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Hey, thank you, WildB, the picture above your last post of the Bronze Star with the red ribbon and the blue stripe running down the center, but without the V for valor, that's the one I got, for "exceptionally meritorious service".

But admittedly, the bronze stars with the "V" for valor were and are "the real deal"; the US Army frankly issued "too many bronze stars without the "V" for valor" in the process the US Army "diluted" the "valor" worth of the bronze star.

To be sure, even a bronze star without the "V" for valor, but for "exceptionally meritorious service", are blessed to receive, but the bronze stars with the "V" for valor belongs to the "real" American heroes.

But, WildB, the bronze star without the "V" for valor pictured in your post above this last one, that's the decoration I got on the field of combat, signed by a two-star general on the field of combat, for "exceptionally meritorious service".

Admittedly, I was not a bornagain Christian at the time and I really did not deserve it but I did get it.

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If you have it who signed it for the president?You can find the signature at the bottom of your citation that was given at the same time as the medal.

The Captain of the ship recommended mine but the recommendation had to be approved for the President by W. Graham Claytor, Jr.




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I don't need to make false claims, post silly excuses, or fear men. I'm not afraid the Muslims will come after me or my family if I post my service dates.

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You don't have to be afraid that the muslims will come after you or after your family because you have not spoken any harsh words about I*s*l*am on this Bible forum that would cause the muslims to come after you to kill you. I have , so I have to be more careful than you do. I'm actually very amazed that they have not killed Salman Rushdie yet.

Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy to the dogs, neither cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet and turn again and rend you.

But just "posting your in-service dates" on a Bible forum isn't going to make any muslims want to kill you.

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This evil, unabashed statement is clearly aimed at Eden.

1 Peter 3:16
Having a good conscience, that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed who falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.

But know this, Carol Swenson, that "with what judgment you judge, and with what measure you mete, the same shall be measured back to you":

Matthew 7:2
For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged; and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again.

Neither is the Lord slack concerning His promises ...

(Repent!)

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More tripe.

The only one you have to be afraid of is the US authorities for making FALSE claims of having medals.

Matt.7

[16] Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
[17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
[18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

[19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
[20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

You can give a drunk $5 and he will quote scripture and confess Christ.

Please stop your sillyness.

Oh by the way my medal recommendation was approved for the President by W. Graham Claytor, Jr.



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Since this is a public forum I can defend myself only to the extent that I have revealed. As for you asking me in a previous post to send the DD214 dates to you confidentially by way of a PM, after the way you have treated me on this forum I think it's better for me to guard my own confidentiality than to leave it up to you.
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I'm fully aware of Title 18's provisions. I'm not a fool. I'm a smart person, and now that I'm a bornagain Christian with the Spirit of God inside of me, I'm even smarter than I was before. Be nice.

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The ACLU and the Rutherford Institute got involved with Strandlof’s defense, claiming First Amendment rights protect his freedom to speech and expression as the lie of his background doesn’t hurt anyone as in the clear and present danger application. The government has responded to the defense arguing the Stolen Valor Act of 2005 (pdf) does not trample First Amendment rights, indicating the case will move forward.



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Hi, WildB, this is all the information that I can give on a public forum. I even hesitated to mention that I received a bronze star because that narrows the search by fanatic Moslems a lot already.

As I have said previously, both I and one of my family members have said some harsh things about I*s*l*a*m on this bbs and I don't want my family to be targeted, and Jesus told me to be "wise as serpents" and "harmless as doves" when dealing with dangerous fanatics like the Moslems. So that's all I can tell you about my military career, that I was decorated with a bronze star (without the V for valor) and that it was signed by a two-star general in the combat zone. Have a good day.

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That I don't know. It was signed in the combat zone by a two-star general. It was a bronze star (but withtout a V for valor which is a higher decoration than mine). But still worthy of respect.

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A two-star general signed the recommendation.

"full speed ahead, 30 knots, no smoke!"

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I am a bornagain Christian saved by the blood of Jesus and I'm not just a combat veteran but a combat veteran decorated with a bronze star.

So please have a little more respect for me. As Christians we should be nicer to each other than people out there in the world, but sadly that is often not the case. Stand down ...

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What SHOULD have happened is that Franklin Graham should have been allowed to pray for those in the Pentagon who wanted to be prayed for by a Protestant Christian preacher.

Then next the Catholic Christians should have been allowed to pray for those in the Pentagon who wanted to be prayed for by a Catholic Christian preacher.

Then next the Moslems should have been allowed to pray for those in the Pentagon who wanted to be prayed for by a Moslem preacher.

Then next the Ba'hai should have been allowed to pray for those in the Pentagon who wanted to be prayed for by a Ba'hai preacher.

Then next the Buddhists should have been allowed to pray for those in the Pentagon who wanted to be prayed for by a Buddhist preacher.

Then next the Hindus should have been allowed to pray for those in the Pentagon who wanted to be prayed for by a Hindu preacher.

And so on and so on ... so this could become somewhat impractical and also a waste of the Pentagon's time and the taxpayor's money, since under the Constitution, EVERY religion in the USA has a right to do "its share" of preaching to the Pentagon.

However, the reality is that probably NOT ALL of the religions in the world (I've only named the most prominent ones) would want to pray at the Pentagon, so in this case, the Moslems simply should have asked to have THEIR TURN to pray at the Pentagon too (and in that case, [all the Christians at the Pentagon should have boycotted the Moslem prayer session or for that matter the Christians should have boycotted ALL the nonChristian prayer sessions).

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Eden, I do understand and agree with what you were trying to get across.

wildb, I can respect that you are out there defending rights and freedoms, and that I don't disagree with. Just remember that love and kindness gets us further than rage ever will.

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Definition of "tripe" (second definition):

"informal, something of no value; rubbish."

I'll bet byfaith agrees with me, and probably some other members on this bbs agree with me?

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My opposition to this thread has nothing to do with the fanatic Islmaics.

I am opposed to this thread because it violates the law of the land, and the LORD told us to obey the authorities of the land:

1 Timothy 2
1 I Exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior.

Here's my problem with this thread. In 1952, probably no one was bothered by it because Christianity was definitely the MAJORITY RELIGION in the USA.

But by 2010, there are many religions in the USA and the LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONAL fact is that IF we are going to have a National Day of Prayer to "preserve and remember our Christian heritage", then LEGALLY the Congress is ALSO OBLIGATED to establish a National Day of Prayer FOR EVERY RELIGION that is now, for better or worse, IN THE USA.

And that would both be an UNPRACTICAL and UNECONOMICAL thing to do in 2010. It is therefore MORE PRACTICAL and ECONOMICAL for the tax-payors' Congress to establish NO National Days of Prayer, and to let EACH MEMBER of each religion PRAY their hearts out to God, 24/7, 365 days a week, as they wish, and LEAVE IT UP TO GOD TO HONOR WHICHEVER PRAYER HE HONORS.

That's where I am coming from, WildB, it was okay to have a National Day of Prayer from 1952 to say 1990, but now by 2010 there are too many religions that legally would have to receive a Natioinal Day of Prayer of their own, to make it either practical or economical.

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I despise the Islamics and consider Islam to be Lucifer/Satan's counter-religion to try to usurp the Lord Jesus's throne to rule over the nations from Jerusalem.

Howbeit, I have to be "wise as serpents" and "not cast my pearls before swine", so I have at the same time to be careful that I give no information away about myself that could help those low-lives to track me down and hurt my family.

So, stand down, my man. Take it easy, okay?

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I don't want to divulge that information on a public forum because both I and one of my family members have said some harsh things about I*s*l*a*m and I don't want some fanatic targeting my family. The less they know the safer it is; they have long memories and use long revenge periods to carry out their revenge.

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WildB, if it makes you feel any better, I'm a U.S. Army combat veteran.

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It's true that some members thought that Eden was a woman's name and they called me a sister instad of a brother. I really wasn't important to me at the time so I just let it go; I was more interested in the contents of the posts.

In any caase, my profile has always said that I was a male, so if any member had they done their due diligence, they would and should have known that I was a male.

The fact that some members thought that "Eden" was a female name does not excuse for failing to check my profile to make sure. I check every profile if I can't tell from the User ID itself, to see if it's a male or female.

I used the User ID "Eden" because it was easy to type for other members, and I was thinking of the garden of Eden when I chose it. And it turns out that all occurrences of "Eden" in the Bible are names for males.

But in retrospect I think that I should have said earlier on than I did that "Eden" was a brother and not a sister, eventhough my profile said I was a male. I never pretended to be a female; it's just that some members thought that "Eden is a female name", which it is not, and I just let it go because it was not important to me.

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The Constitution provides that "the government shall NOT make any one religion the State religion". That way all people are free to choose Whom they want to believe in and worship.

And I'm confident that God loves it that way too bccause He only wants people to love Him VOLUNTARILY. Only VOLUNTARY love is True Love. MANDATORY love, as is found in Islam, is abuse: let us Christians not be guilty of that kind of "love".

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The name originally referred to the "garden of Eden":

Genesis 2:8
And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Secondarily it referred to the "merchant of Eden":

Ezekiel 27:23
Haran, and Canneh, and Eden, the merchants of Sheba, Asshur, and Chilmad, were your merchants.

Thirdly, it referred to the "children of Eden who were in Telassar":

Isaiah 37:12
Have the gods of the nations delivered them which my fathers have destroyed, as Gozan, and Haran, and Rezeph, and the children of Eden which were in Telassar?

Fourthly, it referred to "the priests":

2 Chronicles 31:15
And next him were Eden, and Miniamin, and Jeshua, and Shemaiah, Amariah, and Shecaniah, in the cities of the priests, in their set office, to give to their brethren by courses, as well to the great as to the small.

"Eden", in the Bible, is always a MAN'S name.

Any other questions, WildB? Perhaps you'd like to explain why you would have the word wild in YOUR User ID?

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So if Congress in 2010 enacted a SECOND National Day of Prayer, whose mission is to "publicize and preserve America's recent Moslem heritage", would that be okay? There are MILLIONS of moslems in American nowadays, don't they deserve a National Day of Prayer too?

It is therefore better that we have NO National Day of Prayer for ANY religious group.

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In 1952, the USA was still mostly a "Christian" country, but to enact a National Day of Prayer to "publicize and preserve America's Christian heritage" is against the Constitution of the United States, whose founding fathers said that "the government shall NOT enact any one religion as the State religion".

A true Christian PRAYS EVERY DAY to His Lord and Savior anyway, so enacting a National Day of Prayer to "publicize and preserve America's Christian heritage" UNNECESSARILY RILES the other religions and UNNECESSARILY POINTS THE FINGER again at Christians (the Devil loves that!!!).

A true Christian does NOT need a National Day of Prayer; only LUKEWARM Christians may need to be reminded "once a year" that there IS a Lord and Savior in heaven.

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US Presiden Barack Obama (2nd R) and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan (L) take off their shoes as they visit the Blue Mosque with Muslim clerics Emrullah Hatipoglu (R) and Mustafa Cagrici (L) in Istanbul, Turkey, 07 April 2009. US President Barack Obama has ended his European tour by saying he is committed to opening a "new chapter in American engagement" with the Muslim world. EPA/KAYHAN OZER

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