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Michael Harrison
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God told Moses to lift up His rod and stretch forth his hands. He was allowed to participate, but God did the doing.
Now, you have people out there who would go lift up their hands, and stretch forth the rod expecting God to be in it when they never heard a thing. This is leading God. It is a work of the flesh. Therefore, much takes place similar to this where the believer thinks that they are accomplishing something for God. This is a work of 'wood, hay and stubble.'
So that is when this scripture comes into play, "Be Still, and Know - that I am God." This is where He wants everyone to start. When what you are doing is of Him, you will be blessed in it. God allows us a 'personal' relationship!
"And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest."(Heb 8:11)
Until a person comes to this stillness, to know Him this way, they labor in vain. ![[happyhappy]](graemlins/happyhappy.gif)
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Michael Harrison
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To just "have" them is like keeping them to ourselves.
'To have'. God said "I Am." He is Being. We are therefore having. We each 'have' by virtue of His being, and the fact that He is to us what we need, all that we need. In fact that is one of His names (or titles). I am not alone in having. But I cannot 'do' what I have by His nature. That is purely the providence of God, which I cannot attain to. But I can have it imparted to me by faith! That Is the Love of God towards us.
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Michael Harrison
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Yes brother! And He has given us the simple part. And it goes with the passage, "Say to youself that you are an unprofitable servant," meaning that what you do adds nothing to Him, but releases Him. You are not doing the essential part, but rather cooperating with Him in what He is doing. That is our blessing to be able to participate with Him, but He is the doer.
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becauseHElives
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Michael Harrison ....
Let there be light!
and the light obeyed, it did what he commanded.
God said to Moses, “Lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thine hand over the sea and divide it."
and Moses did what he was commanded...and Yahweh divided the waters.
Michael Yahweh always does His part, but with Yahweh's dealings with man He always gives man a small part to do, an act of some kind to show mans obedience to Yhaweh.
We have, only in direct relation to how we obey, do what He commands us to do.
Peter was having the experience of walking on water only because he did what he was told...
get out of the boat and come to me .... this was having because he was doing
the man or woman that says they have and are not doing ... Yahweh calls them lairs
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Strive to enter in at the strait gate:for many, I say unto you will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. ( Luke 13:24 )
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Isaiah
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Sorry -was referring to Michael's post, as he, if I understood correctly, was saying that we can not make ourselves perfect.
However...
Those to whom God gives gifts by his spirit should definitely use them. There is a difference between our natural abilities and gifts of the spirit, but we can use our natural abilities in addition to spiritual gifts, as God does want us to be creative -to go above and beyond the law in well-doing.
Even so, by his spirit God also acts through us -even accomplishing things we do not fully understand -coordinating the actions of all those to whom he has given his spirit, and even sometimes all others -to the ends he decreed from the beginning.
Also..generally speaking...
Not all who believe they have God's spirit actually do -so we should be certain we understand correctly.
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Carol Swenson
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Hi Isaiah,
I was thinking more in terms of sharing our spiritual gifts with others. The Holy Spirit gives each of us a gift, something we can do to serve others for the good of the church, the body of Christ. Different people have different abilities. And I was thinking that we cannot share these gifts with one another without "doing". To just "have" them is like keeping them to ourselves. It reminds me of the parable of the talents where one man hid his in the ground to keep it safe, and the Lord was displeased. It's an interesting play on words that in English the word "talents" can mean skills.
Temptation and sin are important topics, but "Let there be light" is, to me, more about the good things we can do for others.
I agree that we must be willingly submitted to His will both to resist temptation, and to do the good deeds He prepared for us to do.
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Isaiah
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ABSOLUTELY TRUE -and not in opposition to what I was saying -we can not make ourselves perfect -but we have to do other-than-imperfect things -if we do not put forth effort, God will not waste his time.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
Rom 7:21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
Rom 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Here we see a man striving to overcome sin as he should and certainly continued to do -but IN VAIN WITHOUT GOD!
A man should put forth all the effort he can to not sin and be perfect -yet it would be in vain if not for God showing him what needed to be changed, and making him able to change it! man's effort alone can't accomplish it -but God will not accomplish it in a man who puts forth no effort!
Your point is indeed valid -all glory and honor to God.
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Carol Swenson
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You have a Bible because other people did the work of putting it all together, and later translating it into English. You're writing on this BBS because David did the work of creating it. You only "have" because other people "do". And we only enjoy your company here because you "do" the work of writing to us.
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Michael Harrison
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Exo 14:13 And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD…
Exo 14:14 The LORD shall fight for you, and ye shall hold your peace.
Exo 14:16 But lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thine hand over the sea, and divide it: and the children of Israel shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea.
Did Moses part the Red Sea?
God said to Moses, “Lift thou up thy rod, and stretch out thine hand over the sea and divide it."
Did Moses divide the sea? He was commanded to "Lift up thy rod and hand and 'part' the sea. But did Moses 'part' the sea?
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light:
….and there was light.
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“Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.”( Mat 5:48 )
And He who said “Let there be light,” said be ye perfect! Who makes one perfect, and how, but by His Word? Then you don’t ‘do’ it. Can you make light? Can you make it to perfection? But if He says it, will you argue with Him that it is not so? Tell Him “Bah humbug, there is no light.” Will it be true?
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.
I live by the word of God. Notice that I did not say that I lived by doing the word of God. The Word of God Speaks to the happening thereof. It is not by my doing, but by my believing what He says. Therefore it is by my having, which is the definition of Grace.
Amen!
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