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Posted by Copper25 (Member # 7464) on :

Ezekiel 34:5) And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beast of the field, when they were scattered.

The mark of the beast is “ Six hundred threescore and six ”. “ Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. ” How many in this world savor the things of men rather than the things of God? Perusing worldly pleasure more than the pleasure of the truth? “ even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which were not convenient.” Notice how the number 6 is a number representing ungodliness and rebellion, disobedience, and the number 7 represents holiness or completeness. It is opposite in meaning, so what does this mean? Anyone that is carnal, being rebellious is already carrying and is labeled with 666, “ the number of his name ”. The carnal mind is death for “ to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it can not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.” Who in the carnal mind frame can please God, none. “ It is not in heaven, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to heaven, and bring it unto to us, that we many hear it and do it?” Notice, “ hear it and do it ”, “ For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified ”. If a carnally minded person tries to follow God they will fail because how can one not subject to the law ever be a justified doer of the law? They can’t. “ Verily, Verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God ” and what are we born of, “ Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Water and Spirit, that is a requirement, not optional.

“ of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience ”. Any work of the flesh, and “ the pride of life ”, and things of the such line up with disobedience. “ Behold, I set before you the way of life, and the way of death.” Shall disobedience be death? Yes. Shall obedience be life? Yes. Is there an in-between? No. “ humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.” So where does that leave us, submit or submit not, no crossroad or intersection between the two. “ Behold , I set before you the way of life and the way of death ”. People choose death over obedience by default when they choose not to hear his word. Can one be a doer of the unknown or that which is choked out continuously with worldly obsessions? No. Only one seed is profitable and bears fruit while the others being swallowed when “ the wicked one, catcheth away that which was sown in the heart ”, or because “ when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended”, or “ the care of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke out the word, and he becometh unfruitful.” There is only one way up, by “ the word of truth, by the power of God, by the armour of righteousness on the right hand and on the left ”.

Ephesians 6:13-17)
“ Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: "

“ And continuing instant in prayer ”

Posted by bluefrog (Member # 7448) on :

Subject: The Beast and the Mark.

This subject has been kicked around a great deal, even on the news they suggest that we will have little bitty thangs implanted in our heads and hands, or tattoos, or whatever.

You have given a good selection of scripture to describe my understanding of the subject. I think that the beast is Satan, who by the way is not discussed enough. The Mark to me, is our Belief, thinking and doing, the mark in the hand is our work or doing what Satan tells us to do.

The Jews wear these little thingamajiggies on their forhead to keep their thoughts close to mind. No comment. Maybe that is where the idea of computer chips implanted, n' stuff...?

But, for those who are going to be raptured up and outa the picture why worry about it? Will it be done by Satan to see if any of the Christians got missed ? Where is the purpose?

Posted by Betty Louise (Member # 7175) on :

I believe there will be a distinctive mark that most people will wear with pride in their support of the anti-Christ.
betty

Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev 16:2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Posted by bluefrog (Member # 7448) on :

Like I suggested, if the Christians are raptured at the beginning of the Tribulation then why would they say in Revelations that they saw those who had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, nor had received his marks ?

Why would they require some sort of a mark on the head and hand to seperate the Christians if they are gone already ?

We are in the same discussion on another board.

Posted by Betty Louise (Member # 7175) on :

because there will be Tribulations Saints. The 144 thousand Jews who preach will have some converts.
The thing is we don't want to miss the rapture because there is no guarantee that we will not be over taken by the great deception.

Posted by Eden (Member # 5728) on :

bluefrog wrote about a Bible subject:

quote:
This subject has been kicked around a great deal ...

Very vulgar, considering we are talking about Bible subjects.

love, Eden

Posted by bluefrog (Member # 7448) on :

EDEN....Are you going to start that again ?

Stop your silliness.

Posted by Eden (Member # 5728) on :

bluefrog:

Acts 9:5
And he said, Who are You, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom you persecute: it is hard for you to kick against the pricks.

love, Eden

Posted by bluefrog (Member # 7448) on :

EDEN...If you are suggesting that I am persecuting Jesus that is just over the line and stupid.

Posted by Eden (Member # 5728) on :

bluefrog wrote

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EDEN...If you are suggesting that I am persecuting Jesus that is just over the line and stupid.

No, I'm not suggesting that you are persecuting Jesus. By my quote I'm suggesting the PROPER use of the word kick when it concerns the Bible. It is disrespectful to "kick around Bible subjects" as if they are "profane subjects" such as a bunch of frat boys might "kick around" because they have nothing better to do. The Bible has come to be called the "Holy Bible" for a good reason.

love, Eden

Posted by bluefrog (Member # 7448) on :

EDEN you sure having problems with Figures of Speech aren't you. I'm sorry that you see it the way you do.

OK, now I know how disappointed you are with me. [crying]