Christian Message Boards: Fred Phelps and The Westboro Baptist Church

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Posted by Keeping Him Close (Member # 3843) on :

I am on the fence about this.

I am on side with thier position about it not being ok to be gay.

I am struggling with the context of thier position that God Hates people and thier signs that say "Thank God for 9/11" and Thank God for IEDs . Thier website God Hates Fags and Priest Rape Boys are means of getting thier word across. They quote the Bible and can back up what they believe with scripture. I am however not in agreement with thier full frontal attack on people such as The Amish girls funerals saying that they deserved to die and indicating that they were in hell.

In a manor of respect and civil behaviour, may I please hear from others and thier feelings about the position of Mr. Phelps and His Church? I would like to keep this discussion open as I am torn about the teachings.

Thank you

Posted by TEXASGRANDMA (Member # 847) on :

I have issues with their site. God hates sin but I don't believe hates people. John 3:16,17. I believe they are doing the letter of the law without love for God and their fellow mankind. We should not excuse sin but we should not hate sinners.
betty

Posted by Caretaker (Member # 36) on :

Fred Phelps is an apostle of hate and his family compound home to the cult of the Westboro Baptist Church.

http://cjonline.com/webindepth/phelps/

A Son's Perspective on Fred Phelps

What is he like? Well, it's been 19 years since I left home, but his behavior still appears to be the same. He considers his environment to be against him without admitting, acknowledging or taking responsibility for how he contributes to that. He likes to show himself as being moral, pro-family, pro-Bible, but his actions just don't add up to that. I believe in God and the Bible, and my father's behavior doesn't fit the description of behavior that would show in the life of one who loves God; behavior characteristics such as Love, Joy, Peace, Longsuffering, Kindness, Goodness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, Self-control. Instead, my father's behavior characterizes, I believe, Hate, Outbursts of Wrath, Contention, Jealousy, Vengefulness, Misery, Harshness, and Selfish ambition. He mis-states the truth about his own behavior, about others, about the Bible, with apparent ease and regularity. He behaves with a viciousness the likes of which I have never seen. He accepts no genuine accountability in his life and is subject to no one. His lifestyle betrays the sacred trust of what a pastor, husband, father and grandfather should be. I suppose if a comparison were made between the life of Jesus Christ and my father, there would not be much to compare.

I also realize that my father is a very unstable person who is determined to hurt people. And because he is so bound to be hateful and hurtful, and because he's so untrustworthy, I believe it's a good idea to respond to him with caution much like the caution used when dealing with a rattlesnake or a mad dog. You see, the causes that he crusades for, including the Bible, are not the issue here. He simply wants to hate and to have a forum for his hate. If the causes he focuses on were the issue, that is, if they really meant something to him in his heart and he meant for the things he does to be for the good, his behavior would not be what it is. He would not betray his message with his behavior. But, when he needs to, to vent his hate, he readily goes outside the bounds of any previously stated 'value' or 'cause' he may have supported. He experiences no moral dilemma when it comes to doing what he wants to do. If it weren't the homosexuals, it would be something else.