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LaurieFL
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Judgement is coming, so true. I look forward to living in the righteous and perfect Kingdom of my Lord, as soon as He is willing!
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Love you, Laurie… ![[spiny]](graemlins/spiny.gif)
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I find it fascinating, Itty bitty girl, that you believe this nation is a Christian one.
Um, Laurie…When I said that this nation was a Christian one…what I meant was, it’s major religion is Christianity. The major religion of the United States of America is Christianity…
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Do your parents let you out of the house much? Have you met any Americas? I don't know very many people in this nation who I would believe are genuinely saved. Many go to chruch and say they are Christians, but they don't pray, read their Bibles, and wouldn't know Jesus if He walked up and shook their hand probably.
I go to school, I look on the streets, and I see plenty of Americans…but the religion do not change, the hypocrites say they are Christians, so to the world, they count too...They blend in with us.
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They are too busy doing tons of extracurricular activities for their kids, buying new cars, new houses, getting ahead at their jobs, playing golf, worrying about earthly politics, making themselves of greater reputation, watching movies, watching and reading porn, having sex outside of marriage, drinking and eating to be bothered with the realm of the spiritual.
True, true…That’z how hypocrites roll…
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I have lived all over this country and that is the America I see.
I don’t have to go that far, it’s all around over here where I stay…
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Marriage has been a joke to this country for decades. Ever since prayer was removed from schools, I believe God has allowed this nation to fall into a state of moral decay unrivaled since the Roamn Empire.
Satan is the “prince of this world”...Those hypocrites will be a thing of the past…God will sort them all out, and they’ll pay for what they done…
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I find it fascinating, Itty bitty girl, that you believe this nation is a Christian one. Do your parents let you out of the house much? Have you met any Americas? I don't know very many people in this nation who I would believe are genuinely saved. Many go to chruch and say they are Christians, but they don't pray, read their Bibles, and wouldn't know Jesus if He walked up and shook their hand probably.
They are too busy doing tons of extracurricular activities for their kids, buying new cars, new houses, getting ahead at their jobs, playing golf, worrying about earthly politics, making themselves of greater reputation, watching movies, watching and reading porn, having sex outside of marriage, drinking and eating to be bothered with the realm of the spiritual.
I have lived all over this country and that is the America I see.
Marriage has been a joke to this country for decades. Ever since prayer was removed from schools, I believe God has allowed this nation to fall into a state of moral decay unrivaled since the Roamn Empire.
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Originally posted by din_na2004:
[QB] Greetings Itty-Bitty Girl,
[QUOTE] I don’t care what those gays think; I know their ulterior motive…
I trust in God, and He says that homosexuality is an abomination, so those gays are headed straight for hell with gasoline drawers on…
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Do you really believe that this is a Christian attitude?
Yes I do, I know God’s Word and what He says goes….period.
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Everything quoted on this thread has been written in the OT. I believe that only one covenant Mt 26:28 should determine our lives.
Okay…
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Homosexuals, murders, thieves, a person who tells a lie, is all the same in GOD’s presence, we are all sinners.
Okay…
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When Christ died for our sins he didn’t die for only a select number of chosen sins, he died for every sin.
Okay…
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If a gay person decides to find salvation and gives up his sinful ways is he or she not accepted by GOD?
If the person also is no longer gay, he or she is accepted by God…
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Think about your attitude and how non-Christians would perceive it (We were chosen to be the light of this world).
What attitude?
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Imagine you being in a room with 10 people (all non-Christians), one of them happens to be gay, you approach him and say “GOD hates you and you’re going to hell”. Do you think those 9 others would be interested in becoming a Christian?
Of course not, and this is a bad example if you're trying to get at me. Never on any occasion have I ever said or implied that God hated anyone…but if you do not get saved, if you do not live for Jesus, if you do not carry out the will of the Father, you will perish, and that’s straight from the Bible.
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Nowhere does Christ tell us to hate sinners but we should hate sin.
Nowhere have I said that I hated sinners…what are you trying to say?
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Itty-Bitty, whether you know it or not we are GOD’s soldiers and we are at war. The war is over the souls of every person on this planet.
Look, I know this already, okay?
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Through the Great Commission we have been chosen to recruit every nation on the planet to GOD’s army.
Okay…
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When we say things like “those gays are headed straight to hell” we are giving those souls away.
Gays can’t get into heaven, I’m right by saying, “those gays are headed straight to hell.”
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It is our sin too if we do nothing and stand idly by and watch others lose the chance for salvation.
What? So you think that I wouldn’t make an effort to get the gays saved so that they wouldn’t be gay anymore, enabling them live a life dedicated to the Lord Jesus? Well then, din_na2004, you don’t really know me that well.
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Sorry Danny, I missed your other question, by the way Danny, my name is Yul, nice to meet you.
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Do you even talk about them being gay as sinful with them?
I do, my relationship with every one of my non-Christian friends is very solid so I can say anything to them. In the beginning it was harder talking about salvation to a gay person than it was to a drug addict or an alcoholic but as time passed I realized there really was no difference. I think society (non-Christians and even some people who think they are Christians), as a majority, believes that drug users and alcoholics can change if they want too but homosexuals can’t because they are born that way. As a Christian, it is impossible to believe that a person is born gay, that would mean GOD created them that way, which we know is false. Homosexuality is a choice, and like all other sins can be stopped by being saved. So in the same manner that I talk to any non-Christians, I talk to my friends who happen to be gay in the same manner.
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Greetings Itty-Bitty Girl,
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I don’t care what those gays think; I know their ulterior motive…
I trust in God, and He says that homosexuality is an abomination, so those gays are headed straight for hell with gasoline drawers on…
Do you really believe that this is a Christian attitude? Everything quoted on this thread has been written in the OT. I believe that only one covenant Mt 26:28 should determine our lives.
Homosexuals, murders, thieves, a person who tells a lie, is all the same in GOD’s presence, we are all sinners. When Christ died for our sins he didn’t die for only a select number of chosen sins, he died for every sin. If a gay person decides to find salvation and gives up his sinful ways is he or she not accepted by GOD? Think about your attitude and how non-Christians would perceive it (We were chosen to be the light of this world). Imagine you being in a room with 10 people (all non-Christians), one of them happens to be gay, you approach him and say “GOD hates you and you’re going to hell”. Do you think those 9 others would be interested in becoming a Christian? Nowhere does Christ tell us to hate sinners but we should hate sin.
Itty-Bitty, whether you know it or not we are GOD’s soldiers and we are at war. The war is over the souls of every person on this planet. Through the Great Commission we have been chosen to recruit every nation on the planet to GOD’s army. When we say things like “those gays are headed straight to hell” we are giving those souls away. It is our sin too if we do nothing and stand idly by and watch others lose the chance for salvation.
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Greetings Danny,
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Out of curiosity... do you treat your gay friends differently than your other non-Christian friends?
I treat my non-Christian and gay friends better than Christian friends. Funny you asked me that, you made me remember a conversation I had with a Christian friend about a year ago. He asked me why I do not see them as much. I remember telling him that the best memories that I have is of fellowship every Friday. As much as I love my Christian friends I know the 40 or so years that I have left will be nothing compared to eternity with them in our Father’s Kingdom. I know a seat has been reserved for me and my Christian friends at my Father’s table and I think it would be great if I could have a few more friends join me.
The only time I interact with Christians is at church. The rest of the time I spend it with non-believers (gay, drug users, alcoholics and one women who practices the oldest profession). On many occasions other Christians have criticized me for associating with such sinful people. My only goal is to eventually bring them to Christ.
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But now I really don't see a person who lives the gay lifestyle as any different from any other non-Christian person.
I agree with you that sinners (you, me, homosexual, drug users, prostitutes, murders, everyone) are all the same. Because we are all the same, we must love not only Christians but also everyone. If I can stand here and claim to love everyone how can I stand idly by and do nothing about one’s salvation. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t go to bars with a bible in my hand and preach the gospel but I have no problem loving a non-Christian. Because of this I want them to find the LORD and spend eternity with us.
Mt 9:12 "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick"
As far as why Christians don’t agree with gay marriage or civil unions; such as, wrong example for our children, wrong in GOD’s eyes, financial benefits or whatever the reason. I have to disagree with them.
Why I believe gay marriage and civil unions are wrong, thousands of sinners will never change their lifestyle and will never be admitted to our Father’s Kingdom.
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yeshuaslavejeff said: quote:
remember Scripture:in homocities sodom.gom. Lot was sorely vexed(almost driven out of his mind)by their sin, because he was righteous - others, not righteous, wouldn't care nor worry nor be vexed.
nothing diverse from a pervert/abomination is worth considering or thinking about - it comes from the pit - to deceive, kill, steal, destroy[truth] –
the truth is so hard to see, for instance :
QUOTE:posted April 22, 2005 05:40 PM Itty-Bitty Girl
True, but a gay marriage bill implies that we Christians condone such activities.
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+++Not so:not any more than a law in china or +++africa or russia. The roman law allowing +++crucifixion did not imply the christians +++condoned it.
That’s a bad example Jeff, this nation is a Judeo-Christian one, and to the other countries, it would appear that this Judeo-Christian nation condones gay activities, and how can we argue with a gay marriage law passed?
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This nation has a Christian majority,........ Don’t forget that the congress is for the people. END QUOTE.
answer; not so, if this country had a c.majority a lot of things would be extremely different, not just a little different. congress has not been for the people since before 1950, if not much earlier.
Jeff, what are you talking about? This is a Judeo-Christian nation, am I the first to tell you this? This country does have a Christian majority, but most Christians don’t get involved with politics, and the congress does represent the people, it was the people who elected them…
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this country does have a large church going population, but they(churches) will put to death true believers just for telling the truth.
Got any scripture to back that up, eh Jeff?
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(it is comfortable to believe otherwise:easy to think church goers are okay, to which Yeshua said "woe to you who are comfortable!"(you are going to be tormented) ) NT
Where at in NT, Jeff?
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Itty-Bitty-
A civil union bill doesnt imply that Christians condone gay activity. A gay marriage in a church would imply that. And that's not the issue here.
Where are the gays supposed to be married at then, and isn't a pastor to pronounce them husband and husband or wife and wife?
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The issue is about recruiting children? I think you may be a bit paranoid on this one.
I’m not paranoid, the gays are trying to move in on the children…you can believe it or not.
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I have a couple of close gay friends, and handful more I would consider aquantances...
Have you talked to them about Jesus…and did you tell them how wrong it was to be a gay person, did you tell them they are going to hell if they don’t get saved?
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I have never observed any recruitment attempts, nor have they ever said anything implying that.
Are you sure about that?
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Dont be fooled by a few outspoken gay activists, not every gay person is like that. Most aren't in fact.
And how do you know that? Can you speak for all the gays in the world?
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Most people who are in favor of civil unions are NOT gay.
Got any statistics to back that up, eh Danny?
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I think the last stat I've seen is that the population is roughly 2 -3% gay... (dont know how accurate that number is) but regardless, its not gay people that are getting these bills passed alone.
You are right, it’s the gays with the help of the many who oppose but remain silent on the issue…
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The principle of marriage is being ruined? With divorce rates around 40 - 50%, many married couples being unhappy, rates of adultery, etc... etc... I don't think this 'gay' thing is the main threat to marriage.
Oh yes it is…God set up the constitution of marriage, and gay marriage is definitely an oxymoron.
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I dont need the US government to ordain my marriage to give it meaning, that's between me, my wife to be, and God. I want to the US government to ordain my marriage so I gain the property and other domestic benifits.
God gives the marriage meaning, and gay marriage shole ain’t Biblical…
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"those gays" I try not to lump people together in to nice little boxes with labels.
Well I ain’t you…and I’m just stating facts, because “those” homosexuals are “gays.”
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There's much more diversity of opinion among "those gays" than you realize.
I don’t care what those gays think; I know their ulterior motive…
I trust in God, and He says that homosexuality is an abomination, so those gays are headed straight for hell with gasoline drawers on…
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Danny,
No where in my post did I suggest treating homosexuals disrespectful, but at the same time, I think making a law that acknowledges homosexual marriage, is putting a license on behavior the Bible says is a sin.
There is already a Professor at a prominent college that wrote a book saying child/ adult sex is acceptable. Believe me there is no end to what kinds of sin mankind will think is acceptable. But, God will be the true judge.
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Betty -
You don't believe all people are made in the image of God? Interesting, perhaps this could be a new thread... but regardless... I would say at least homosexuals are just as human as you or me and derserving of basic respect and dignity as humans... (not to be lumped together as 'those gays' or 'gays want to recruit your kids' etc... most Christians I know don't like when others lump all Christians together and make broad accusations, let's not do the same in return to others)
Perhaps you should have talked to the two gay people you knew about God, but do you see it as any different as any other unsaved person? But even if you didn't talk to them, perhaps your life was still an example to them. And often times a life and a example can be more effective than condemning people anyway. Condemning (even if its truth that's spoken) can push people further away from God and be a stumbling block to the cross.
And I haven't said a thing about giving homosexuals the idea that they will be going to heaven. What posts are you referring to there?
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First of all a homosexual was not made in the image of God, Adam and Eve were. The devil took the love of man for a woman and made it evil by putting evil desires in their heart. The devil hates God and has always sought to distort every thing God has made. The reason homosexual behavior is an insult to God, is it the opposite of what God created for men and women.
Have I had homosexuals as friends, yes years ago when I worked at the hospital, I knew a couple who worked at the hospital. I was at the time going through a personal crisis of my own and I had not learned how to speak out for God’s Word. I should have talked to these two men about God, but I was way too shy. These two men because they attended a Catholic Church that accepted them were sure they were going to Heaven. But, I could see their heart was not right. You say how can you see someone’s heart. The Bible says what a man speaks comes from the heart and one of them used God’s name in vain constantly. Unfortunately this man died before I could talk to him and his partner was fired from the hospital and I never saw him again.
Homosexual lifestyle is contrary to the Bible and we do no one a favor when we give them the false security that they can continue in a sinful life style and still see Heaven.
Do I believe in being hateful to people? No. Would I shout hateful words at them? No
But to give them false hope is not acceptable. We as Christians must go by the truth of God’s Word.
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Interesting response din_na... I'm definitely interested in your perspective as one that has gay friends. Many people live in ignorance about these 'sinful lifestyles'... the label 'gay' is terrifying and its easy to prevent yourself from getting to know these people. Who are people, made in the image of God, and deserving of basic respect... not being labeled by their sin.
Out of curiosity... do you treat your gay friends differently than your other non-Christian friends? Do you even talk about them being gay as sinful with them? I have a similar history as you I think. When I was a younger Christian, I had no problem telling people they were condemned due to their lifestyle. But now I really don't see a person who lives the gay lifestyle as any different from any other non-christian person. They are unique individual people. A potential friend. A person deserving respect. A person made in the image of God. They are not a group of people to fear... I'm curious to hear about your experiences about this...
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Greetings Danny,
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Why is this a big deal to you?
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1. Gay people are going to continue doing the same activities whether or not this law passes or not. The issue isn't about the legality of gay sex, its about benifits, property rights, etc...
You’re right gays will continue to have relationships but if they are saved that my change.
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2. The USA is not a Christian country. The Bible doesn't provide the laws, the congress and state legislatures do.
I have to disagree with you. I believe we are a Christian country. Christianity is the only religion that allows you to choose and live with free will. Muslim countries such as Iran, you have no choice. You have to follow the religion in your daily lives or suffer great consequences. Our country allows for freedom of religion but I believe the founding fathers of this country understood the concept of Christianity therefore couldn’t mandate Christianity as the official religion.
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3. Can you give one reason how this law will affect your life in any way at all?
I can only think of one reason. I live in San Francisco and have numerous gay friends and it breaks my heart that they will never be accepted into our Father’s kingdom. When I was a new Christian, I remember telling homosexuals that they are condemned but as I grew in my walk with the LORD, he opened my eyes. He showed me how to love, show compassion and have empathy for my fellow man. As a Christian, I believe it is my duty to love all Christians and non-Christians. And if I truly love non-Christians it is duty to bring them to Christ.
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remember Scripture:in homocities sodom.gom. Lot was sorely vexed(almost driven out of his mind)by their sin, because he was righteous - others, not righteous, wouldn't care nor worry nor be vexed.
nothing diverse from a pervert/abomination is worth considering or thinking about - it comes from the pit - to deceive, kill, steal, destroy[truth] -
the truth is so hard to see, for instance :
QUOTE:posted April 22, 2005 05:40 PM Itty-Bitty Girl
True, but a gay marriage bill implies that we Christians condone such activities.
END QUOTE.
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+++Not so:not any more than a law in china or +++africa or russia. The roman law allowing +++crucifixion did not imply the christians +++condoned it.
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This nation has a Christian majority,........ Don’t forget that the congress is for the people. END QUOTE.
answer; not so, if this country had a c.majority a lot of things would be extremely different, not just a little different. congress has not been for the people since before 1950, if not much earlier.
this country does have a large church going population, but they(churches) will put to death true believers just for telling the truth.
(it is comfortable to believe otherwise:easy to think church goers are okay, to which Yeshua said "woe to you who are comfortable!"(you are going to be tormented) ) NT
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Itty-Bitty-
A civil union bill doesnt imply that Christians condone gay activity. A gay marriage in a church would imply that. And that's not the issue here.
The issue is about recruiting children? I think you may be a bit paranoid on this one. I have a couple of close gay friends, and handful more I would consider aquantances... I have never observed any recruitment attempts, nor have they ever said anything implying that. Dont be fooled by a few outspoken gay activists, not every gay person is like that. Most aren't in fact.
Most people who are in favor of civil unions are NOT gay. I think the last stat I've seen is that the population is roughly 2 -3% gay... (dont know how accurate that number is) but regardless, its not gay people that are getting these bills passed alone.
The principle of marriage is being ruined? With divorce rates around 40 - 50%, many married couples being unhappy, rates of adultery, etc... etc... I don't think this 'gay' thing is the main threat to marriage. I dont need the US government to ordain my marriage to give it meaning, that's between me, my wife to be, and God. I want to the US government to ordain my marriage so I gain the property and other domestic benifits.
"those gays" I try not to lump people together in to nice little boxes with labels. There's much more diversity of opinion among "those gays" than you realize.
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1. Gay people are going to continue doing the same activities whether or not this law passes or not.
True, but a gay marriage bill implies that we Christians condone such activities.
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The issue isn't about the legality of gay sex, its about benifits, property rights, etc...
The issue is really about recruiting the children…
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2. The USA is not a Christian country. The Bible doesn't provide the laws, the congress and state legislatures do.
This nation has a Christian majority, that bill probably got passed because only a minority of Christians stood up and spoke out against it, so the majority of gays had the louder voice. Since the voices of the Christians could not be heard, the Congress got the message that Christians didn’t really care. Don’t forget that the congress is for the people.
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3. Can you give one reason how this law will affect your life in any way at all?
Oh, I got a few…the gays are trying to ruin the principle of marriage. Don't that bother you, Danny...
Marriage=Man and Woman. If we don’t stand up for God and speak out now, there’s no telling what’s next. Human and animal marriage could be next, maybe? Don't that bother you, Danny...
Gay marriage, now that’s an oxymoron. The gays want gay marriage to be considered as a usual thing, just as normal as a marriage between a man and woman, so that children can see being gay as a usual thing so that they may consider it. Do you want your children gay, Danny. Those gays aren’t fooling me…don’t let them fool you, Danny…
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Danny,
If Christians fought to make a sin legal, and gays were more open to us, how would we be helping them? How would it help them to tell them that their lifesyle will not keep them out of heaven, when that is a lie.
betty
Yes a gay can be saved, but to be saved you have to repent and turn from your sinful ways. You can not accept Jesus and then tell Him to accept your way or else.
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Let me see if I understand you correctly....
If something is sin, then it should be illegal?
Should we legally outlaw heterosexual sex before marriage?
If people are going to live in sin, that is between them and God, why the secular government should intervene to enforce religous principals is beyond me.
I still stand by my point that there are plenty of far more important things to worry about and spend time condemning. Like Janet Jackson's nipple ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things? This is their eternal destination we are talking about. It DOES matter, unless you don't consider lost souls going to hell important enough to warn them or just ignore thier sin and go along with them. Tolerance is NOT love.
So if they weren't gay they'd be saved? That's what it sounds like you're implying here though I know you dont mean that. Its a matter of Jesus or no Jesus... not whether or not civil unions are legal. This law in Conneticut has nothing to do with anyone's eternal salvation.
When you are saved, you don't live in sin. Yes, we all sin but we don't LIVE in sin. Does that make sense? When you are saved, you live for the Lord, not your flesh. That's what the Bible says.
Just because it's in Conneticut makes it ok? Does God say it's ok since it's in Conneticut? Leviticus says nothing about borders. This is spreading and will continue to as we are told in the Word. It will effect many, many people. Many people will be led astray by the world, so I say yes, it has a LOT to do with eternal salvation. Doesn't it matter to you that young people will view homosexual activity as ok? I worry about the children...
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Betty- I respect your viewpoint, but I still think the issue is Jesus, not the legality of civil unions.
If anything, I would think gays would be more open to listening to Christians if we showed them a bit more respect as human beings and stopped trying to prevent them from aquiring some domestic partner benifits and property rights.
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Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things? This is their eternal destination we are talking about. It DOES matter, unless you don't consider lost souls going to hell important enough to warn them or just ignore thier sin and go along with them. Tolerance is NOT love.
So if they weren't gay they'd be saved? That's what it sounds like you're implying here though I know you dont mean that. Its a matter of Jesus or no Jesus... not whether or not civil unions are legal. This law in Conneticut has nothing to do with anyone's eternal salvation.
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Why does this matter? When we first moved to Seattle, a newspaper reporter did a story on High School girls in our area and homosexual activity. She said from talking to the girls, she found for the most part the girls were not homosexual but experimenting in it because it was consider "cool" now. Sadly these girls were experimenting with sin because movies and T.V. says it is cool. When they grow up and want a heterosexual relationship, the man of their dreams may have issues and fears of marrying a girl who has done this. To me it is sad and shows just how Hollywood has made the homosexual lifestyle look attractive. While they are quick to condemn the Priest that pries on those little boys and rightfully so, they seem to leave out the part of them being homosexuals prying on innocent children. It's like they want to leave out the homosexual part. Why does making homosexual marriage legal matter? Because the world wants to make homosexual activity look legal and make it appear to be normal and accepted behavior to God and man. Christians know that this is not true.
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Post Leviticus all you want... I'm not disagreeing with whether or not homosexuality is a sin...
Sin is sin whether or not there's a secular property and benifit laws.
All I'm saying is this really doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things.
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. [1 Corinthians 6:9-10]
Doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things? This is their eternal destination we are talking about. It DOES matter, unless you don't consider lost souls going to hell important enough to warn them or just ignore thier sin and go along with them. Tolerance is NOT love.
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Post Leviticus all you want... I'm not disagreeing with whether or not homosexuality is a sin...
Sin is sin whether or not there's a secular property and benifit laws.
All I'm saying is this really doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things.
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Danny 458,
According to scripture in the bible homosexuality is wrong and should not be condoned at all and that's according to God.
In Christ's love,
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Why is this a big deal to you?
If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. [Leviticus 20:13]
If it's a big deal to God, don't you think it should be a big deal to us? Just because people are going to live in sin doesn't mean we should endorse or promote it.
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Connecticut passed a civil union bill today. GOD please forgive us and open the eyes of the leaders of Conecticut.
Why is this a big deal to you?
1. Gay people are going to continue doing the same activities whether or not this law passes or not. The issue isn't about the legality of gay sex, its about benifits, property rights, etc...
2. The USA is not a Christian country. The Bible doesn't provide the laws, the congress and state legislatures do.
3. Can you give one reason how this law will affect your life in any way at all?
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Connecticut passed a civil union bill today. GOD please forgive us and open the eyes of the leaders of Conecticut.
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