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What's Arabic for "hacker"?
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quote:
Originally posted by Eden:
Carol Swenson wrote
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If they want you they will track you through your IP.
That's correct. If a competent authority with jurisdiction deems that a crime has been committed, the courts have ruled that Internet service providers have to provide the competent authority with the IP of that individual, as in the case of hackers, and so on.

In any case, if any competent authority with jurisdiction wants to look at my DD214, I will be happy to provide them with my US Army ID number.

Because of Carol Swenson's quote above, WildB wrote,
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I can now let it go. ED your on your own.
Thank God for that. But by the way, I'm not "on my own". Jesus is always watching out for me and is "instructing me and is "teaching me which way I should go" and is "guiding me with His eye" (Psalm 32:8). And I also have the Holy Spirit inside me. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. I'm not alone like I used to be.

But I'm thankful we can finally put this matter to rest. If any competent authority wants to review my military records, they are welcome to do so.

love, Eden

Your just going to keep pushing it aint you little boy.

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Carol Swenson wrote
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If they want you they will track you through your IP.
That's correct. If a competent authority with jurisdiction deems that a crime has been committed, the courts have ruled that Internet service providers have to provide the competent authority with the IP of that individual, as in the case of hackers, and so on.

In any case, if any competent authority with jurisdiction wants to look at my DD214, I will be happy to provide them with my US Army ID number.

Because of Carol Swenson's quote above, WildB wrote,
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I can now let it go. ED your on your own.
Thank God for that. But by the way, I'm not "on my own". Jesus is always watching out for me and is "instructing me and is "teaching me which way I should go" and is "guiding me with His eye" (Psalm 32:8). And I also have the Holy Spirit inside me. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. I'm not alone like I used to be.

But I'm thankful we can finally put this matter to rest. If any competent authority wants to review my military records, they are welcome to do so.

love, Eden

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quote:
Originally posted by Carol Swenson:
If they want you they will track you through your IP.

I can now let it go. ED your on your own.

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If they want you they will track you through your IP.
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Sigh ... WildB wrote
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{Eden}, Fess up or repent publicly that you lied about getting a Star.
WildB, do you really think that I would lie about some military medal and lose the blessings and favor of God in the process? The blessings and favor of God are worth FAR MORE to me than any human medal could ever be.

So maybe you don't know anything about the blessings and favor of God in your life, if you can think that a bornagain Christian would lie about receiving a military medal.

Because clearly, if you DID know something about the blessings and favor of God, you would know FOR SURE that NO bornagain Christian in his or her right mind would EVER contemplate trading the blessings and favor of God for a lie about a military medal.

I am a veteran myself and I understand that you are a veteran and are passionate about that. But you are carrying this medal stuff way out of proportion compared to the wonderful blessings that we have in Christ Jesus, and it is neither fair to me, nor to the other Christians on this board.

At this rate, 5 years from now you'll still be demanding to hear who issued or recommended it for the President.

I cannot reveal publicly who issued the medal for the President because that would reveal when I served in the US Army, and I'm keeping that information confidential.

1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

Philippians 3:8
I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ.

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quote:
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Originally posted by Eden:
Hey, thank you, WildB, the picture above your last post of the Bronze Star with the red ribbon and the blue stripe running down the center, but without the V for valor, that's the one I got, for "exceptionally meritorious service".

But admittedly, the bronze stars with the "V" for valor were and are "the real deal"; the US Army frankly issued "too many bronze stars without the "V" for valor" in the process the US Army "diluted" the "valor" worth of the bronze star.

To be sure, even a bronze star without the "V" for valor, but for "exceptionally meritorious service", are blessed to receive, but the bronze stars with the "V" for valor belongs to the "real" American heroes.

But, WildB, the bronze star without the "V" for valor pictured in your post above this last one, that's the decoration I got on the field of combat, signed by a two-star general on the field of combat, for "exceptionally meritorious service".

Admittedly, I was not a bornagain Christian at the time and I really did not deserve it but I did get it.

love, Eden

If you have it who signed it for the president?You can find the signature at the bottom of your citation that was given at the same time as the medal.

The Captain of the ship recommended mine but the recommendation had to be approved for the President by W. Graham Claytor, Jr.

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Title 18 § 704 covers falsely claiming military medals (to include a section specifically for fraudulently claiming a Medal of Honor).

You wonder why all the extra attention to the board, Its me.

Fess up or repent publicly that you lied about getting a Star.

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WildB, 44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

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WildB wrote to Eden and byfaith
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OK Ed and byfaith lets do it your way.

So can both of you endure pressure?

It feels more like "abuse" than "pressure".

The other day I heard Pastor Cowan say on Christian TV, "Don't kid yourself, you can get hurt in church; the very place where you'd expect to be in a safe haven, you can get hurt there".

John 9:34
And they said to him, "You were altogether born in sins, and do you teach us?" And they threw him out.

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We have drifted away from the principals God set forth in this great country. We have deluded ourselves into thinking that we could replace God’s laws with the laws of man. This has created a society where anything goes, where there is no right or wrong. My hope is that we can band together to change our country. I truly believe we can do this by getting on our knees and praying to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

My prayer is not that we will not pass laws to make abortions illegal, but that there will be no one seeking abortions.

My prayer is not that we will make pornography illegal, but that they will go out of business due to lack of business.

My prayer is not that we will pass laws regulating morality, but that the people of this great country will become great again because the word of God is written upon their hearts.

My prayer is that God will give us God fearing leaders who seek his counsel and forgiveness. That God will put these men and women into positions of leadership in our governments, our schools, our businesses, our little leagues, our civic organizations and in our churches.


(Prayer For America)

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quote:
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Originally posted by byfaith:

written by wildb- And your a nurse?
What do you mean I am a nurse? [/QB][/QUOTE]

It is very clear to ALL where you 2 stand on the National Day of Prayer. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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What does that have to do with asking me if I am a nurse?
and why are you dredging this up again? you seem to LIKE to start fights.
And the cursing? You are supposed to to be a believer, and you use CURSE words to your brother?

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[/qb][/QUOTE] written by wildb- And your a nurse? [/QB][/QUOTE]

What do you mean I am a nurse?

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Common-Eden

Lets RELAY talk.

LIAR.........

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And I will make shur You understand how much YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND.

LIAR>

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WildB wrote
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Many VETs were there kneeling in the grass at the Court House steps tossing their medals and honor before Christ in a National Day of Prayer.

But one that claims to have A Star on this board says we should not do this because the other religions are getting upset.

Actually, I don't mind if the vets want to throw their medals and honor before Christ in a National Day of Prayer ... AS LONG AS all the other religions now in this country are accorded equal rights to toss their kabooshes in honor of and before Mohammed on the steps of the courthouse, that's all I'm saying ...

The USA Government "shall not make one religion the State religion" implies that "let all come who want to".

Go, veterans, and Go US troops, I love you and thank you for your hard and dangerous work you are doing to preserve, especially, our freedom of choice, which the Taliban don't want people to have. Be blessed in Jesus, US troops, on this Memorial Day.

love, Eden

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Manny VETs were there kneeling in the grass at the Court House steps tossing their medals and honor before Christ in a National Day of Prayer.

But one that claims to have A Star on this board says we should not do this because the other religions are getting up set.

Just go back and review this thread in total.

Because Next thing that people like this will be demanding will be that Memorial Day is unconstitutional because of all them little crosses that marked the graves of OUR DEAD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS here and abroad.

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The Promise of Empowerment

1. Acts 1:8--Jesus said to His disciples, "You shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you. "

2. Luke 24:49--He promised, "You [will be] clothed with power from on high. "

3. Ephesians 3:20--God "is able to do exceeding abundantly beyond all that we ask or think, according to the power that works within us. "

The Reminder About Our Resources

When we forget our spiritual resources and rely on our own strength, we'll experience discouragement, weariness, and disillusionment. Spiritual warfare is hard and never stops. Timothy, like us all, needed to be reminded of the source of spiritual strength. Scripture records many such reminders.

1. Joshua 1:6-7--God said to Joshua, "Be strong and courageous, for you shall give this people possession of the land which I swore to their fathers to give them. Only be strong and very courageous; be careful to do according to all the law which Moses My servant commanded you; do not turn from it to the right or to the left, so that you may have success wherever you go. "

2. 1 Chronicles 22:13--David said to his son Solomon, "You shall prosper, if you are careful to observe the statutes and the ordinances which the Lord commanded Moses concerning Israel. Be strong and courageous, do not fear nor be dismayed. "

3. 1 Corinthians 16:13--Paul exhorted the Corinthians to "be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. "

4. Galatians 4:19--Paul spoke to the Galatians as those "with whom I am again in labor until Christ is formed in you. " He wanted them to be fully like Christ: strong, mature, and powerful (cf. Eph. 4:13) .

5. Colossians 1:28--Paul proclaimed Christ, "admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, that we may present every man complete in Christ. " To be complete in Christ is to be strong spiritually.

6. Ephesians 6:10--Believers are to "be strong in the Lord, and in the strength of His might. "

A Soldier (2 Timothy 2:3-4)

"Suffer hardship with me, as a good soldier of Christ Jesus. No soldier in active service entangles himself in the affairs of everyday life, so that he may please the one who enlisted him as a soldier. "

1. He knows he's at war

Paul likened the Christian to a soldier. That implies we are at war--a picture used elsewhere in Scripture.

a) Ephesians 6:11-12--"Put on the full armor of God, that you may be able to stand firm against the schemes of the devil. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. "

b) 2 Corinthians 10:3-5--"Though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh, for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses. We are destroying speculations and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God, and we are taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ. "

Second Timothy 2:3 says we are to be "good" (Gk. , kalos) soldiers. We are not to be soldiers simply in terms of function and duty--we are to be excellent, noble, and heroic soldiers. Those are the kind of soldiers who earn medals of valor and honor.

The Real War

It's often hard for us as Christians in the United States of America to remember we are at war. We live in a society that, while philosophically hostile to Christianity, has not been hostile legally or politically. That's unlike other countries in the world where the battlelines are more clearly drawn. There Christians have often been required to make extreme sacrifices in every area of life. Here heroism for Christ's cause is not thrust upon us, so we can forget we are warriors. Though our warfare may not seem evident, the battle is all around us.

• Against Demons

I will never forget a battle with a demon-possessed girl one night at church. She was in one of the rooms of the church kicking, screaming, and throwing furniture around. When I walked into the room, she said, "Don't let him in!" But the voice that said that wasn't her own. My first response was, "Fine, I'm leaving!" But I realized that if the demons didn't like me, it was because I was on God's side. I went in and the girl attacked me, kicking me in the shins so violently I began to bleed. In the power of God several of us spent hours there until she confessed her sin and God, in His grace, purified her. As I left that night I realized for the first time the extent of our warfare against demons.

• The War against Unbelief

A number of years ago a UCLA philosophy professor who was Jewish expressed a desire to know Christ. I presented the gospel to him and met with him early in the morning for six months. After that time he told me he didn't want to meet with me anymore. He went on to attend a liberal seminary, and became an Episcopalian rector. I don't know his present spiritual state--but he's not where I intended him to be. Our warfare is for the hearts, minds, and souls of people. It's often most evident in our discipling relationships because that's where unbelief becomes most evident.

• Against Sin

In the past I have sought out wayward husbands from places they should not have been. Our church has experienced lawsuits, threats, and accusations. Those kinds of experiences affirm that as Christians we are at war against sin.

First Thessalonians 4:11 says "to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life and attend to your own business. " There are quiet times in the Christian life, but they seem to be more the exception than the rule. They give us time to catch our breath before the next wave of battle hits, for the battle continues to rage.

2. He knows he must suffer hardship

In 2 Timothy 2:3 the Greek word translated "suffer hardship with" (sunkakopath[ma]eson) could also be translated "endure affliction together," "take your share of suffering," or "take your share of rough treatment. " Too often Christianity is presented to non-believers as the cure to all anxieties, difficulties, and trials. That results in a lot of false disciples. Too few present the gospel by saying, "Come to Christ, pick up your armor, and join us in a lifelong struggle against the world, the flesh, and the devil. "

3. He knows he's on active duty

Christians are "in active service" (v. 4) . The Christian army does not have any members on rest and recreation. All are on the front lines of an active battle. We all suffer together.

Some think they can be Christians but not fight as Christian soldiers. They're only deceiving themselves--we're on the front line. Such Christians are asleep on the firing line--a very dangerous position to be in.

4. He knows he must avoid entanglements

The Greek word translated "entangles" (Gk. , emplek[ma]o) in verse 4 means "to interweave. " A believer's life is not to be wrapped up in the non-essentials of this life. Because we live on the battlefront, all things are to be subservient to winning the battle.

Luke 9 gives three examples of people entangled in the things of this life and who thus could not follow our Lord. One was concerned about his personal comfort (vv. 57-58) . Another wanted his inheritance first (vv. 59-60) . The third was unwilling to give himself wholeheartedly to Jesus as Lord (vv. 61-62) . Their lives were interweaved with non-essentials.

No Time-Outs

A soldier on active duty is always a soldier. He can't call a "time-out" in the middle of battle. The same is true of Christians. Like soldiers in the field must avoid anything that would hamper us in battle. We're to be so consumed with our duties that though the enticements of the world pass by, we are oblivious to them.

5. He seeks to please his commander

A soldier desires to "please the one who enlisted him as a soldier" (2 Tim. 2:4) . That refers to a soldier's commander. A Christian's commander is Jesus Christ. That's whom we endeavour to please.

As Christian soldiers we're to serve our Lord "with all humility" (Acts 20:19) . With that kind of attitude, each of us should be able to say, "I do not consider my life of any account as dear to myself, in order that I may finish my course, and the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus" (v. 24) . Our Lord is the preeminent example of one about whom the Father could say, "[With Him] I am well pleased" (Matt. 3:17) . The greatest joy of a Christian will be to hear, "Well done, good and faithful soldier" (cf. Matt. 25:21, 23) . Our instinctive response to our Lord ought to be respect and obedience from the heart.

John MacArthur
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Eden says:
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But by 2010, there are many religions in the USA and the LEGAL and CONSTITUTIONAL fact is that IF we are going to have a National Day of Prayer to "preserve and remember our Christian heritage", then LEGALLY the Congress is ALSO OBLIGATED to establish a National Day of Prayer FOR EVERY RELIGION that is now, for better or worse, IN THE USA.
What does God say?

TAKE A STAND FOR CHRIST!


2 Chronicles 36:11 - 17 (NLT)

11Zedekiah was twenty-one years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem eleven years.

12He did what was evil in the sight of the LORD his God, and he refused to humble himself when the prophet Jeremiah spoke to him directly from the LORD.

13He also rebelled against King Nebuchadnezzar, even though he had taken an oath of loyalty in God’s name. Zedekiah was a hard and stubborn man, refusing to turn to the LORD, the God of Israel.

14Likewise, all the leaders of the priests and the people became more and more unfaithful. They followed all the pagan practices of the surrounding nations, desecrating the Temple of the LORD that had been consecrated in Jerusalem.

15The LORD, the God of their ancestors, repeatedly sent his prophets to warn them, for he had compassion on his people and his Temple.

16But the people mocked these messengers of God and despised their words. They scoffed at the prophets until the LORD’s anger could no longer be restrained and nothing could be done.

17So the LORD brought the king of Babylon against them. The Babylonians killed Judah’s young men, even chasing after them into the Temple. They had no pity on the people, killing both young men and young women, the old and the infirm. God handed all of them over to Nebuchadnezzar.

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Born Again (eden)

You have not answered yet?

IF you have a star who authorized it for the president?

A first name, last name ?

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AMEN!

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And All the People said AMEN!

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AMEN!
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all I want to hear is ...'Well done, good and faithful servant!...from the master of my soul...

As the Apostle Paul neared his journey’s end he expressed his faith in Christ, and the assurance of his salvation in 2TI 4:8. After giving his personal testimony he said, "Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing."

This crown of righteousness is not obtained without a life long effort, striving lawfully as a soldier of the cross. "Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully," 2TI 2:3.

The Apostle Paul’s confidence in his obtaining his crown of righteousness was supported by his testimony as a good solider of the cross. When he spoke of his departure, and assurance of receiving the crown, he testified that he was ready "…to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith."

What is this crown of righteousness referred to in our text? This word "righteousness" comes from the Greek word "dikaiosune" which would mean "Integrity, virtue, purity of life, rightness, correctness of thinking, feeling, and acting--or the doctrine concerning the way in which man may attain a state approved of God."

I must hasten to point out that the God-Man, Jesus Christ in our human nature, is the only One who ever lived a perfect righteous life, therefore neither the Apostle Paul, nor any man can claim any thing we do has any merit. However, our evidence that Christ has been formed in us, is that we walk in that same Spirit of Christ.

Our Saviour made this point clear as He spoke of the Day of Judgment, explaining on what basis He shall separate the sheep from the goats, issuing the "crown of righteousness" unto His sheep!

"Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: "For [or because] I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me," MAT 25:34-36.

This spirit of Christ producing a life of righteousness, was not claimed in Christ’s illustration of the Judgment Day as being meritorious, but it is the evidence of Christ’s righteousness imputed, and imparted to us.

See how those who received this crown of righteousness responded as Christ crowned them—and the dialog that followed. MAT 25:37-40 says, "Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me."

Certainly no man shall receive this crown of righteousness for any merit in what we have done outside the perfect obedience of Christ being imputed unto us, but our labour of love is our evidence that we have a crown of righteousness laid up for us. "Wherefore...give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall: For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ," 2PE 1:10-11.

Beloved, the blood of souls stains so deep—therefore, I must be faithful to your soul. How can you know that there is a "crown of righteousness" laid up for you? See what Scriptures teach whereby we may know!

"And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked," 1JO 2:3-6. Amen.

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I don't see the humor in mocking scripture or belittling the symbol of Israel.

Your 'song and dance' is nothing like that of King David's.

And David danced before the LORD with all his might, wearing a priestly garment.
(2 Samuel 6:14 NLT)

No, for you there are two common ways the phrase "song and dance" is used:

1. Give someone a "song and dance," meaning you give someone a weak excuse.

2. Do your usual "song and dance," meaning you do your usual nonsense.

These are your 'song and dance' routine.

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Carol Swenson wrote to Eden
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You gave yourself the Star Of David?
Actually, a lot of Christian people probably don't realize that the Star of David IS NOT IN THE BIBLE but was attached to the Jews in the 17th century A.D.

Here's what the Internet says about the Star of David:

"The Star of David, like the Pentagram or the Swastika, was originally a magical protective symbol and was only later associated with the Jews.

"It didn't become generally associated with the Jews until the 17th century when the Jewish quarter of Vienna was formally distinguished from the rest of the city by a boundary stone having a hexagram on one side and a cross on the other.

"It didn't become internationally associated until it was adopted as the symbol of the Zionist movement after the Dreyfus affair in France in the 19th century.

"With the establishment of the state of Israel in 1948 the Star of David on the Flag of Israel has also become a symbol of Israel and has become associated with the Zionist movement."

(end of quote from the Internet)

A search for "Star of David" in the King James (KJV) turned up this:

No results found.
No results were found for star of David in the version: King James Version.

The Star of David does not exist in the Bible. But actually when I said that I had received "the Star of David" in reply to your query, in my paraphrase, "what color is the star that you gave yourself this time", I said, "the Star of David" because I "sing and dance like David before the LORD". In other words, it was like having "the Star of David" singing in my mouth and dancing in my legs. But it's not a Biblical thing ...

To repeat what Carol Swenson wrote to Eden
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You gave yourself the Star Of David?
It's not a Bible symbol nor a military symbol; it's a secular symbol.

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You gave yourself the Star Of David?
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And what color is the star that you gave to yourself this time?
The Star of David.

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And what color is the star that you gave to yourself this time?
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I wonder if he does his song and dance routine other places too?
No, I don't but I probably could contribute to other Christian Bible forums as well. But thus far I have mostly contributed only to this Christian Bible forum.

But, as for his "song and dance", David sang and danced befor the LORD, so I do too:

2 Samuel 6:14-15
14 And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

15 So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the LORD with shouting and with the sound of the trumpet.

To repeat what Carol Swenson wrote about Eden
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I wonder if he does his song and dance routine other places too?
No, I'm only "singing and dancing" here at this time. But I greatly appreciate that you can see, unlike , that my "song and dance" before God is good; thank you, thank you very much.

1 Chronicles 15
29 And it came to pass, as the ark of the covenant of the LORD came to the city of David, that Michal, the daughter of Saul, looking out from a window, saw King David dancing and playing; and she despised him in her heart.

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Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots?

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I wonder if he does his song and dance routine other places too?
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I think we have another wanna be glory hound!

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Eden had written:
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(At least the Topic has been) long playing time at the top of the charts
long playing time at the top of the charts.

Carol Swenson wrote back
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You would think that. The Christian BBS is not a show.
It may not be a show for us Christians who are already saved in the church, but Christian Bible forums are quite a show for those who are UNSAVED and who click on these Bible forums on the Internet "for entertainment", and hopefully "our show will go on long enough and be good enough and 'entertaining' enough to keep drawing them to come back to our Bible forum until they eventually get saved".

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Eden posted May 12, 2010 16:26
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I am a bornagain Christian saved by the blood of Jesus and I'm not just a combat veteran but a combat veteran decorated with a bronze star.
You are not a decorated combat veteran.

Eden posted May 19, 2010 14:43
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Do you really think that I, as a bornagain Christian, would think it that it was worthwhile to forfeit the blessings and favor of God by telling the world on this bbs that I am a decorated combat veteran? The blessings and favor of God are worth much more to me than the momentary convenience of telling a lie, my Christian friend.
That is exactly what you DID tell the world on this BBS. At least now you admit it was a lie.

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both you and Carol Swenson should be happy that your Topic got some long playing time at the top of the charts ...
Only you would think that. The Christian BBS is not a show.
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Very nice for an elder bornagain Christian man ...

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I thought so. You liar. Maybe I can have one of my military buds give you the answer that you can't find on Google.

IF you have a star who authorized it for the president?

A first name, last name?

I elect not to divulge any personal data on a public forum, not even on a Christian public forum. I don't want to narrow the search for the Mosteks.

But in any case, both you and Carol Swenson should be happy that your Topic got some long playing time at the top of the charts ...

Philippians 1:18
What then? Notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence or in truth, Christ is being preached; and therein I do rejoice, yes, and I will rejoice.

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quote:
Originally posted by Eden:
Carol Swenson wrote
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State the facts, clear and true. If you don't want to give out personal information then you shouldn't have made the claims in the first place. As it stands now, you look like a liar.
Do you really think that I, as a bornagain Christian, would think it that it was worthwhile to forfeit the blessings and favor of God by telling the world on this bbs that I am a decorated combat veteran? The blessings and favor of God are worth much more to me than the momentary convenience of telling a lie, my Christian friend.

love, Eden

Hockey puck to the shin.

I thought so. You liar. Maybe I can have one of my military buds give you the answer that you can't find on Google.

IF you have a star who authorized it for the president?

A first name, last name ?

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Carol Swenson wrote
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State the facts, clear and true. If you don't want to give out personal information then you shouldn't have made the claims in the first place. As it stands now, you look like a liar.
Do you really think that I, as a bornagain Christian, would think it that it was worthwhile to forfeit the blessings and favor of God by telling the world on this bbs that I am a decorated combat veteran? The blessings and favor of God are worth much more to me than the momentary convenience of telling a lie, my Christian friend.

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I doubt that WildB will be fooled by such an obvious logic snag.

Whatever you've posted in the past, and whatever WildB is capable of, have nothing to do with the value of your current post.

Why claim to be a combat vet with a medal, but then absolutely refuse to verify it in anyway? Whatever respect you hoped to gain by claiming those things has instead turned to disrespect because of your refusal to verify the claims. Any other vet would simply answer the questions. State the facts, clear and true. If you don't want to give out personal information then you shouldn't have made the claims in the first place. As it stands now, you look like a liar.

You don't care about the National Day of Prayer because you don't really understand what it is, and the millions of people who do care don't matter to you. And you don't verify your military claims because you don't have any verification, and all of the real vets who are offended don't matter to you. You don't seem to even care about scripture because you quote it out of context and then try to twist it into meaning what you want it to. As long as you can say whatever you happen to feel like in safe secrecy and comfort, that's all you care about.

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WEAK......
You're right, it was a weak hit and not a homerun ... I've have hit some homeruns however in some of my posts, but only Jesus is THE Homerun Leader. What's your homerun average, better than mine?

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quote:
Originally posted by Eden:
Eden had quoted the verse:
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Numbers 12:2
And they said, "Has the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? Has He not also spoken by us?" And the LORD heard it.

And Carol Swenson answered:
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And the Lord was angry. Miriam got leprosy for saying that.

Better choose a different verse to make your point.

In the case of the Old Testament, Moses was indeed the only person to be God's mouthpiece, so Miriam and Aaron were out of line.

But in the New Testament, ALL bornagain Christians are a mouthpiece of God with the help of the Holy Spirit that is in each bornagain believer.

So it was with the New Testament context in mind that I quoted Numbers 12:2, because in New Testament times, God speaks through every believer and no longer "just by Moses" or "just by WildB and Carol Swenson" (by whom God also speaks of course, but not exclusively as it was in Moses's time.

Hence, the use of the Numbers 12:2; has the LORD only spoken by WildB and Carol Swenson? Indeed not.

love, Eden

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1Tim.1


6] From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
[7] Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
[8] But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
[9] Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
[10] For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;

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I thought so. You liar. Maybe I can have one of my military buds give you the answer that you can't find on Google.

IF you have a star who authorized it for the president?

A first name, last name ?

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Of course not. So why not use a New Testament verse to express New Testament truth instead of the Old Testament verse "Has He not also spoken by us?" where God becomes angry and punishes Miriam for saying it? Then you have to twist it to make it mean what you want.
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Eden had quoted the verse:
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Numbers 12:2
And they said, "Has the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? Has He not also spoken by us?" And the LORD heard it.

And Carol Swenson answered:
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And the Lord was angry. Miriam got leprosy for saying that.

Better choose a different verse to make your point.

In the case of the Old Testament, Moses was indeed the only person to be God's mouthpiece, so Miriam and Aaron were out of line.

But in the New Testament, ALL bornagain Christians are a mouthpiece of God with the help of the Holy Spirit that is in each bornagain believer.

So it was with the New Testament context in mind that I quoted Numbers 12:2, because in New Testament times, God speaks through every believer and no longer "just by Moses" or "just by WildB and Carol Swenson" (by whom God also speaks of course, but not exclusively as it was in Moses's time.

Hence, the use of the Numbers 12:2; has the LORD only spoken by WildB and Carol Swenson? Indeed not.

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quote:
Numbers 12:2
And they said, Has the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? Has He not also spoken by us?" And the LORD heard it.

And the Lord was angry. Miriam got leprosy for saying that.

Better choose a different verse to make your point.

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You liar.
Numbers 12:2
And they said, Has the LORD indeed spoken only by Moses? Has He not also spoken by us?" And the LORD heard it.

Genesis 31:53
(May) the God of Abraham, and the God of Nahor, the God of their father, judge between us.

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Well, a national day of thanksgiving is not a religious holiday, so I'm okay with that. There is NO provision in the Constitution prohiting Congress from establishing a "national day of thanksgiving".

Besides, the turkey industry has a VERY powerful LOBBY in Washington, D.C., so "who can be against them"? Gobble? Gobble? Gobble? It is not in the Bible and not in the Qu'ran and not in the Bhagavad Gita, so "we should be okay" with that "national day of thanksgiving".

Are we going through all the USA national holidays now???

(Somewhere ..., way back in my mind ..., 'my old man' of Romans 6:6 is saying, "I'm surprised he has not called me a 'commie' yet.")

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I think my baseball fan followers know that I hit a triple play when I said some aweful things against Lucifer's I*s*l*a*m and they understand my need NOT TO BE STUPID and to PROTECT MY FAMILY from any fanatical harm. The Lord made me SMARTER than I was before I was saved, WildB, not STUPIDER. "Hello, Living Jesus up in heaven? Yes, I ..."

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WildB, I thought once again about revealing who authorized my bronze star without the V for valor for the President, but I think that confidential data is better guarded by me than to put it in your hands. I can't help you there because the Lord Jesus told me to be "wise as serpents" and "harmless as doves", and to "not cast my pearls before swine" UNNECESSARILY.

I'm not saying YOU are a swine, WilB (you are saved by the blood of Jesus, who can speak a word against you?), I'm saying some of the fanatical I*s*l*a*mics (or mosteks as you derogatorily call them) are swine, so I can "put lipstick on the swine according to Sarah Palin, but not pearls according to Jesus".

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My brother in Christ WildB wrote about me:
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Well according to Born Again (eden)we should also get rid or at least rename GOOD FRIDAY?

It's just the same Christian **** as the national day of prayer.

Actually I don't care about "Good Friday" because it's only a Catholic tradition and "Good Friday" is NOT in the Bible and Good Friday is NOT a designation enacted by Congress like the National Day of Prayer, so I don't care about Good Friday, generally.

However, it cannot hurt that the Catholics called it "Good Friday":

John 19:31
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day (for that sabbath day was an high day), besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.

WildB, I'm NOt objecting to the Catholic church having its "Good Friday Day", I'm only objecting to Congress enacting a "National Day of Prayer" since the Constitution says, in my words, that "no one relgion shall be enacted as the state religion", and as a result, each citizen of the USA is "free to choose whatever religion he or she thinks is the true one."

But the Catholic church is not the Congress. The Catholic church can enact its own holy days or holidays, of course, just as Islam can and Hinduism and Ba'hai can.

To repeat what my brother in Christ WildB wrote
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Well according to Born Again (eden)we should also get rid or at least rename GOOD FRIDAY?
I have never said that, WildB, and you should not write that statement in such a way to make people "think" that I had said anything like that". God is watching your (and my) integrity level, WildB.

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