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Posted by NewDiscovery711 (Member # 7124) on :
 
Why do Church still People die?




i was thinking ''why do church people die''?

is it because of 1 corn. 1 v 10 - how ''the house'' has been divided and cannot stand?
Has this ''house'' been abandoned by the Holy Spirit and is the devil now in control.? Is the church a counterfeit because of rebellion?
Does the Holy Spirit love mammon, the churches thrive upon?

Perhaps we need to ask serious questions, cuz the church today is nothing like the group trained up by Yahushua Messiah.

Also
the wages of sin is death.
how can a person who has been
1] forgiven
2] covered by the Blood of the Lamb
3] born again as a new creature, where all old things have passed away and new things appear.
4] santified
5] renewed daily
6] under now no condemnation

etc - still die from sins and be in the grave?


quote:
2 tim 1 v 10 - is the believer's gospel?
let us look together


1:9 Who hath saved us, and called [us] with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,


2Ti 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:


2Ti 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.

Paul was an appointed Apostle, teacher and Preacher of this Gospel.

1] abolishing death
2] has now brought to light
3]LIFE AND IMMORTALITY.

NOW THAT sounds like a new creation born again and saved doesn't it?
or
People who remain alive and have conquered their last enemy death rather than toppling into the tomb.
 
Posted by Forever His (Member # 25) on :
 
Hi NewDiscovery 711 , it is nice to meet you.

There are so many ways of answering your question but I felt that perhaps it would be good to go back to the beginning.

In Genesis 1:26 we read that God said " let us make man in our own image". If you remember... after each day of creation and the events there-of scripture records " And God saw that it was good " . Yet after He made man He said " And God saw everything that He had made and indeed it was VERY good" . This would indicate to me that man was God's crowning act of creation. Man was made in His own image and was therefore special. It is no small thing to be made in God's own image. We are valuable to Him.

In Romans version of what happened next we read... Rom. 5:12 Therefore just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned.

We also read Rom. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order. Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when when He shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father, when He shall have put down all rule and authority and power. For He must reign, till he hath put all enemies under His feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.


In short the answer to your question is Heb. 9:27 And it is appointed men once to die... but then the judgment.

In the meantime... The eyes of the Lord are eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to show Himself strong in behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward Him.

May God richly bless those who have their eyes steadfastly set upon Him and who are "seeking to save" that which was lost.

God bless

Forever His
 
Posted by NewDiscovery711 (Member # 7124) on :
 
thank you for your reply. [Smile]


to reconsider Please.
2 tim 1 v 10 - is the believer's gospel?
let us look together

Quote:
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1:9 Who hath saved us, and called [us] with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,


2Ti 1:10 But is now made manifest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:


2Ti 1:11 Whereunto I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of the Gentiles.


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The church [ to my knowledge] has never Majored on this Gospel has it?

but IT IS AN ANOINTED MINISTRY~!
Telling a Person how to come to Life and become an immortal - ofcourse this means = having the very Nature of Our Everlasting Father~! and becoming a quickened Spirit just like the 2nd Adam.
Alive on earth~! by being transformed into the Image of Christ.

is this impossible do ye think?
the Word in math 5 v 5 tells us ''the meek shall inherit the earth''
 




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