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epouraniois
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Good morning,
All rule and authority is not being put down right now. Satan is busy setting up his kingdom, as it is written, the false Jesus will come first to deceive the whole world.
Those final, rather, farthest reaching verses, 'then cometh the end...God shall be all in all' do not come until after the rebellion after the 1,000 years of teaching, and many more things written that will have needs to of taken place...
Heb 2:8
Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing [that is] not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.
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dear epouraniois, I wanted to ask you about this part if I may for a moment quote:
1Co 15:24 Then comes the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
who do you think is putting down all rule right now, the Father or the Lord Jesus?
who do you think "he" is in the phrase, "when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power"? the Father YHWH or the Lord Yahshua-Jesus.
thank you. anyone can answer if so wanted.
the LORD YHWH of Israel bless us all, I am BORN AGAIN in the USA
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7 Steps Down - 7 Steps Up
This study is based upon the fact that there is only one Lord and Father creator of the ages and that one Lord is Christ.
These are the verses we will be looking at:
Phi 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
Phi 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Phi 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
(there is no ‘and’ in the Greek, the verse does not speak of two things, rather an explanation)
Phi 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
‘Being in the form of God’, He begins His step down from Glory:
He made himself of no reputation –1
Taking upon Himself the form of a slave –2
Being made in the likeness of men: -3
And being found in fashion as a man –4
He humbled himself –5
And became obedient unto death –6
Even the death of the cross, the death of a slave –7
Phi 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Phi 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Phi 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
We find 7 steps back up to Glory: Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him:::
Given him a name which is above every name –1
(Not just any name, but thee Name, which is above every name, which is YHVH, or Jehovah)
That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow –2
Of things in heaven –3
And things in earth –4
And things under the earth –5
And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord –6
(Finally, His image finally returns to God the Father so that God is again, all in all)
To the glory of God the Father –7
1Co 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
1Co 15:25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.
1Co 15:27 For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is excepted, which did put all things under him.
1Co 15:28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
‘Who, being in the form of God’:
The word ‘become’, isn’t nearly strong enough. The Greek says, existing, that is, 'existing originally'. The HS keeps the laws of grammar; He is trying to convey a certain meaning to us. The tense in the verb here is what we call the imperfect participle; giving us the meaning: indefinite continuance of being, existing all along it says, in the form of God. This is much stronger than just being. Existing all along without a break, in whatever the form of God means.
Well, what does the form of God mean? Does it just mean shape? Lets translate it like that:
Who, existing originally in the shape of God. Well, what shape does God have? Well, we must start at the beginning, because we are finite, but that isn’t where God started, because He doesn’t have a beginning, but, going back as far as we can go back, what shape did God have? He didn’t have one, because He is essentially Spirit. And if we worship Him, we must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth. What shape does Spirit have? He has no shape, He hasn’t got one.
So, the all wise and loving God, explains to us what He means, and tells us He is taking upon Himself the form of a slave. Well, can we insert the word ‘shape’ here? He takes upon Himself the shape of a slave. What is the shape of a slave? If we have 2 men standing there, and one was an employer and one a servant, would the servant have a different shape than his master? We must get away from our ideas of inserting the word shape in our mind; that’s not the meaning of ‘form’.
What was the position of a slave in Paul’s day? Well, we must admit, a slave had no position. He had nothing. He had no rights whatsoever. He had no possessions that were his. His very life wasn’t his. He belonged, we can say, body and soul to his master. His master could do anything to him, and that is the status of a slave.
And that is the meaning of this word ‘form’. It is the internal essence of status. Lets go back to the verse:
Existing originally in the status of God; all that God was, potentially. There is no thought of shape or size in this word 'form'. So the Lord Jesus Christ was all the fullness of God, bodily.
There are so many today who deny His deity, and this is one of the Christian fundamentals of the Christian faith. If we go wrong here, we should go wrong everywhere, in fact, we should cut the very ground of salvation from under our feet, because the Bible makes it perfectly clear that no man can redeem his brother. You can’t have any man or any created being to be a savior.
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