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antitox
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In your service to God you will find people who are controlling and self-serving in churches. This isn't uncommon. They will be found in ministries like Bible studies because they want attention and authority. These people are the last folks anyone would want to have as a leader because they don't know how to lead properly or be truly humble.
I hope that some of the group members have gone to the pastor to let him know that these women are causing problems for the group.
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I've prayed and prayed about this for the last couple of days. I feel strongly that this is the church I was called to. As far as the problem with the small group of ladies, my pastor is now involved and he is seeking guidance through Our Lord Jesus as well, to handle this situation that has caused this problem in the church. I was reading some posts earlier today and then went to my bible and found some peace about what was going on.
Thank you all for your replies and concerns. You have truely made me feel welcomed here.
God Bless you all.
Sherry
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SharingTheGoodNews
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Welcome! NewChristian.
When one questions and observes such behavior, that could be your signal right there. I too experienced such a thing in a Church. I prayed for guidance and I was led away and never regretted it. Please do the same and pray and ask for his Holy Spirit to help. Romans 12:12" Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. He is there with you. Here is some advice that helped me along with Prayer.
Jesus told his disciples: “But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. 27Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.
(John 14:26, 27)
Paul wrote to the Corinthians: “Now I exhort you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fitly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.”—1 Corinthians 1:10.
Every Christian needs to use their “clear thinking faculties” in a humble way. Paul writes: “1As a prisoner for the Lord, then, I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4There is one body and one Spirit--just as you were called to one hope when you were called-- 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
.”—Ephesians 4:1-6.
Please keep us up to date. We care for you.
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heavenbound01
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I know you feel hurt by some of these women,but everyone who says lord,lord is not going to heaven. please dont let the devil discourage your faith in god. beccause the devil knows that you are a new christian,and he will do everything in his power to turn you around to the way you were before accepting christ. if you dont feel comfortable in that church, then find one you are comfortable in. the only real advice i can give you is to pray for them,that god''s will be done..
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NewChristian
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I have no doubt in my mind that the Church I attend is a very good church. Like I said, it's just a handful of women that caused this problem. These few women think that if they aren't the persons that are in control of everything, then things that are done aren't of God. One of these women actually blamed another person for me not attending a Women's meeting at the church stating that I should be there instead of some bible study group that isn't of God. How do I get past the hurt that I feel right now?
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Hello NewChristian,
Welcome to the Christian BBS! First thing I would do if I where you is read the below free online booklet and make sure the Church your are going to is not a cult. Just because they say they are a Christian Church, does not mean they are.
How To Identify a Dangerous Religious Group
http://www.gospelcom.net/rbc/ds/q1101/
How To Recognize A Good Church
http://www.gospelcom.net/rbc/ds/rd951/rd951.html
More good articles:
http://www13.brinkster.com/exposed/
http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/tlamb/Index.htm
http://www.glinx.com/~neila/open.html
I believe if your group is following the teaching of the Bible, then your group is more a Church then the building and the institution you are attending. A lot of so called Churches these days, are just institutions and out to see how big of an empire that can build for themselves. Beware of this! They may lose people if they actually learn what the bible is all about, which is Jesus Christ and following Him and Him alone. We are not to worship a building or a pastor , but Jesus Christ only. If your Church is not preaching Jesus Christ and him crucified all the time, then I would suggest you find a new Church. Just a warning, as I see more and more of this happening.
Another good website:
Lost in Church?
http://www.heargoodnews.org/lostinchurch.html
Also this is a very interesting article:
CHURCH BUILDING OR HOME CHURCH
The Bible tells us that we are to come together as believers. Hebrews 10:23-25 Let us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for He who promised is faithful; and let us consider how to stimulate one another to love and good deed, not forsaking our own assembling together (as the habit of some) but encouraging one another; and the more, as you see the day drawing near. We have come to believe that bigger is better.
Matthew 18:20 states: "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, there I am in their midst."
The new testament church met from house to house.
Acts 2:46-47 quotes: "And day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart, praising God and having favor with all people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved.
Acts2:20 reads: "And I did not shrink from declaring to you anything that was profitable, and teaching you publicly and from house to house.
In the large congregation there is no personal contact. There are many hurting and lonely people sitting in pews right now and their needs are not being met. Some have the idea that going to a building where people meet is a church, simply because it hangs a sign outside calling itself a church.
The church is not a building. It is all born again believers.
Christ in you, Jesus with skin on. Not every church that bears the name is the true church. We all know people who attend church regularly, yet the rest of the week we would hardly know that they are even a Christian. All the joy and Bible study and praising God is left behind after the sermon is over.The sermon is delivered by a preacher with an audience. It is all a one way street. There is no interaction.
Can you imagine someone interrupting to ask a question or offer an opinion or to express an immediate need?
Some have even been isolated by the so called church because they differ in their beliefs, or they don't look right or they are poor. This is done in the name of unity.
I was recently asked to attend a prayer meeting with someone and he said they would accept me because I was with him. (I worship on a different day.) I don't believe that I want to be apart of a group where you have to be with someone in order to be accepted. We of the true churchof God are all one body with many members.
Romans 12:5 says: "So we, who are many, are one body in Christ, and individually members of one another."
These same people were even embarrassed to pray at a restaurant before their meal after their meeting. God's people should be welcome anywhere in the church because of who they are, a child of the King. God's true church will keep the commandments of God. In the home church, groups are small and intimate. Everyone knows the others needs, strengths, and gifts. Everyone has a part in the meeting, and Bible study is not just one way. Questions and opinions can be given freely.Searching of the scriptures and use of the concordance is readily available. Prayer is offered by everyone in one accord. Everyone is welcome regardless of how they look or talk or believe.There is no need of a formal preacher in a home church.
I Peter 2:5 states: "You also, a living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable o God through Jesus Christ." I Peter 2:9 proclaims: "But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God's own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of Him who has called you of darkness into His marvelously light." Revelation 1:6 says: "And He has made us to be a kingdom, priest to his God and Father; to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever."
The home church is a body of believers who have many gifts. Some to teach, some who have the gift of mercy, some who know how to put our web pages together, some to give out books, some to do outreach and some even send cards of encouragement and visit the sick. Everyone has a gift and it can be utilized in a small group.
I Corinthians 14:26 reads: "What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification."
Within the traditional church there is a need to put most of the finances into the buildings and the maintaining of them. There are also pastors salaries and the rest of the staff as well. In the home church the finances can be spent on outreach as well as helping those in need. In our groups we have a food ministry. We believe in a practical way of reaching people for Christ. We also have a lending library as well as giving free books. There is no building, pastor or utilities to pay. All the money goes for God's work.When we do something for someone else, it is to be in secret so the recipient will be able to thank God. God will reward the giver.
Matthew 6:3-4 states: "But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing that your alms may be in secret; and Your Father who sees in secret will repay you."
I recall a deacon who made a young woman stand before the congregation to show her new false teeth after they footed the bill.In the large traditional church you can get lost if you want, or even if you don't want to. You can feed on milk as a babe in Christ the rest of your life listening to sermon after sermon and never growing. In the small home church you are accountable for your walk with Christ. Everyone is there, willing to help you mature with encouragement. Your faith can't help but grow and you will read the Bible yourself, to see God's truths because everyone participates. In the traditional church there are many programs from which to choose.There are youth groups, different age groups, couples groups and singles groups. In many churches these programs are geared for their entertainment and very little if any actual ministry goes on. In the home church there is one group. Everything centers around the spiritual growth of the entire group, and learning God's truths and His will for our lives. They can concentrate on projects of outreach and accomplish them. To go, be and do all that Jesus asks. We know there are many fine churches around. There are also many pastors who are teaching truth. I had a pastor in the past in my church who wouldn't accept raises in his salary, a church with no debt. He taught truth even though it was controversial. I am sorry to say that he left after his truths and he is no longer pastoring a church. Our church didn't want the truth so he left after many sessions with the deacons, telling him what he could teach. May God bless pastor's like I had and the church that once was a loving family.The same church is now a place that grew in numbers but, it is now without a pastor for the third time. It is deep in debt with a new large building and is spiritually blind. They wanted a pastor to tickle their ears.
II Timothy 4:3-4 states: "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate or themselves teachers in accordance to their own desire; and they will turn away their ears from the truth, and will turn aside to myths."
Most of the original church that was warm and giving is now gone to other pastures. Each of us must make the decision of where we are to go to church. Do it prayerfully and use keen discernment.
Be with those who keep the commandments of God. Your spiritual maturity depends on it!
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Hello everyone. This is my first time posting here. It seems to be a very helpful site. My question is, When a group of people want to get together for a bible study and everyone there has felt the movement of God amongst us, how can one person turn around, when some of the women of the church complain that they are not involved in this bible study, and all of a sudden state that this group is not of God and she even went to our Associate pastor and told him lies about the teachings going on there. Our Associate pastor shut us down. This hurts so much, because I am a person to myself alot and going to this bible study has helped me learn more about the bible and has allowed me to step out of my comfort zone.
I guess my question is, How can a handful of people (women) cause so much turmoil in our church and call themselves Godly women? I am a new christian but this just totally seems wrong to me. They should be encouraging us to learn more about the bible and God. Just my opinion I guess.
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