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Miguel
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Originally posted by Rog:
I don't know what it is, but most Christians seem to jump over the idea in Matthew 24 from "nation shall rise against nation" then jump to the rapture and the "abomination of desolation" but do not see nor realize that after "Nation shall rise against Nation":

Matthew 24:9
9."Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake.

Mark 13:9
9."But watch out for yourselves, for they will deliver you up to councils, and you will be beaten in the synagogues. You will be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony to them.

Mark 13:11
11."But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.

Rog

Because the address is to the ones that are left behind, a second redemption for those that where not part of the first resurrection.

Not knowing that, that it is for us in general and after that the second appearance of our Lord.

The Lord Jesus pray to the Father that He should keeps us from the evil one, not to take us out of this world.

“To keep until He returns”

Some of the approach on this is that this was for the apostles only.

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Romans 9:11-24

Our Eschatology may vary even our Ecclesiology may be disputed among us but our Soteriology most assume a singularity and exclusivity which in biblical term is known as Quote; "The Narrow Way" and Quote!

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Rog, I have not missed that point. The Jews will be persecuted yet again, as well as Christians. The Jews in Judaea (Matthew 24:15-22) will be immediately effected at the time of the abomination of desolation. In fact, this is what triggers the Great Tribulation.
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I don't know what it is, but most Christians seem to jump over the idea in Matthew 24 from "nation shall rise against nation" then jump to the rapture and the "abomination of desolation" but do not see nor realize that after "Nation shall rise against Nation":

Matthew 24:9
9."Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and kill you, and you will be hated by all nations for My name's sake.

Mark 13:9
9."But watch out for yourselves, for they will deliver you up to councils, and you will be beaten in the synagogues. You will be brought before rulers and kings for My sake, for a testimony to them.

Mark 13:11
11."But when they arrest you and deliver you up, do not worry beforehand, or premeditate what you will speak. But whatever is given you in that hour, speak that; for it is not you who speak, but the Holy Spirit.

Rog

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What's interesting to me is that the trouble started in the earth at Babel with Nimrod, and the trouble ends with Babel with modern-day Nimrod S. Hussein. Coincidence?

God bless, [Cross] BORN AGAIN [Cross]

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I am reposting this from the Israel forum.
This is from:

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posted February 22, 2003 03:16 PM
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THE COMING WAR WITH IRAQ AND PROPHECIED EVENTS LEADING TO THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST!

Israel Is Proof That These are the Last Days-
I believe that we are the final generation that Jesus Christ spoke about when answering His disciples questions about His return and the end of the age and when it would occur(Matthew 24:3-32). Here he speaks about fighting between nations, famines and earthquakes, and the love of most people growing cold, with all of these signs increasing with frequency and intensity like a woman's labor pains as the time of His return draws closer. But the real eye opener is in verse 32-35 where Jesus tells in what time period these events would occur,
"Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Even so when you see all these things, (happening with increased intensity and frequency)you know that it (His coming) is near, right at the door. I tell you the truth THIS GENERATION (that sees these events unfold) will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words
will never pass away."

What an important and exciting time to be alive! The fig tree that Jesus described represents the nation of Israel and the Bible is proof of that. The fig tree represents Israel in the Bible (see Joel 1:7, Hosea 9:10). Jesus is describing the growth of Israel as a fig tree and saying "when you see this happening my coming is near!" The Israeli population wandered without a nation for over 2,000 years and recently, in 1948 the nation of Israel was born. This same year saw the rise of the United Nations, the global kingdom that will give birth to the world leader known as the antichrist and his New World Order as foretold in the books of Daniel and Revelation. Daniel foretold of a seven year peace agreement that the antichrist will confirm with Israel and the international community which will be broken after just 3 1/2 years (see Daniel 9:27). I am positive that the negotiations for the coming peace agreement will include the status of Jerusalem. God says in Zechariah 12:2-3,
"I am going to make Jerusalem a cup that sends all the surrounding peoples reeling...On that day, when all the nations of the earth (UN Troops)are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injur themselves."

Everyday in your local newspaper and on the news you can hear about "final status talks" between the Palestinians and the Israelis. These talks are actually about the status of Jerusalem and whether it should be divided with a section handed over to the Palestinians for their future Palestinian capital. Indeed sadly, many nations today, including the United States, are trying to move the immovable rock of Jerusalem! The United States should heed the word of God and immediately abandon any plans to divide Jerusalem!

The Iraq Connection-
Scripture tells us in Revelation 9:13-21 of a war that is coming that will kill 1/3 of mankind, or one person out of every three on the planet! Scripture is clear that this war originates from a land with the Euphrates River, which goes right through Iraq. Furthermore, the scripture is also clear that chemical agents will be used when is says, "A third of mankind was killed by the three plaques of fire, smoke and sulfur."
And according to Isaiah 13, Iraq will be completely obliterated and the description in this prophecy is amazingly similar to the effects of nuclear destruction. But it seems that this war will escalate and lead to global war. It also seems likely that this war will eventually give more teeth to the United Nations, legitimizing its power and enabling the coming world leader to emerge out of the ashes and chaos as the apparent savior to mankind. But he will be a fraud, an antichrist.

The Rome Statute- THE Seven Year Covenant?
The seven year peace covenant that is being confirmed with the international community will eventually be confirmed with Israel, starting the final countdown of the final seven year period before the return of Jesus Christ. I believe this covenant is already in the works and is already being "confirmed with many" through the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court. Nations that ratify this treaty knowingly yield their national sovereignty to the global body of the United Nations, now known as the New World Order.
You can research this document on the web at: http://iccnow.org/html/icc19990712.html

The Rome Statute is the body of laws that will govern the New World Order, or the one-world governmental system of the antichrist. These laws, which do grant a SEVEN YEAR exemption period for any nation deciding to withdraw after ratifying, will be enforced through the now functional World Court known as the International Criminal Court. You can research the World Court on the web at: http://iccnow.org The Rome Statute covenant could be used by the antichrist to bring a false peace to Israel, with the "promised" support and "backing" of military support from the international community.

Scripture tells us that the antichrist will come to power by plotting and scheming, but that he will come to power on a platform of peace. He will use man's desire for peace to institute new laws that will appear to help the security of the world's citizens. One of these laws will be a mark in your right hand or forehead that will, no doubt, be an attempt to weed out terrorists and those newly defined "terrorists" that oppose the one-world governmental system of the antichrist. If you accept this "mark of the beast" which will be an allegiance to the antichrist and his global government your fate is sealed and your soul can no longer be saved (see Rev. 13:11-18 and Rev. 14:9-12). Without this mark you will not be able to buy or sell products, but if you remain faithful to Jesus and refuse the mark, you will be saved for eternity. It is your choice!
This mark may be a future imbedded microchip like the Verichip which is available today from the company Applied Digital Solutions.
http://www.adsx.com/prodservpart/verichip.html www.adsx.com/prodservpart/verichip.html

Revelation 13:16-17
He also forced everyone small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark in his right hand or in his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

Revelation 14:9-13
9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,
10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.
11 “And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.”
12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.
13 And I heard a voice from heaven, saying, “Write, ‘Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on!’ ” “Yes,” says the Spirit, “so that they may rest from their labors, for their deeds follow with them.”

If you do not know Jesus, NOW is the time! He is coming SOON!

A Prayer Of Eternal Salvation
If you are not sure about all this and are not sure where you stand in your eternal salvation, if you do not understand much of this prophecy stuff but know your life is need of direction, then let He who made you guide you toward your journey home. You see, we are just passing through in our present life here. Our real home is with Jesus. Our purpose here is to honor God, serve him continuously, and to thank him for all things. You have just discovered your simple purpose in life: To trust your creator and have an unwavering faith in Him. Please understand that we are all sinners and are in this thing together. The Word of God declares there is not one righteous enough to enter heaven on his own. No, not one. This is the very reason Jesus died for you on the cross. So that by believing in his incredible gift of Love and sacrifice, and by believing in Jesus as Lord and Saviour, that we may be worthy THROUGH Him. So please humble yourself to the One who died on the cross, but who was raised bodily and now lives. Yes, Jesus lives and is returning again soon! And he loves you and wants you to come home to stay. Thanks to Jesus, YOU ARE WORTHY of salvation. No sin is too great to be washed away if you believe in the One worthy to wash it away. Please pray this prayer today. In an age of wars and terrorism your life could end abruptly and you may not get another chance at eternal life:

Dear Lord Jesus,
Thank you for your loving grace. Thank you for dying on the cross for me to wash away my sins. Lord, forgive my sins and come into my heart this day. Lord, I confess that you are the Son of God and know that you will save me from eternal punishment in hell. Regardless of what happens to my earthly body in this life, I know that my eternal soul belongs to you and you will never leave me nor forsake me. Thank you, Lord, for your grace and mercy. I give praise to you for bringing me home! In your precious holy name I pray, Amen.

And Amen!
If you prayed this prayer, hallelujah! Congratulations! The Holy Spirit is about to make a big difference in your life, even if you do not feel it just yet. If you accepted Christ today and need additional support or any information please contact me and I will be happy to respond. God bless you as you begin your walk as a Christian. Keep the faith, the Lord is coming soon!

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