the same as one standing in front of the Temples entrance praying to be seen how religious you are. You have missed what Christ was really teaching.
Your faith is so very shallow.
Jesus also said where 2 or more are gathered in my name there I am. So we all got in our mobile closets not to be see, but herd for our Nations sake.
Did not Danial open up his windows to pray even after he knew that the Law said he would be making a lions den trip?
When Davids own men were going to stone him because all their families had been kidnapped because of one of his decisions did he go into his closet? No he did not!
1Sam.30
[6] And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David encouraged himself in the LORD his God.
Doesn't sound like a man that ran off into a closet to me.
You closet Christians greatly trouble me.
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Prayer can be done with or without the government's consent.
I don't fret over "losing" a right to a National day of prayer.
It is a funny thing really, as Christ instructed to go pray in your closet where you are not seen by others.
Exactly, I like the way you think, byfaith.
And it's a good thing that the founding fathers proclaimed that "no one religion shall be made into the state religion", so that "it all remains voluntary".
There is only one kind of love, and that is voluntary love. And we can pray any time of the day, and on any day, and who will know it? No one needs to know it. I pray every day because I need help from God to guide me every day and to overcome life's obstacles with God's favor.
For all I care they can abolish National Prayer Day any time, because the Devil likes National Prayer Day. Why? Because that leaves the impression for people who don't normally pray that "praying one day out of the year is going to help".
God knows who believes in Him, so a one-time prayer by an otherwise barely believing person is not going to be honored by God anyway. Jesus knows His sheep and He is not fooled by one-time National Prayer Day. Better to abolish it, so we can "pray in secret in our closet", as byfaith said.
love, Eden
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By the way, even though the legislative and judicial branches of government were represented, the Obama Administration failed to send a representative to the event.
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That is because he is Muslim.
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Friday, May 7, 2010
To: Friends & Supporters
From: Gary L. Bauer
National Day of Prayer
Yesterday, hundreds of people, including members of Congress, met on Capitol Hill to observe the National Day of Prayer. Jim and Shirley Dobson chaired the event. We prayed for America, for each branch of government and for the American military.
The keynote address was delivered by Reverend Franklin Graham, who had been disinvited from speaking at the Pentagon, allegedly because he has on occasion been critical of Islam’s hostility to women and to freedom of religion. (His son, Captain Edward Graham, is currently serving in his fourth tour in Afghanistan.) Reverend Graham’s message was powerful and many in the room were moved to tears by his plea that America turn back to God.
By the way, even though the legislative and judicial branches of government were represented, the Obama Administration failed to send a representative to the event.
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I agree becausehelives, this is a time that the churches are really holding hands with the world on so many issues and catering.
~ better to be , rather than to seem ~
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Pray the Church awake from its slumber and get out of bed with the world.
we are living in a world where Yahshua and His true follower are being rejected on every level of societies....
True believers are drawing closer to the Lord...while the false church embraces the whole world system through evangelicalism of the world council of churches.
2 Corinthians 6
14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols (Easter and Christ-mass) ? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
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Prayer can be done with or without the government's consent.
I don't fret over "losing" a right to a National day of prayer.
It is a funny thing really, as Christ instructed to go pray in your closet where you are not seen by others.
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I think it's wonderful when we can join with millions of others to pray for our country. I would not want to see this freedom of religion destroyed by atheists.
Congress declared a National Day of Prayer in 1952. The National Day of Prayer Task Force (NDPTF), whose mission is to "publicize and preserve America's Christian heritage," launched a "Save the National Day of Prayer" campaign after Judge Barbara Crabb, a federal judge in Madison, Wis., issued a ruling declaring that the National Day of Prayer is unconstitutional.
But the bigger problem, as I see it, is that the National Day of Prayer is multifaith, embracing Islam and all.
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