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EVERYONE who is in the FIRST RESURRECTION will REIGN WITH CHRIST ON EARTH for the 1000 years!
This is EVERYONE from Adam until Christ returns who is "IN CHRIST". This will include people from EVERY NATION!!!!
ZION NOT JUST A JEWISH THING!!!!
Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
..and it's not just a beheaded thing -though some will be -and he will certainly reward them for enduring such for his testimony.
The rest -who are not in the first resurrection -but will be resurrected to the judgment after the 1000 years -are not doomed. God is only calling the FIRSTFRUITS in this time! ONLY those who will reign with him during the thousand years! The majority of mankind will not receive eternal life UNTIL the judgment!
Jam 1:18 Of his own will begat he us with the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures.
Rev 14:4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished.....
some will be cast into the lake of fire -but this is the judgment after the thousand years -and some of these ARE -even then -written in the book of life...
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
and there may be more to it yet!
...1Co 3:13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.
1Co 3:14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
1Co 3:15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.
1Co 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
1Co 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
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Judgments
The Judgments of God
by Dr. Walter Martin
From the From The Founder column of the Christian Research Newsletter, Volume 5: Number 2, 1992.
Of all the doctrines taught in the Bible, none is declared with more consistency and fervor than the doctrine of divine judgment.
But how many judgments are there? And who will be judged? Though there are a number of judgments that may be found in the pages of Scripture, there are five that I believe are particularly important. Let us briefly examine these.
The first judgment I want to mention will take place at the return of the Lord Jesus Christ (Matt. 16:27; 1 Cor. 4:4-5; Rev. 22:12), and will be a judgment of the works of believers. Whatever the Christian has built upon the foundation (Christ) -- whether it be gold, silver, precious stones, or else wood, hay, and stubble -- it must be tried by the fire of divine judgment. The work of some believers will stand the test while that of others will be burned away. But even though a man's works may be consumed, his faith in the imperishable foundation will remain and his salvation rests secure (1 Cor. 3:11-15).
It should be noted that Paul's counsel is directed here to Christians, for only the Christian will appear before the judgment seat (Greek: Bema) of Christ. This Bema judgment has nothing whatever to do with the unsaved, for they are never mentioned in connection with it.
One of the greatest errors ever perpetrated in Christian theology is the idea that one great judgment will take place at the end of the age, at which all men will be gathered before the Great White Throne. There is absolutely no basis in the Word of God for such an idea.
A second divine judgment concerns the righteous judgment of all nations. Scripture declares that this judgment will also take place at the return of Jesus Christ (Matt. 25:32). It should be distinguished from the final judgment of the wicked -- which takes place at the Great White Throne -- since three distinct groups of individuals are represented: sheep, goats, and brethren. And, according to verse 31, the setting of this judgment is the earth (i.e., not a Great White Throne).
A third judgment in Scripture concerns the nation Israel. Bible scholars may disagree about the nature and extent of this judgment, but they are fairly well agreed that such a judgment must take place. Such passages as Ezekiel 20:37-38, Isaiah 1:24-26, and Malachi 3:2-5 definitely teach such a judgment.
Certainly, as Paul puts it in Romans 11:2, "God hath not cast away his people" (Israel). But it will be necessary for them to pass through great tribulation so that a godly remnant may be saved out of the wrath that is to come.
A fourth judgment is that of Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and Satan's multitudinous emissaries -- the fallen angels. Jesus once declared, "Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out" (John 12:31). In that statement Satan's doom was sealed. Although sentence was pronounced upon him at the Cross, it is not until Revelation 20:10 that the sentence is executed: "And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever."
A fifth judgment in the Word of God concerns that of the Great White Throne (Rev. 20:11-15). In this judgment the saints will be seated with Christ, and the wicked -- those "not found in the book of life" -- will be judged. The fate of those who endure this judgment is the second death, everlasting separation from the presence of the Lord (Rev. 21:Cool.
The wonder of the doctrine of divine judgment is the fact that the Christ of Calvary's cross will be the Judge of the Great White Throne. What a comfort it is for the believer to realize that he has passed from death to life and will not be judged in the final Great White Throne judgment.
These facts should cause us as believers to judge ourselves (1 Cor. 11:31). Indeed, since Peter tells us that "judgment must begin at the house of God" (1 Pet. 4:17), we ought to examine ourselves closely.
The Christian has nothing to fear from these judgments. He need only see that his works be composed of the gold, silver, and precious gems that will endure the fire of God's holiness.
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1 Thess 4:
13: But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14: For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15: For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16: For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18: Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Rev. 19:
7: Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8: And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.
9: And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
14: And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15: And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
16: And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
17: And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
18: That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
19: And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
20: And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
21: And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Are the dead in Christ with Him at His return?
Are we which are alive and remain with Christ at His return?
Rev. 20:
4: And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5: But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6: Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Have the dead in Christ been resurrected?
Are we which are alive and remain with the Lord?
Please note that it is the DEAD who are brought before the great White Throne.
Either we who are alive and remain must be killed and then resurrected, and those who have been resurrected, killed and the resurrected or the Believer does not have a part in the second resurrection.
Please note that when Satan is loosed and deceives, after the Thousand years, all those who he deceives are destroyed by God, and become part of the unrighteous dead:
Rev. 20:
7: And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8: And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9: And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
It is the dead who are brought forth in the second resurrection to stand before the Great White Throne:
Rev. 20:
11: And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
This is the summary statement, the watermark between the first and second resurrection:
15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
For NONE of the unrighteous dead are found in the Lamb's Book of Life.
5 Judgments
HE PEOPLE BEING JUDGED
The third thing we want to say about this judgment is related to the people. Who are the people who will be judged at the Great White Throne? Various passages of Scripture plainly state that only the unjust will be at this judgment--not the just, not the born-again believer.
We refer to Revelation, chapter 20, verses 4 and 5, where we are told that the just--the believer--has his part in the first resurrection. He has part in the resurrection of the just, not in the resurrection of the unjust. May I remind you of what is recorded in Romans, chapter 8, verse 1:
ROMANS 8
1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus...
We will stop here, though my King James version goes on to say, "who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." That phrase is not in the original manuscript. The verse reads, "There is therefore now no judgment to them who are in Christ Jesus." The words"condemnation" and "judgment" are used interchangeably. If you are in the Lord Jesus Christ--that is, if you are trusting the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior--then you will not stand at the judgment of which we speak.
ONLY THE UNSAVED
As we think about the people who are to be judged, emphasizing that only the ungodly will be there, let me suggest to you that they will be there only in a resurrected form of life. For if you will glance at verse 12, we notice:
REVELATION 20
12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it...
Who is going to be judged at this Great White Throne Judgment? The dead, all of those who have died without the Lord Jesus Christ. Now, those who have died in Christ will already have been raised at the time when the Lord Jesus Christ comes in the air for His Church (I Thessalonians 4 and I Corinthians 15). According to Revelation, chapter 20, verses 4 and 5, the rest of the dead (those not raised in the first resurrection) remain dead until this Great White Throne Judgment. Then they, small and great, will be raised and the sea will give up its dead also. In Revelation, chapter 20, not only is reference made to the small and the great, by way of distinction, but we read in verse 13 of another distinction:
REVELATION 20
13 ...death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them:...
Death is what holds the body captive. Hell is what holds the spirit captive. So, those dead spirits will be united with dead bodies; body and spirit will be raised to stand before the Great White Throne Judgment.
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The "Bema seat" (or judgment seat) was an elevated seat, located in Corinth. At this seat in the square, Roman magistrates would sit and administer justice. Athletes may also have appeared here and received rewards for having distinguished themselves.
If a person is unsaved and dies in their sin, they will be judged at the "great white throne judgment" following the Millennium. If a person is a born-again believer in Jesus, they will be judged at the "judgment seat of Christ." Salvation is not an issue at this judgment. Their sins have already been forgiven. A person might then ask, how will we be judged? and for what will we be judged?
At this judgment, we must give an account of our life and what we did or did not do for the Lord. The believer's service to God will be reviewed and rewarded. For his lack of service or doing certain things, he will suffer loss. We will be held responsible for the things we did in our body. Every hidden thing will be made known. Every secret thing we said will be proclaimed; nothing will be hid. All believers must appear before this judgment seat.
2 Cor. 5:
10: For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Romans 14:
10: But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11: For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12: So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Some people will receive crowns in heaven as a special kind of reward for their sacrificial living while on earth.
The twenty-four elders seated around God’s throne wear golden crowns and white garments (Revelation 4:4).
While we don’t know the identity of these individuals or even exactly what the crowns represent, we do know these people overcame intense difficulties. The Greek word used for "crown" in this passage is stephanos: a victor’s crown.
Five different crowns are mentioned in Scripture:
The imperishable crown for those who exhibit disciplined lives (1 Corinthians 9:25â€"27).
The crown of rejoicing for those who lead others to Christ (1 Thessalonians 2:19â€"20, Philippians 4:1).
The crown of righteousness for those who love his appearing (2 Timothy 4:Cool.
The crown of glory for those who faithfully shepherd the flock (1 Peter 5:2â€"4).
The crown of life for those who overcome spiritual battles (James 1:12, Revelation 2:10).
The above list is probably more suggestive than it is exhaustive. God may hand out crowns to many other faithful believers and for many other purposes. These crowns won’t be awarded so we can show off our earthly accomplishments. Nor will they be for the purpose of making a fashion statement. I believe that these crowns signify different positions and assignments throughout eternity.
1 Thess. 4:
14: For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15: For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16: For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18: Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
Rev. 20:
4: And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
John saw thrones and they sat upon them, AND HE SAW the souls of them who had been beheaded and they lived and reigned.
The dead in Christ whom the Lord brings with Him, and we which are alive and remain caught-up to EVER be with the Lord!!!!!
5: But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6: Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
THE SECOND RESURRECTION:
11: And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12: And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13: And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15: And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
There are no LIVING before the Great White Throne!!!!!!
None of the Righteous Dead in Christ before the Great White Throne!!!!
John 14:
2: In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3: And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
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Hi Eden,
I apologize for using the word "saved" instead of the words that you used. I realize that could really change the meaning of the overall question of yours. It was'nt an intentional sabotage by any means.
Someone the other day got me thinking when they asked.............. "Wouldnt the 1000yr reign precede the day of the Lord if 2Peter 3:10 is correct?" 2Peter 3:10 says that in the day of the Lord the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Would'nt this mean that the nations would be non-existent?
Now I really wonder if the 1000yr reign is more figurative speech than literal.
With love in Christ, Daniel
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Hi, oneinchrist, you said quote:
If it were true that only the beheaded were saved...
I did not say that only the beheaded would be saved, I wondered if only the beheaded will reign with Christ.
For instance, it could be possible that first the beheaded for Jesus reign with Jesus during the 1,000 years and that at the end of the thousand years, we the rest of the believers are raised from the dead and receive our glorified bodies.
And it is also possible that Jesus is already ruling over the world from heaven now that Jesus has the keys of death and hades, and it is also possible that those who have been beheaded for the cause of Christ during the centuries since Jesus are already reigning with Christ in heaven, right now.
It may be that our traditional view of a future 1,000-year reign of Christ on earth is actually Jesus's rule from heaven right now, and that the other dead in Christ and those Christians who are alive when Jesus comes the Second time, then the rest of us are changed.
I certainly get the impression that we are glorified when Jesus sets down on the mount of Olives and begins to reign over the nations from Jerusalem, so perhaps the 1,000 year reign or the period of chilioi is the church age and since Jesus has the keys of hades and death, the kingdom of God already started with Jesus being in heaven seated at the right hadn of the Father.
So maybe those who are beheaed for Christ are already reigning with Jesus from heaven, and then when that chilioi period is over, Jesus and the host of heaven comes down to earth and the rest of the dead in Christ will rise from their graves and we who are alive will meet Them in the air and at that point we descend to the mount of Olives and all the glorified Christians begin to rule over the nations with Jesus IN PERSON HERE.
Or something like that...
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Hi Eden,
I am not going to pretend to be an expert on the book of Revelation. I do believe that we should take it to heart, but be very cautious with men's interpretations of it.
If it were true that only the beheaded were saved, then I would question why Jesus would say......"what is it to you if he tarry till I come?"
I am wondering if this begs the question on whether the 1000yr reign is to be interpreted literal or with meaning behind the words.
With love in Christ, Daniel
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Who will RULE and REIGN WITH CHRIST for A THOUSAND YEARS? Only the BEHEADED?
Rev.20:4 mentions the category of persons who will reign with Christ for a thousand years. This category of persons who will reign with Christ for a thousand years in Rev.20:4 are persons who are beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the Word of God:
Rev.20:4 And I saw thrones and they sat upon them; and judgment was given to them; and I saw the souls of them who were beheaded for the witness of Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshipped the beast, nor his image, neither had received a mark upon their foreheads or in their hands; and and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
This witness of Jesus began from the time Jesus Christ first came. Christians throughout the Church Age have witnessed of Jesus.
Secondly, it's a historical fact that millions of Christians have been killed during the Church Age for their witness of Jesus, and that many were beheaded. Werner Keller mentions in his book, The Bible as History, that Paul was beheaded during Nero's persecution because Roman citizens could not be crucified. Foxe's Book of Martyrs also describes scores and scored of Christians who were beheaded for their witness of Jesus.
So does Rev.20:4 mean that only Christians who suffered that kind of death, by beheading, will rule and reign with Christ a thousand years?
And, when will we who are now Christians alive on earth receive our glorified spiritual bodies, at the start of the thousand years, or at the end of the thousand years?
eden
"Prince Jesus, I'm looking forward to Your reign over the nations"
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