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Endoxos
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You know what gets me? First, way back when, you dare say "divorce", everyone gasps in shock (and should you say anything worse, everyone vomits and/or would want to arrest you for essentially indecent mouth ^_^). As divorce has been normal for a number of years (and as a result fornication skyrockets to our current level), and homosexuality has become acceptable by nearly all of society, very few are repulsed by any sexual sin, pedophilia, polygamy and beastiality. I mean, we got NAMBLA shouting "Sex after 8 is too late" (and nobody is crying "foul!"), the Mormons in Utah struggling to get polygamy legal again (which, oddly, gays oppose vehemently), and the Swedes and backwoods US farmers out in the barn.
If we can have the same "freedoms" as Sodom and Gomorrah, then who will say that sociopaths and psychopaths are "abnormal" anymore? Our psychologists' whole purpose will be "take this drug and feel happy 24/7; no the guy next door isn't stalking you, he's being a friendly neighbor.. no, he's not doing anything wrong, you are wrong, by being offended at his perfectly normal actions... there must be something wrong with you if you are offended at that"... and then we'll get a whole slew of psychological "disorders" that what would have been called "morality" (which would end up being medicated to ensure people no longer feel offended at another's lifestyle).
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H2G2
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And you are choosing to ignore the parts of the definition which don't agree with you argument.
Marriage has never been the 'property' of the church(es) and no matter how much you may dislike the fact, marriages have taken place in all societies, Christian, Hindu, Pagan, Zoroastrian and any others you may like to think of since pre-history.
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Gary
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So you're going to just pick out the part of the definition that fits what you want to say, huh?
I don't know you, H2G2. What are you up to here?
Gary
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H2G2
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quote:
Originally posted by Gary:
From the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary: quote:
2 : to unite in close and usually permanent relation
2 : COMBINE, UNITE <seafood marries with other flavors>
Seems to me that says a little more than just to join together.
I REST MY CASE ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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antitox
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RioLion mentioned Cong. Barney Franks' comment on gay marriage not affecting hetero marriage. Actually, that's not my area of concern as much as their way of legally forcing it upon the public using the civil rights banner. When they go about it this way, it forces the public to examine it and consider it as a civil issue. That's what the civil rights part of it is. A civil issue is always a "public" issue. That's their scheme to get it into your face and gain acceptance of their practice. And by golly, it's working. If you look back at how our court systems have been altered to accept more evil-doing as sicknesses or insanity along with new loopholes they've brought into the system, then it should be obvious that this is part of that wave to bring more uncleanness into society. In other words, the restraint is loosening. The presence of the church is what has been slowing their progress down.
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Gary
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From the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary: quote:
2 entries found for Marry.
To select an entry, click on it.
marry[1,verb]marry[2,interjection]
Main Entry: 1mar·ry
Pronunciation: 'mar-E also 'mer-
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): mar·ried; mar·ry·ing
Etymology: Middle English marien, from Old French marier, from Latin maritare, from maritus married
transitive senses
1 a : to join as husband and wife according to law or custom b : to give in marriage <married his daughter to his partner's son> c : to take as spouse : WED <married the girl next door> d : to perform the ceremony of marriage for <a priest will marry them> e : to obtain by marriage <marry wealth>
2 : to unite in close and usually permanent relation
intransitive senses
1 : to take a spouse : WED
2 : COMBINE, UNITE <seafood marries with other flavors>
- marry into : to become a member of by marriage <married into a prominent family>
Seems to me that says a little more than just to join together.
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Gary
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To 'marry' means to join together (people, communities, inert materials even). It is just a word and has no inherant moral, religious or legal overtones.
And if you believe that, I've got some oceanfront property in Kansas you might be interested in. Or how about the Brooklyn Bridge? I have the deed to that right here...
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H2G2
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Originally posted by Daniel S:
I've said it before and I'll say it again...
Homosexual Marriage is an oxymoron.
To 'marry' means to join together (people, communities, inert materials even). It is just a word and has no inherant moral, religious or legal overtones.
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Daniel S
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I've said it before and I'll say it again...
Homosexual Marriage is an oxymoron.
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RioLion
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The homosexual community, esp. Congressman Barney Franks, tells us that same sex marriage will not affect the marriage that exist between a man and a woman, so what is the big deal? But is he correct?
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RICHMOND, Va. (BP)--Have you been listening to the homosexual couples around the country asking why they shouldn't be allowed to marry? Have you noticed how few answers to that question are being reported in the mass media?
One reason, of course, is that the major media have abandoned their responsibilities as impartial reporters and made themselves advocates for the cause of "gay liberation."
But the main reason you're not hearing a convincing reply is that so many Americans -- even many Christians -- actually believe homosexuality is a legitimate "alternative lifestyle choice," or they just want to hide their heads form what is happening.
Though many regular folks are afraid to say it or just won't for fear of being labeled a "homophobe," the Christians community needs to stand with God on this issue.
The propaganda campaign to "normalize" homosexuality began in the early 1970s, when homosexual psychiatrists finally convinced the American Psychiatric Association to revise the manual used to diagnose mental disorders. The APA changed the diagnostic criteria to say that a person with homosexual feelings didn't have a disorder unless those feelings distressed the person or prevented him or her from functioning socially.
In succeeding years, the APA gradually edged toward removing homosexuality from the manual entirely. Once that was done, it was only a matter of time before governments were convinced to repeal or quit enforcing sodomy laws. The "gay" community also has waged an effective propaganda campaign to portray homosexuals as just the boy or girl next door.
Some Americans still understand, however, that homosexual feelings are not mental disorders, no more than sexual feelings for a child or an animal or another wife, but are results of sin in the life of the individual. Homosexuality when practiced is the acting on those sinful thoughts.
Even the thoughts can be traced to sinful behavior of choice. Homosexual activity is sinful because it involves a choice to reject God's plain intent in creation. The Apostle Paul links homosexuality to a person's choice to worship the creature, rather than the Creator (Romans 1:20-32). Genesis 1:27-28 says God created mankind male and female and told them to "be fruitful and multiply." Even schoolchildren know male and female bodies were designed to work together for the purpose of reproduction.
You won't hear this on the evening news, but it is a crucial issue -- and one on which Christians can no longer afford to be silent.
The U.S. Supreme Court says the individual's "right to privacy" includes the right to define who he is and the freedom to live according to that self-definition. It's a dangerous belief and one that stands against God if carried to the length of homosexuality rights.
In Roe v. Wade, it got us abortion on demand, which has cost us the lives of millions of unborn children -- with horrible physical, psychological and spiritual consequences for their mothers. In Lawrence v. Texas, it got us a federal override of state laws prohibiting sodomy. And with the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court, it got us a court-ordered right to homosexual marriage, a move that threatens to spread rapidly across the country.
That idea -- that each individual is free to live out his own self-definition -- also may eventually get us pedophile liberation, but for sure it will bring the wrath of God on us. Indeed, that process already has begun. Activists are pressing to lower the age of consent in the United States like it has been in Europe. The mass media are busy turning girls and boys into sex objects at ever-younger ages. And the American Psychiatric Association already has revised its diagnostic manual to say that pedophile feelings aren't a mental disorder unless the feelings distress the person or prevent him from functioning socially. Sound familiar?
We are not homophobes. We simply believe that God had the right idea when he created mankind male and female. We recognize homosexual feelings for the sin that they are. We believe God desires wholeness for people who have homosexual feelings. We believe Jesus has the power to deliver any of us from the power of any sin. We believe our responsibility is to reach out in love to everyone who is lost and hurting including the homosexual, but we also believe that we need to have laws against the sin since the Lord Himself gave those laws.
We also believe society must not award special rights or privileges on the basis of sexual preference. Legalizing homosexual civil unions or marriages would be a serious mistake that would legitimize sexual sin and eventually leave our society with no reason for prohibiting marriages between multiple partners or even with children. We have already made the mistake of doing away with laws against homosexuality and now we are seeing the results. Remember God will not be mocked and because we in the Christian community have turned from the ways of God we are now reaping the results and more are to come unless we return.
Christians too often are silent when they need to be speaking the truth in love, but great numbers of us need to have the courage to tell the truth as well as stand for it. If you don't want America to make another serious mistake, you must act now to tell your local, county, state and national lawmakers that you will not accept homosexual marriage in any form, and then seek to have the laws returned to make homosexuality a crime.
Pro 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin [is] a reproach to any people.
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