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Main Entry: dog·ma
Pronunciation: 'dog-m&, 'däg-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural dogmas also dog·ma·ta /-m&-t&/
Etymology: Latin dogmat-, dogma, from Greek, from dokein to seem -- more at DECENT
1 a : something held as an established opinion; especially : a definite authoritative tenet b : a code of such tenets c : a point of view or tenet put forth as authoritative without adequate grounds
2 : a doctrine or body of doctrines concerning faith or morals formally stated and authoritatively proclaimed by a church
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An editorial in our local paper:
http://www.cjonline.com/stories/010205/opi_letters.shtml
Teach the controversy
In his recent letter, my friend Dr. Bill Leifer defines the word "theory" in the world of science. He says it is "a complex group of interrelated phenomena ... proven scientific law with multiple components."
He says evolution, like the theories of relativity and quantum theory, must be taught in our schools for our students to avoid ignorance and incompetence. But Darwinian evolution can't be put in the same category as relativity theory unless one assumes the point of view of naturalism.
Naturalism says that nature is all there is. It's not saying there is no God, but rather that God is irrelevant, because natural processes can explain everything.
The impression is given that science has essentially solved the mystery of origins and all that is needed is to "tweak" small components "to better explain new observations."
This is far from the case. The enormous amount of information contained in the DNA is just one of many problems that confound the Darwinist, who must explain how information of that complexity came about by mindless chance processes. This is a clear sign of intelligent design if one is willing to shed the bias of philosophical naturalism.
The goal should not be the removal of Darwinism from the classroom but rather to teach the controversy. This is already being done in Ohio, where, since 2002, students have been required to learn "how scientists continue to investigate and critically analyze aspects of evolutionary theory." Similar standards have been adopted in New Mexico and Minnesota.
Teach students the whole story of Darwinian evolution, including the problems, flaws and aspects of biological life it is unable to explain. Give our young people all of the evidence, pro and con, and let them make up their own minds. This would be true science education freed from the shackles of philosophical naturalism and the only way to avoid "ignorance and incompetence" regarding the understanding of origins.
TOM MORGAN, Topeka
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Evolution is secular humanist dogma, a sacred cow which is not to be challenged, protected by the academic elitists, and yet is outside the realm of empirical science.
Main Entry: em·pir·i·cal
Pronunciation: -i-k&l
Variant(s): also em·pir·ic /-ik/
Function: adjective
1 : originating in or based on observation or experience
2 : relying on experience or observation alone often without due regard for system and theory
3 : capable of being verified or disproved by observation or experiment
4 : of or relating to empiricism
Fossils appear suddenly in the Cambrian layers of the geologic column. Pre-cambrian is devoid of the fossil evidence which would support the theory of ascendency of species. Also absent in the geologic column is any evidence for inter-species transition.
Main Entry: 1spe·cies
Pronunciation: 'spE-(")shEz, -(")sEz
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural species
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin, appearance, kind, species, from specere to look -- more at SPY
1 a : KIND, SORT b : a class of individuals having common attributes and designated by a common name; specifically : a logical division of a genus or more comprehensive class c : the human race : human beings -- often used with the d (1) : a category of biological classification ranking immediately below the genus or subgenus, comprising related organisms or populations potentially capable of interbreeding, and being designated by a binomial that consists of the name of a genus followed by a Latin or latinized uncapitalized noun or adjective agreeing grammatically with the genus name (2) : an individual or kind belonging to a biological species e : a particular kind of atomic nucleus, atom, molecule, or ion
The most logical explanation is that the cambrian is related to the flood of Noah, and that the sedimentation of the worldwide deluge produced the fossil evidence. This would account for fossil representation extending upward through more than one layer. Far more logical and in line with the Genesis accounts.
The liberals are doing a criminal disservice to our nation by poisoning the minds of our children with Darwinian Dogma, and indoctrination in naturalism. As in the words of Mr. Morgan,"Give our young people all of the evidence, pro and con, and let them make up their own minds. This would be true science education freed from the shackles of philosophical naturalism and the only way to avoid "ignorance and incompetence" regarding the understanding of origins."
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A Servant of Christ,
Drew
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16: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh..
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It happens more and more though in the Christian University's and schools. It's time for Christian parents to review their private school student's teachers agenda's and message! Demand that administration adhere to the Word of God.
Blessings,
Lisa
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I find this very sad.
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Usually, the defense of evolution comes from scientists. But Colling has another motivation. ''People should not feel they have to deny reality in order to experience their faith,'' he says.
I can say that as a Christian and a firm believer in a literal 6 day creation I have never felt that I needed to deny reality, but that Science denies the reality that exisits in things not seen and not measurable!!!
Mr Collins Statements speak of God that is not God and deny the scriptural truth of the Holy Bible.
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''What the designer designed is the random-design process,'' or Darwinian evolution, Colling says. ''God devised these natural laws, and uses evolution to accomplish his goals.''
God does not do anything randomly!!! God is a God of order and not chaos!!!
1 Corinthians 14:40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ’s at his coming.
Do you think that perhaps this is true only after man has become man and is no more ape,?????
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Psalms 37:23 The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and he delighteth in his way
God does not voilate his own word and God's word is in direct opposition to Darwin's word. All species do not share a common ancestor and Dinosaurs did not become birds, not according to God's word, and man has never been anything but man formed by the hand of God from the clay of the earth and filled with the very breath of life from God to become a living soul.
Genesis 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
I do not know how any man can claim to be a Christian and claim that man came from anything but the soil of the earth formed by almighty God and filled with the breath from HIS nostrils, and I can see absolutely nothing random about that.
It must be that dumb sheep thing again!
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Teaching evolution at Christian college
December 31, 2004
BY SHARON BEGLEY Advertisement
Professional danger comes in many flavors. While Richard Colling doesn't jump into forest fires or test experimental jets for a living, he does do the academic's equivalent: He teaches biology and evolution at a fundamentalist Christian college.
At Olivet Nazarene University in Bourbonnais, he says, ''As soon as you mention evolution in anything louder than a whisper, you have people who aren't very happy.''
And within the larger conservative-Christian community, he adds, ''I've been called some interesting names.''
But those experiences haven't stopped Colling -- who received a Ph.D. in microbiology, chairs the biology department at Olivet Nazarene and is himself a devout, conservative Christian -- from coming out swinging. In his new book, Random Designer: Created from Chaos to Connect with Creator (Browning Press, $18.95), he writes: ''It pains me to suggest that my religious brothers are telling falsehoods'' when they say evolutionary theory is ''in crisis'' and claim that there is widespread skepticism about it among scientists. ''Such statements are blatantly untrue,'' he argues. ''Evolution has stood the test of time and considerable scrutiny.''
Continue story at:
http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-olivet31.html
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