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Posted by helpforhomeschoolers (Member # 15) on :
 
I received this via email from our brother Traifield. I am posting it here on his behalf. Tracy as you all know is an avid watcher of end time events.

Trafiels: "From a prophetic perspective, this article is very informative!" (I have bolded certain lines for emphasis).
"Even so, come Lord Jesus!"

AMEN TRACY! EVEN SO, COME Lord Jesus!


And this, knowing the season, that already it is time for you to awake out of sleep: for now is salvation nearer to us than when we first believed.
Romans 13:11


Asking is the EU is anti-Christian same as asking Is the Pope Catholic?
by Judi Mcleod

May 5, 2004

In welcoming 10 new nations in the European Union (EU) last Sunday, Pope John Paul II warned that the bloc could only face the challenge of the 21st century if it defended its Christian roots.

You’d have to dig deep to find the EU’s Christian roots these days. Indeed, asking the question "Is the EU anti-Christian?" could be right up there with asking, "Is the Pope Catholic?"

The pope, whose native country of Poland is in the 25-nation strong EU, told the faithful gathered at St. Peter’s Square Europe’s identity would be "incomprehensible" without Christianity. He has repeatedly called for the bloc to enshrine Christianity, but this has been resisted by the EU’s secular politicians.

Guess the Holy Father hasn’t heard about the rumours swirling over the head of Javier Solana, Secretary-General of the council of the EU and High Representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy (CFSP).

A member of the Club of Rome and of Spain’s Socialist Party, Solana symbolism doesn’t originate from the catechism.

It’s not likely John Paul II has ever visited the EU’s crystal palace in Brussels or would be as familiar with its trappings as outspoken protestant minister, Rev. Ian R.K. Paisley, MPP, MEP.

While political Pooh-Bahs visiting EU headquarters are often photographed with the giant oil painting of a cherub as the main backdrop, Paisley goes behind media headlines.

The Man of the Cloth has written eloquently about the crystal palace, the millions of pounds it cost to build it, and he even lavishes details on the EU’s chosen symbol: The Woman Riding the Beast.

The Woman Riding the Beast is of course, distasteful to Bible-reading Christians the world over. Yet, the depiction of the same symbol was reproduced on the centenary stamp of the E.U. and in a huge painting in the Parliament’s new building in Brussels.

And if that weren’t enough, it was repeated again in a huge sculpture outside the new EU Council of Ministers office in Brussels, for good measure.

"A massive crystal palace tower--officially called the Tower Building–houses the fifth parliament of Europe," Paisley wrote. "It is certainly a building of the space age. The seats of its massive hemicycle are designed like the crew seats in the Star Trek space machines. There are 679 of them--but wait for it! While these seats are allocated to members, one seat remains unallocated and unoccupied. The number of that seat is 666."

The number 666 seems to be a favourite, if not an obsession with the EU. In 2000, with help from France, Solana created a military command structure in the EU, purportedly to compete with the U.S. for government dominance in the Mediterranean by implementing Recommendation 666.

The EU is coming at the world out of left field. With 25 members already signed up and three other applicants Bulgaria, Romania and Turkey waiting in line, it’s a force to be reckoned with.

Dangerously remote in terms of its public image, the EU could be best known because of its currency.

The euro became the coin-of-the-realm for 12 European countries on Jan. 1, 2002.

Some regret that by virtue of juridical agreement, the Vatican signed up for the euro.

After Dec. 31, 2001, the Vatican no longer would use the Italian lira, but the euro, a move Vatican 11 detractors saw as a step that decreases the already feeble temporal independence of the Holy See.

According to the Republic Catholic Daily, "by permitting his image on the new coin, John Paul II has given another symbolic and powerful stimulus to the European Union, which with the issuance of the euro is taking an important step towards the Universal Republic."

Italian sculptor Guido Veroi coined the new Vatican currency. Not missed by EU watchers was that while one side of the Vatican coin replicates the rest of the European countries, the other side of the coin bearing John Paul II’s image is striking. The image faces left.


Canada Free Press founding editor Judi McLeod is an award-winning journalist with 25 years experience in the print media. A former Toronto Sun columnist, she also worked for the Kingston Whig Standard and the former Brampton Daily Times.

http://www.torontofreepress.com/archives/2004/main050504.htm
 

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Posted by Tyme (Member # 3017) on :
 
can you please provide an image of this, "Woman riding the beast"

all I found was this: http://www.goin2hven.com/Revelation/rv23.htm

and I seriously doubt that they used this image.

can someone plese provide an Image for me.

Also, this is looking scary: http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,56294,00.html


Tyme.
 

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Posted by rapturewatcher (Member # 94) on :
 
This is one of the coins. web page



 

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Posted by Niedziejkore (Member # 2773) on :
 
ha! what, so it's a crime now for a woman to ride a bull or a horse now? Let alone just depict a woman riding a bull or a horse or any kind of animal for that matter?
 

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Posted by rapturewatcher (Member # 94) on :
 
ha no crime at all! Read your Bible then you will know what we are talking about.....

Rev 17:3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
 

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Posted by Niedziejkore (Member # 2773) on :
 
Ho, I read it... babylon riding the beast. Lots of heads, lots of horns. I'm fully aware of what the bible says. Stop acting like i've never read it.

I still don't understand what you're getting at though... what's your connotation is the question i'm asking.
 

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Posted by helpforhomeschoolers (Member # 15) on :
 
ha! ha Ho! It is starting to sound like a hip hop joint in here
 

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Posted by Endoxos (Member # 2929) on :
 
http://www.geocities.com/barbsguy7/EUMESSAGE.htm

The first row, the first is the cover from the magazine "Der Speigel", and it reads "Good Morning, Europa!" (my eyesight is too poor to see the small print), the second is from Time Magazine, the third is the bronze statue that sits in front of the EU building.

http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Despatch/Despatch15_2_28-37.pdf
An interesting site, if for nothing else than the pictures.

http://www.extremedutyoil.com/Jesus2.html another interesting one.
 

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Posted by Trafield (Member # 758) on :
 
Thanks for posting the links, Endoxos!

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ha! ha Ho! It is starting to sound like a hip hop joint in here

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ha! ha Ho! Yeehaw!!
Wanted to make it a country and western joint!
 

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Posted by Endoxos (Member # 2929) on :
 
I hate failing to "click this link" first. ^_^; a lot of what I posted was already up there. Silly me.
 

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Posted by Tyme (Member # 3017) on :
 

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"If European countries adopt the (anti-racism) amendment of the European Council in their legislatures, they'll also be able to block websites from the U.S.A., despite the First Amendment."

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