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Lineman
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Interesting conjecture and opinions. Many things he said (in the video) could have been said a few years ago. We will see if this "pastor's" predictions will come true. Time will tell and it always does.

I have found it absoulutly sickening of what I have seen with "churches" with a cardboard cutout of George W. "allegedly" praying for him in their service (talk about idols). And alleged "pastors" praying for "preemptive strikes on other countries."

In my opinion this has been a downward spiral for many years....we didn't get to this spot over night. Facts are facts and we can always list them here. Funny thing is about facts, is you can never change them.

God Bless

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You need to watch this:

http://churchwebs.tv/video/254/A+Spirit+of+Wickedness


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Lineman
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I really don't like politics, and I am neither a democrat or republican. I didn't vote for either party because I will not vote for the " the lesser evil." If someone says "I voted for him because he is the lesser of two evils", that person still voted for EVIL! How about voting for NONE of them, I think that will send a clear message that would be heard. I am really tired of "Christians" voting republican because of the abortion issue. Abortion is 100% wrong and it's America's holocaust.

From my understanding (please correct me if I am wrong) that the 1973 supreme court ruling concerning Roe V. Wade was in favor of Roe. This made abortion legal. "The decision gave a woman total autonomy over the pregnancy during the first trimester and defined different levels of state interest for the second and third trimesters. As a result, the laws of 46 states were affected by the Court's ruling."

What I find evil and disturbing is: the majority of the 1973 supreme court was nominated by republican presidents. The republicans had a clear majority by the ratio of 6 to 3. From that time til now, the republicans has a majority, and the 1973 decision still has not been overturned.

I believe the devil is a master deceiver and he has deceived many in their votes.

Just my opinion.

God Bless

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Amen! Thank you Father it is so great to see all my brothers and sisters have their heads on tight thanks to their recognition of Your sovereignty in their lives. Please by your grace be merciful and light that fire of contrition and repentance in the heart of millions more Americans (from all our nations). Give us the zeal we need under your anointing and the strength to endure any hardship or persecution, and help us yeild to let Christ work through the Holy Spirit in us and then through us to all our families, neighbors, friends, and even to our enemies (though this is a hard saying). Thank you. All praise, honor, and glory are yours, Amen.

your unworthy son,

Paul

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Hi Bettylouise--just a point, no offence intended. I think if you read the various discussions you will see, as I do, that it goes without saying that virtually everyone(at least to my reading of it) would be very pro life. I have seen no disagreement as to this and unless I'm mistaken it almost goes without saying.
I totally agree with you with respect to Obama's pro choice stance on abortion, it being a sell out for political reasons to appease the feminists and socialists. But there is blood on the hands of conservatives too. For instance the many Republican members of congress who receive money from the health insurance lobby. They resist publicly funded health care for the most disadvantaged, which includes of course many minorities, also for political and power purposes. There is no excuse for Obama and there is no excuse for conservatives either.

God has no political party--He is a respector of no person and is above all the nonsense we see in the politics of the world. When we, as Christians, appear to jump on bandwagons such as the tea party people or those who persist in the idea that Obams is not qualified to be president on the grounds of his birthplace, our credibility comes into question.

I did mention racism in the discussion. But I did not say that anyone was a racist. What I said is that often people have hidden racial prejudice and to be careful as to what is at the bottom of their comments. If someone voted against Obama for reasons related to abortion, then they are certainly not a racist. God bless, Botham

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I voted against Obama. It had nothing to do with race. He is for allowing abortion at ANY stage of the pregnancy. My Church has two black Associate Pastors they also voted against him.
There seems to be the idea that if you vote against a black man it is because of race, but black men just like white can work against the Word of God.
Abortion is a sin.
Betty

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I have come to realize the following,

Baraq Husse'n O'Bama has been put into this leadership with the full knowledge that God being sovereign, has allowed this president into office for a reason that neither lost or saved can decern. I remember Corrie Ten Boom when she was stiching a cloth display the back side with a partial indecernable picture that people would comment to themselves its not beautiful to me. In her analogy she flipped the picture over and thru the master's eyes the picture made sense. Life's problems, the political events, the social events and yes even the religious events coined the atmosphere in which we live today.

Wether out of context or not: Romanos 8:28 declare that all things work together for good.

I am not an avocator of President Obama, I am avocate my Lord Jesus Christ. And for this reason I will spread the good news and will of God.

Psalms 118:17

I will not die, but live to declare the works of the Lord forever.

Sadly to say, Obama will not be going away anytime soon. But the sovereignty of the USA will be no more soon, unless God steps in to deliver her and put a fire within the hearts, souls, and minds of his people. We as believers have been bought with a price and that is the blood of Jesus the Christ.

Prophecy will happen and in his time, the desolations spoken by the prophet will come to pass.

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Barrykind--please be careful not to read too much into Obama's eligibility. It seems that you see it to be in the realm of powers and principalities. The politics of the world in general is powers and principalities. Just look at the olympic games soon to start in my country Canada. This is a political event more than it is a sporting event. It is one of the venues, along with the other globally organized sporting events, where the powers of the world consolidate the notion of global harmony, the precursor for one world government. This Obama business is small stuff and does appear to be racially motivated. So whether or not you have insidious subconscious racism, and perhaps we all do if we haven't allowed God to set this Right, it matters not. This is how you are perceived. Thank you for the excellent delineation of your points and for your support of Isreal. Politically I think it important to remain in prayer and support for the very place where Christ will return to. God bless you, Botham
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My dear brother Jim,

Shalom in the name above all names...

Here it is bottom line...the Obama citizenship malarky is hype and was created to excite his opposition (of which I am one but not hyped) and make them look like bigots...

THE TRUTH...Obama's mother IS an American Citizen she was born here....THUS...he automatically even if born in a cave deep below the mountains of Tibet with ten Moslem Imam's present...a U.S. Citizen...and THAT is why they will not humor the more hypr-active element in the conservative extreme over this issue...sorry there are extremists on both sides and they love to stir up controversy and trouble. They **** in the masses like a vacum and insight reactionary affect. They do it on purpose, It is there intent.

I am a historically orthodox follower of Y'shua (Jesus) and thus (I am Conser-biral or maybe a Lib-servative). I have no allegiance to this or any nation. I do think the U.S. Constitution is an amazing and benevolent secular Document inspired by the words of Scripture and values of Christianity. My citizenship however is the Kingdomm of Christ. Both political sides (right and left) con the Christians and exploit Christian issues for votes...both sides cheat and lie and decieve and commit adultery and chuckle at their sin and they all are vying for power (see Koffi Ana's "Our Global Neighborhood" on the UN Website). So I stick to the sanctity of life, defending the weak and the attacked, freesom of speech, spending intelligently, etc., but also equally important to YHVH/Jesus are feeding the poor, housing the homeless, healing the sick, and so on (Matthew 25)...

Some of these issues are offerred and supported by the Repubs (for their selfish puposes and hidden party agenda) and others by the Dems (for there selfish powermongering purposes and hidden agenda). Who knows they may have even got together and split them up among themselves. We are in trouble here no matter how we see it. soon it will be legal to arrest us for quotiing the Bible in Public or condemning what we know to be sin. Pastors quoting politically incorrect Scripture will be arrested. But all is well because this is just the beginning od sorrows.

If Christians would just unitedly decide enough is enough and NOT believe the media and be sure NOT to vote for anyone of the Two the Repub and Dem parties engineer for us to vote for, we would have a powerful effect. I say to all...Vote out your state reps and senators now...they no longer represent their consituency (the voters who put them there)...they only work the agenda...

Chesed V'Shalom Lachem...in the name of Jesus, family - Just my view - I pray you have not been offended...

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Dear Friends –

As you know we have wondered about Barack Hussein Obama since before the US Presidential primaries began. The GJiGT was among the first to raise the important question about this Muslim Marxist Senator from Illinois who has subsequently moved into the Whitehouse. Here are a series of 10 questions regarding Barack Hussein Obama that capsulate what this man means in this world which is now so obviously controlled by the prince of the power of the air.

1. Why did the Democrat National Committee (DNC) certify Obama's constitutional eligibility ONLY in Hawaii and in NONE of the other 49 States?

2. Why did no state DNC office, state DNC elector, or State Election Commission office see that the document they received from the national DNC did NOT verify that Obama was constitutionally eligible to be put on the ballot?

3. Since the DNC made NO certification of eligibility, on what basis do we assume Obama to be eligible to be on the ballot, or to become president?

4. Without any such certification, is it not more important than ever to see the actual birth certificate, passport records, and selective service records, AND to ask the courts to make an official ruling on the definition of NATURAL BORN CITIZEN constitutional eligibility requirement for anyone who would want to prove to be eligible to be President of the United States?

5. Why did the DNC use TWO DIFFERENT certification documents, one with NO certification for the 49 States, and one with certification for Hawaii? Never has there been such clear proof of INTENTIONAL election FRAUD.

6. On what basis will the big media of the prince of the power of the air continue to claim that Obama is eligible? Because from a constitutional basis Obama clearly is NOT eligible? Why are new terms invented to DENEGRATE anyone who would ask any questions related to constitutional eligibility? Is it because Obama represents living proof of the DESTRUCTION of the American CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC?

7. Why did Nancy Pelosi show signs of stress in her signature on the Hawaii certification of Obama?

8. When will the majority of Americans demand answers to these and many more questions?

9. Most important of all, what should be, and what will be the response of the US Military?

10. Will the Military obey orders from an ILLEGAL commander in chief. Should they obey the fraudulent usurper, or be obedient to their oath to protect and defend the US Constitution from such a great domestic enemy? Will they join with the Federal Lawmakers and Judges and Media who have joined with this mother of all election
FRAUDS, or will they stand against it?

These are all vital questions that deserve answers, but ones where answers are hard to come by. One thing we do know by now is that Obama and Pelosi have lied and defrauded the people of America and that can not be expected to change.

Why is the greatest FRAUD and biggest news story in recent history treated by the prince of the power of the air's big media as things that never happened? The TWO DIFFERENT documents from the DNC to have Obama put on the ballot are real. Why were there TWO DIFFERENT documents and why was the document which stated - that the following candidates for President and Vice President of the United States are legally qualified to serve under the provisions of the United States Constitution - NOT filed in 49 states, but only Hawaii?

The media of the prince of the power of the air refuses to ask such a question.

Suppose there is a reasonable answer, it still is FRIGHTENING what is implied when no one is asking the question. Pelosi's people and the media of the prince of the power of the air are stonewalling, evading, and hiding the issue.

That says volumes and those volumes are FEARFUL in their implications.

This frightening reality is the reason the prince of the power of the air mass media circulation rates are rapidly falling. Now over 100 million Americans are aware of the FRAUD that the big media only wants to Hide, and prevent any intelligent or open discussion. Their ratings are in free fall. Even with a Nobel Peace Prize, attempt to legitimize this FRAUD and illegal president, Obama's ratings continue to fall as well. The silence, and efforts to hide the truth, are now confirming the truth that Barack Hussein Obama can NOT prove that he is eligible, under the Constitution, to hold the office of President of the United States. IN AND OF ITSELF, THIS PROVES OBAMA'S FRAUD AND INELIGIBILITY.

There are two major reasons why the prince of the power of the air is ignoring a story of which Watergate would be a pimple by comparison. The so-called news media is not news, but state and corporate controlled PROPAGANDA. It really is nothing but entertainment journalism, and disinformation mass mind control. People like Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh are entertainers employed by the prince of the power of the air. Anyone presenting themselves as a newsman who has NOT raised the ELIGIBILITY QUESTION is not a newsman but an entertainer for the prince of the power of the air.

When we first googled Obama Eligibility and/or Obama Birth Certificate back about the time of the New Hampshire primary there was barely a thousand articles. Maybe not even that, I can not really remember and I am sorry that I did not write that fact down. Today in writing this and googling Obama Eligibility = 1.5 Million, Obama Birth Certificate = 1.4 MILLION, Obama Birth = 36.5 MILLION. How could that not possibly be news?

Not news that over 300 grand jury CRIMINAL indictments have been presented to prosecutors and courts charging Obama with FRAUD and Treason? Not news that Obama has used 39 different Social Security Numbers, and over 100 false addresses? Not news that Lt. Quarles Harris, an officer at the US passport agency, was shot dead after the break-in and purging of Barack Hussein Obama's passport file? Not news that Obama spent time in Pakistan in 1981 when it was IMPOSSIBLE to do so with an American Passport at that time? Not news that Obama has forged and backdated Selective Service records? Not news that Obama has spent an estimated 2 Million dollars in legal fees to keep such records sealed? Not news that Obama would not visit the families of the 13 dead and 30 wounded by the Muslim Major who was about to be deployed to Iraq from Fort Hood? Not news that Barack Hussein Obama is systematically destroying and represents living proof of the destruction of the American Constitutional Republic?

The bottom line of all this is to know what the Lord said when we see these things come to pass. He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. Yes, Christians and Jews will soon be led as sheep to the slaughter, at the extermination camps, which are NOW fully prepared. We must get our faith to quickly grow from faith to FAITH. We do see THESE THINGS profoundly emphasized in the reality and actions of the Muslim, usurper, unconstitutional, fraudulent, criminal, illegal, treasonous president, and the NEWS QUESTIONS that are BANNED by the prince of the power of the air.

Are we born again? If so, here is the direction:
And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins: Wherein IN TIME PAST ye walked according to the course of this world, according to THE PRINCE OF THE POWER OF THE AIR, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: That in the ages to come he might show the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem. Pray Psalm 83 every day. Only be very strong and of good courage. Stay IN the Word.

From Chittim, Isa 23:1,

Shalom & Simcha,
Jim Searcy

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