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Originally posted by A. Ben-Shema:
Ben-Shema:
Yes, I fully agree with you. Indeed, He WAS the gospel. He WAS the living Word. But that was 2,000 years ago, and Jesus is now dead. We now have to find a living Master!
FYI: A. Ben-Shema has been banned for trying to teach a false gospel on this message board.
and for breaking the below rule of this message board:
The Holy Scriptures as originally given, inspired by God, to be the only infallible authority in all matters of faith and practice.
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Yes, Yes, Yes! I have already explained why the Jews believe angels to have wings. Don't you read and understand my posts!!!
You know an easy way to tell if some one Knows and Experieces God - If they continually read from, or quote scriptures, instead of being able to speak through the Spirit within their heart, then they plainly do not Know or Experience God. Have you noticed when the Pope and most other high officials of all churches speak, they read from a script. Every time you talk to me, you read and quote from the scriptures. If you truly experience the Spirit, then talk to me through your experience. I already know what the Bible says (and also the Koran, Bhagavad Gita, Egyptian Book of the Dead, Upanishads, Tibetan Book of the Dead, Ginza, Rag Asa, Vedas, Yasht, Dhammapada, Japji, Yasna, Chaldaean Oracles, Mahavagga, Suttanipata, etc.) so please stop repeating the same old arguements over and over like a parrot. If you know not God, then it is better to keep quiet and listen.
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A. Ben-Shema. You said to Eden:
I guess you, too, believe that angels have wings!
Eden here:
Yes I do. The cherubim which overarched the ark in the Holy of Holise of the tribe of Israel had wings:
Exodus 25:20
And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be.
And Ezekiel saw beings with wings:
Ezekiel 1:5-7 (King James Version)
5 Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.
6 And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.
7 And their feet were straight feet; and the sole of their feet was like the sole of a calf's foot: and they sparkled like the colour of burnished brass.
Jesus came from above and is NOT from this earth: Jesus said he was from above, and that we are from below. Indeed, Jesus came from a Holy Spirit-made fertilized egg which was planted in Miriam (Mary).
Luke 1
26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,
27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.
28 And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
29 And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.
30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Jesus is the Son of God who was dead, buried, and rose again and ascended from Bethany out of the disciples sight, and is now seated at the right hand of the Father until the Father has made His enemies His footstool.
When Jesus comes again, He does not come as a suffering servant but as King to take over the nations and rule them from Jerusalem.
John 7:31
And many of the people believed on him and said, When Christ comes, will he do more miracles than these which this man has done?
For Moses had said:
Deuteronomy 18
15 The LORD your God will raise up unto you a Prophet from the midst of you, of your brethren, like me; to him shall you listen.
And in Jesus’s time that scripture was again referred to:
Acts 3
22 For Moses truly said to the fathers, A prophet shall the LORD your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like me; him shall you hear in all things whatsoever he shall say to you.
Psalm 2
12 Kiss the Son, lest He be angry with you, and you perish from the way, when His wrath is kindled but a little.
Save yourself before it is too late.
Be blessed, A. Ben-Shema.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Caretaker:
[QB] There is NOT ONE here who will in any way accept your doctrines/visions of demons, Abomination Ben-Shema. You bring NOTHING BUT ABOMINATION, and no Believer will ever accept the lies and deceit which you teach.
Ben-Shema:
You exaggerate somewhat (perhaps even hallucinate?)- NOT ONE? And they are not my doctrines, but come from the God of Love (who you do not seem to know).
Caretaker:
Jesus arose from the dead, was seen by some 500 witnesses, and ascended and is coming again, and this time He is NOT coming as the Lamb of God, but as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah and your master is headed straight to the Lake of Fire just like yourself unless you repent and turn to Christ.
Ben-Shema:
Well said, but, I'm afraid, you're still talking nonsense from satan.
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There is NOT ONE here who will in any way accept your doctrines/visions of demons, Abomination Ben-Shema. You bring NOTHING BUT ABOMINATION, and no Believer will ever accept the lies and deceit which you teach.
Jesus arose from the dead, was seen by some 500 witnesses, and ascended and is coming again, and this time He is NOT coming as the Lamb of God, but as the Lion of the Tribe of Judah and your master is headed straight to the Lake of Fire just like yourself unless you repent and turn to Christ.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Eden:
Jesus wasn’t just any “Master”, Jesus was the Son of God from another planet, Jesus was NOT an earthling.
Ben-Shema:
Oh!!! Which planet was Jesus from? Don't tell me he was a Martian. Do you also believe in UFO's?
Let me tell you something. Originally, in traditional Israelite thought, angels (messengers of God) were simply Divinely Inspired human beings, thus they could easily be mistaken for ‘ordinary’ men (cf. HEB.13:2). Later, it was believed (by the uninitiated, who thought that Heaven/God is somewhere up in the sky) that these messengers from God would have to traverse to and from Heaven by the use of “ladders”/”stairs” (GEN.28:12). After the period of Israel's Babylonian exile (BC 597-538), Jewish thought about angels was considerably altered. Drawing on Mesopotamian beliefs, writers began to provide “wings,” even for the anthropomorphic angels. An example of complete ignorance, which still persists amongst many.
I guess you, too, believe that angels have wings!
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Hi, A. Ben-Shema. You said:
WHY DIDN’T JESUS WRITE ‘THE’ GOSPEL?
As there are so many arguments, and so much confusion regarding the four canonical gospels.
Eden here:
Uhh, exuse me, there are NOT MANY arguments and there is NOT MUCH confusion regarding the four canonical gospels.
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(i.e the many apparent contradictions or differences, etc.), then why didn’t Jesus himself write the definite and undisputable book?
Eden here:
Jesus is graciously using sinful human beings to write the Book FOR Him Who is Great (meaning, Jesus of Nazareth).
Jesus said that He would send the Holy Spirit who would BRING ALL THINGS TO YOUR REMEMBRANCE, and, as said to Ezekiel before them, He said, "write these things", and they did.
Think of it. Sinful Adamic flesh writing the Book Which Saves for the Living God of the whole earth, so that "enough was written that men could be saved thereby".
If He intended us to base all our beliefs about Him from the words of any book, then surely He would have written it Himself! Or perhaps He wished us to argue and dispute over our faith?
Eden here:
Actually, Jesus DID write the books Himself. Jesus wasn’t just any “Master”, Jesus was the Son of God from another planet, Jesus was NOT an earthling. Where are YOUR Masters coming from?
Jesus uses the Holy Spirit to tell those who believe that He is the Only Begotten Son of God of the tribe of Jacob-Israel who should be born in Israel at Bethlehem of Judah, and NOWHERE ELSE.
Not just ANYWHERE! ONLY in Bethlehem of the tribe of the land of Jacob-Israel-JUDAH was Jesus to be born, in Bethlehem of Judah and NOWHERE else.
And THIS Jesus also had to be BORN ONLY in the tribe of Judah and in the family of Judah-Jesse-David.
And further, according to Isaiah 53, this Jesus also must die on a tree, which the Romans fulfilled on behalf of God.
Moses said that the day would come that One like Moses (i.e., one who did miracles like Moses) would come, and He was the One we had to believe in, HE was the Son of God of Psalm 2:12.
Gnostic, shmostic, my A. Ben-Shema. Your problem is that you do not yet believe that Jesus of Nazareth (“Can any good come out of Galilee?”) WAS the Son of God of Micah 5:2 and Isaiah 53, who was born, by a quirk census ordered by Ceasar Augustus census, Joseph and PREGNANT Miriam of Narareth went to BETHLEHEM of Jaco-Israel JUDAH, because of the quirk of census, Joseph and PREGNANT Miriam made their way to their ancestral family of David in Bethlehem where JESUS WAS also BORN, hello, is that not true?
Jesus is the King of Israel who is to rule the nations from Jerusalem. Kiss the Son, lest He be angry with you (Psalm 2:12)
"When the Messiah comes, will He do more miracles than This Man does?"
Be blessed, and believe in Jesus as THE Son of God.
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I would like to add: considering that Jesus, and all His contemporary disciples, spoke Aramaic (I exclude Paul - he was not a contemporary 'disciple'), why do we have absolutely no NT texts (even copies) in this language? All the most ancient extant manuscripts of NT are in Greek! Therefore various unknown people at some unknown time must have translated them (or else they were not written by Jesus' contemporary disciples). Thus we are now solely at the mercy of how (SPIRIUALLY) accurate these translations were! Even today's vast variety of English translations are Spiritually poor! The best and most knowledgeable translators, if they are not Spiritually WISE (i.e. have true GNOSIS), will never be able to produce an accurate Spiritual translation!!!
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Ben-Shema:
Yes, I fully agree with you. Indeed, He WAS the gospel. He WAS the living Word. But that was 2,000 years ago, and Jesus is now dead. We now have to find a living Master!
That's where your wrong. He is alive, and well!
You can only know this through revelation, and your heart of stone will not allow it.
The word says if you seek Me you will find Me, but your not seeking and that's why your not finding.
The only seeking your doing is to disprove the Lord, and that will only be a stummbling block for you.
I pray that you will seek the Lord for who He is and not for who you say He is.
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Ben-Shema:
Yes, I fully agree with you. Indeed, He WAS the gospel. He WAS the living Word. But that was 2,000 years ago, and Jesus is now dead. We now have to find a living Master!
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Reject Jesus and the only "master" you will find is the god of this world.
You have absolutely NOTHING to offer to any Believer!!
Jesus is Risen!!!!!
John 20:
24: But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
25: The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.
26: And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
27: Then saith he to Thomas, reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
28: And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
29: Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
30: And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
31: But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.
Acts 1:
1: The former treatise have I made, O Theophilus, of all that Jesus began both to do and teach,
2: Until the day in which he was taken up, after that he through the Holy Ghost had given commandments unto the apostles whom he had chosen:
3: To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days, and speaking of the things pertaining to the kingdom of God:
4: And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
5: For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
6: When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
7: And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8: But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9: And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10: And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11: Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
The tomb is empty, Jesus is raised from the dead, after three days, seen of over 500 witnesses, ascended and seated at the right hand of the Father, and coming again in power and glory.
We have a living Savior, who will reign as King of Kings and Lord of Lords!!!
Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life!!!!!
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A. Ben-Shema,
You asked why Jesus didn't write the gospel Himself, I'll tell you why, it's because He was the gospel.
He was the living word.
Your friend, Chuck
Ben-Shema:
Yes, I fully agree with you. Indeed, He WAS the gospel. He WAS the living Word. But that was 2,000 years ago, and Jesus is now dead. We now have to find a living Master!
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Originally posted by A. Ben-Shema:
WHY DIDN’T JESUS WRITE ‘THE’ GOSPEL?
As there are so many arguments, and so much confusion regarding the four canonical gospels (i.e the many apparent contradictions or differences, etc.), then why didn’t Jesus himself write the definite and undisputable book? If He intended us to base all our beliefs about Him from the words of any book, then surely He would have written it Himself! Or perhaps He wished us to argue and dispute over our faith?
Easy - he was too busy doing what he had to - fulfilling the scripture and being crucified for our sins. To write this down as well would have been impossible.
The reason for arguments about the meaning of scripture is that humans are falliable - our ability to understand is not perfect and absolute therefore we are unable to perfectly undertand scripture.
Differences in the nuances of scripture arise out of this. Big differences come as a result of our sinful nature.
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A. Ben-Shema,
You asked why Jesus didn't write the gospel Himself, I'll tell you why, it's because He was the gospel.
He was the living word.
He IS the gospel!
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A. Ben-Shema,
You asked why Jesus didn't write the gospel Himself, I'll tell you why, it's because He was the gospel.
He was the living word.
Your friend, Chuck
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2Cor.3
[1] Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?
[2] Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
[3] Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
[4] And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
[5] Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
[6] Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
Now stop your sillyness,
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You can keep repeating your pablum till the cows come home and not one Believer will ever receive the counterfeit religion of the Gnostic.
Jesus warned about such false teachers as the poison-bearers of the Gnostic cults.
It is either God's WAY through Christ Jesus or the broadway which leadeth to destruction.
Matt. 7:
13: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
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When Jesus was here on earth he tried to explain the Truth to many people. However, the majority of people simply rejected His teachings. It was notably the "religious" people who hated Him most, and eventually succeeded in having Him killed.
The various "christian" churches, throughout their history (except for the Gnostics), right up to a few centuries ago, have persecuted and murdered many people for not having so-called 'orthodox' beliefs! Some Muslims are still doing this today. When will these religionists realise their evil? Yes, and that goes for all the multitude of blind Pharisees and Sadducees who are still around us today!
If you do not KNOW and EXPERIENCE the True, Holy, Ineffable, Unspeakable, Eternal, Sacred, "NAME" of GOD (and it is NOT in any human alphabet, language, or dialect e.g. "J E S U S"!) - the Name of POWER that Jesus spoke of and revealed to the few sincere disciples - then you KNOW NOTHING WORTHWHILE.
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Repent of your false teachings Gnostic. Turn to Christ Jesus for He is the only hope for your eternal soul. Without Jesus you stand condemned as guilty before the Throne of God, and are without excuse.
Jesus is your only hope of salvation!!
Only in the Blood of Christ can your sins be forgiven, your shackles be broken, and you be set free.
The Apostle John wrote against the poison of the Gnostics, and no Believer today will be deceived by doctrines of demons, and counterfeit deception.
1 John 5:
11: And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
12: He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
13: These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
14: And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
15: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.
16: If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
17: All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.
18: We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
19: And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
20: And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
21: Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
He that hath not the Son of God HATH NOT LIFE!!!!!
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When Jesus was here on earth he tried to explain the Truth to many people. However, the majority of people simply rejected His teachings. It was notably the "religious" people who hated Him most, and eventually succeeded in having Him killed.
The various "christian" churches, throught their history (except for the Gnostics), right up to a couple of centuries ago, have persecuted and murdered many people for not having so-called 'orthodox' beliefs! Some Muslims are still doing this today. When will these religionists realise their evil? Yes, and that goes for all the multitude of blind Pharisees and Sadducees who are still around us today!
If you do not KNOW and EXPERIENCE the True, Holy, Ineffable, Unspeakable, Eternal, Sacred, "NAME" of GOD (and it is NOT in any human alphabet, language, or dialect e.g. "J E S U S"!) - the Name of POWER that Jesus spoke of and revealed to the few sincere disciples - then you KNOW NOTHING WORTHWHILE.
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The Gnostic writes:
"When Jesus was here on earth he tried to explain the Truth to many people. However, the majority of people simply rejected His teachings. It was notably the "religious" people who hated Him most, and eventually succeeded in having Him killed.
The various "christian" churches, throught their history (except for the Gnostics), right up to a couple of centuries ago, have persecuted and murdered many people for not having so-called 'orthodox' beliefs! Some Muslims are still doing this today. When will these religionists realise their evil? Yes, and that goes for all the multitude of blind Pharisees and Sadducees who are still around us today!
If you do not KNOW and EXPERIENCE the True, Holy, Ineffable, Unspeakable, Eternal, Sacred, "NAME" of GOD (and it is NOT in any human alphabet, language, or dialect!) - the Name of POWER that Jesus spoke of and revealed to the few sincere disciples - then you KNOW NOTHING WORTHWHILE."
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Caretaker:
Romans 3:10-12
As it is written: "There is none
righteous, no, not one; There is none
who understands; There is none who
seeks after God. They have all turned
aside; They have together become
unprofitable; There is none who does
good, no, not one."
Romans 3:23
For all have sinned and fall short of the
glory of God
Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as through one man sin
entered the world, and death through
sin, and thus death spread to all men,
because all sinned
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the
gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus
our Lord.
Romans 5:8
But God demonstrates His own love
toward us, in that while we were still
sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 10:8-11
But what does it say? "The word is
near you, in your mouth and in your
heart" (that is, the word of faith which
we preach): that if you confess with
your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe
in your heart that God has raised Him
from the dead, you will be saved. For
with the heart one believes unto
righteousness, and with the mouth
confession is made unto salvation. For
the Scripture says, "Whoever believes
on Him will not be put to shame."
Romans 2:4
Or do you despise the riches of His
goodness, forbearance, and
longsuffering, not knowing that the
goodness of God leads you to
repentance?
Romans 6:3-7
Or do you not know that as many of us
as were baptized into Christ Jesus were
baptized into His death? Therefore we
were buried with Him through baptism
into death, that just as Christ was raised
from the dead by the glory of the
Father, even so we also should walk in
newness of life. For if we have been
united together in the likeness of His
death, certainly we also shall be in the
likeness of His resurrection, knowing
this, that our old man was crucified
with Him, that the body of sin might be
done away with, that we should no
longer be slaves of sin. For he who has
died has been freed from sin.
Romans 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
We must admit that we are a sinner:
Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Be willing to turn from sin (repent):
Acts 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:
Believe that Jesus Christ died for you, was buried and rose from the dead Romans 10:9-10
Jesus revealed Himself as God manbifest in the flesh, "Before Abraham was I Am", "I and my Father are one". God was manifest in the flesh, and a multitude down through the ages have rejected the Word who was made flesh and dwelt among us, the Only Way, Only Truth, Only Life.
The anti-Christs, such as the Gnostics have followed doctrines of demons, just as the Muslims, Hindus, Buddists, and all other Christ denying false man-made religions.
God reveled Himself and established the Way, and 120 Believers were gathered in the Upper Room when Christ sent the Comforter to indwell His Church, and 3000 came to Christ in one day.
Not one Believer will receive what you bring, for a Believer will not be deceived by that which is counterfeit.
The Believer stands for God, and follows God manifest in the flesh, our Lord and our God, Jesus the Messiah.
The god of this world is transformed into an angel of light for those who reject Christ, and it is from the deceiver that the spirit of anti-Christ originates in the false experiential, and doctrines of demons. The source of Gnosticism.
Christian Doctrine
A. The Scriptures
We believe that the Scriptures, both Old and New Testaments, are the
inspired Word of God and are therefore without error in the original writings.
We further believe that this inspiration is not in different degrees, but extends
equally and fully to all parts of the Bible: historical, poetical, doctrinal and
prophetical. We, therefore, believe in the absolute authority of the Bible in all
matters of faith and practice. John 10:35; II Timothy 3:16, 17; II Peter 1:21.
B. The True God
We believe in one living and true God who is the Creator of heaven and earth;
who is eternal, almighty, unchangeable, infinitely powerful, wise, just and
holy.
We believe that the one God eternally exists in three Persons: the Father, the
Son, and the Holy Spirit; and that these three are one God, co-equal and
co-eternal, having precisely the same nature and attributes, and worthy of
precisely the same worship, confidence, and obedience. Matthew 3:16, 17;
Matthew 28:19, 20; Mark 12:29; John 1:14; Acts 5:3, 4; II Corinthians 13:14.
C. God the Father
We believe in God the Father, Creator and Sustainer of all things, perfect in
holiness, wisdom, power and love. We believe that He concerns Himself
mercifully in the affairs of men; that He hears and answers prayer; that He
sent His Son into the world; that He saves from sin and death all who come
to Him through His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. Genesis 1:1; Psalms 7:9;
Matthew 5:48; John 3:16; Acts 13:17-25; Acts 14:15-17; Acts 17:24-28.
D. The Person and Work of Jesus Christ
We believe in the deity of Jesus Christ, that He was conceived of the Holy
Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary, lived a sinless life, and is fully God and fully
Man. We believe that our redemption has been accomplished solely by the
blood of our Lord Jesus Christ, who was made to be sin, and made a curse for
us, dying in our place that we might be forgiven. We believe that He died not
only for our sins, but also for the sins of the entire world. We believe that He
was raised from the dead in bodily form and that He ascended into heaven,
where He sits at the right hand of God the Father interceding for us.
We believe in the personal, bodily, imminent and pre-millennial return of our
Lord Jesus Christ for His Church and His subsequent millennial reign over
restored Israel and the kingdoms of the world. Luke 1:30-35; 2:7; John 1:1-4;
Romans 9-11; Philippians 2:5-11; Colossians 1:13-19; Hebrews 1:1-3; I Peter
3:18; I Corinthians 15:3-7; Hebrews 7:25; Acts 1:11, 15:14-17; I
Thessalonians 4:13-18; I John 2:2.
E. The Holy Spirit
We believe that the Holy Spirit is not merely an influence, but a divine Person;
that He is the source and power of all acceptable worship and service and is
our abiding Counselor and Helper. We believe that the baptism of the Holy
Spirit occurs at the moment of conversion and is that act whereby believers
are united with Christ as part of His body; that the Holy Spirit permanently
indwells all believers in Christ; that He will never depart from the Church nor
from the weakest believer; that by His indwelling the believer is enabled to
live a godly life. John 14:16,17; 16:13-15; Acts 1:8; 5:3,4; Romans 8:9; I
Corinthians 6:19; 12:13; Galatians 5:22,23.
F. The Fall of Man
We believe that man, although created as an innocent being in the image of
God, fell from his high and holy estate through Adam's act of disobedience. As
a result, sin entered the human race, leaving mankind subject to the wrath of
God, spiritually dead, inherently corrupt, and incapable of pleasing God apart
from a work of divine grace. Thus all men are hopelessly lost apart from the
salvation which is in the Lord Jesus Christ. Genesis 1:27; 3:6-24; Romans
5:12, 19; Ephesians 2:13; Romans 3:8-18.
G. The Way of Salvation
We believe that, due to universal death through sin, no one can enter the
kingdom of God unless born again; that salvation is only by grace through
faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ, and that all who receive the Lord
Jesus Christ through faith are declared righteous by God and thereby become
children of God.
We believe the Scriptures teach that regeneration, or the new birth, is that
act of God by which the Holy Spirit imparts a new nature and a new spiritual
life, not before possessed, and the person becomes a new creation in Christ
Jesus. The mind is given a holy disposition and a new desire to serve God, the
dominion of sin broken, and the heart transformed from a love of sin and self
to a love of holiness and God.
As the believer walks in the power of the Holy Spirit, these new realities
become evident in a life characterized by holiness, compassion and zeal.
Ephesians 2:1-10; John 14:6; Acts 4:12; Hebrews 9:22; John 3:1-18; II
Corinthians 5:17; I Peter 1:18, 19.
H. The Church
We believe the true Church of Jesus Christ had its historical beginning at
Pentecost, that it is composed of all true believers in Jesus Christ, is the body
and bride of our Lord, and is distinct from Israel.
We believe that since there is spiritual unity of all believers in Jesus Christ, it
is our duty to love one another fervently, endeavoring at all times to keep the
unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
We believe that the purpose of the church in the world is to glorify God
through worship, prayer, teaching of the Word, observance of the ordinances,
fellowship, the exercise of our gifts and talents, and the proclamation of the
gospel both in our community and throughout the world. Acts 2:1, 41-47;
Romans 12:5; I Corinthians 12:12, 13; I Corinthians 10:32; Ephesians 1:22,
23; 4:3-6; Colossians 1:18; Colossians 3:14-15.
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When Jesus was here on earth he tried to explain the Truth to many people. However, the majority of people simply rejected His teachings. It was notably the "religious" people who hated Him most, and eventually succeeded in having Him killed.
The various "christian" churches, throught their history (except for the Gnostics), right up to a couple of centuries ago, have persecuted and murdered many people for not having so-called 'orthodox' beliefs! Some Muslims are still doing this today. When will these religionists realise their evil? Yes, and that goes for all the multitude of blind Pharisees and Sadducees who are still around us today!
If you do not KNOW and EXPERIENCE the True, Holy, Ineffable, Unspeakable, Eternal, Sacred, "NAME" of GOD (and it is NOT in any human alphabet, language, or dialect e.g. "J E S U S"!) - the Name of POWER that Jesus spoke of and revealed to the few sincere disciples - then you KNOW NOTHING WORTHWHILE.
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When Jesus was here on earth he tried to explain the Truth to many people. However, the majority of people simply rejected His teachings. It was notably the "religious" people who hated Him most, and eventually succeeded in having Him killed.
The various "christian" churches, throught their history (except for the Gnostics), right up to a couple of centuries ago, have persecuted and murdered many people for not having so-called 'orthodox' beliefs! Some Muslims are still doing this today. When will these religionists realise their evil? Yes, and that goes for all the multitude of blind Pharisees and Sadducees who are still around us today!
If you do not KNOW and EXPERIENCE the True, Holy, Ineffable, Unspeakable, Eternal, Sacred, "NAME" of GOD (and it is NOT in any human alphabet, language, or dialect e.g. "J E S U S"!) - the Name of POWER that Jesus spoke of and revealed to the few sincere disciples - then you KNOW NOTHING WORTHWHILE.
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When Jesus was here on earth he tried to explain the Truth to many people. However, the majority of people simply rejected His teachings. It was notably the "religious" people who hated Him most, and eventually succeeded in having Him killed.
The various "christian" churches, throught their history (except for the Gnostics), right up to a couple of centuries ago, have persecuted and murdered many people for not having so-called 'orthodox' beliefs! Some Muslims are still doing this today. When will these religionists realise their evil? Yes, and that goes for all the multitude of blind Pharisees and Sadducees who are still around us today!
If you do not KNOW and EXPERIENCE the True, Holy, Ineffable, Unspeakable, Eternal, Sacred, "NAME" of GOD (and it is NOT in any human alphabet, language, or dialect!) - the Name of POWER that Jesus spoke of and revealed to the few sincere disciples - then you KNOW NOTHING WORTHWHILE.
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Jesus did provide the revelation, the inspiration, and the very source of truth for His Word, from Genesis to Revelation.
There are those who will open their hearts and receive Christ, and there are those who reject the only salvation which the LORD GOD has provided.
John 14:
16: And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17: Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18: I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
19: Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
20: At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
21: He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
22: Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?
23: Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24: He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
25: These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
26: But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Only those lost in rebellion and sin, who have rejected the Lord Jesus Christ, reject the very Word which He Himself has inspired through those He Himself has called-out and chosen.
Reject Christ and you stand condemned already:
John 3:
18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Receive Christ Jesus and you are redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb of God, our Passover Lamb, our Redeemer, our Lord of Lords and King of Kings, the very God manifest in the flesh and sacrificing Himself for each of our sins. He can be your Reddemer, but one must open their heart to Him.
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Aaron, two men went out and purchased expensive, diamond engagement rings for their brides-to-be. The first girl exclaimed with joy, "It's perfect!" The second took the diamond and examined it under a powerful microscope and exclaimed, "I won't accept it; I saw a microscopic flaw!"
So tell me, Aaron, which of the women had the right attitude toward her future husband? (And to which kind of woman would you prefer to marry?)
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WHY DIDN’T JESUS WRITE ‘THE’ GOSPEL?
As there are so many arguments, and so much confusion regarding the four canonical gospels (i.e the many apparent contradictions or differences, etc.), then why didn’t Jesus himself write the definite and undisputable book? If He intended us to base all our beliefs about Him from the words of any book, then surely He would have written it Himself! Or perhaps He wished us to argue and dispute over our faith?
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