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Posted by BORN AGAIN (Member # 5) on :

The Lord God Jeshuah of Nazareth/Bethlehem-Judah said:

John 10:29
My Father, who gave them to Me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of My Father's hand.

The LORD God of Israel is kindly allowing us children adopted out of the kingdom of Satan to help evangelize the world with the help of the Holy Spirit.

But in the end what we managed to do and not do will not matter, because:

John 10:29
My Father, who gave them to Me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of My Father's hand.

All the sheep who are to be redeemed for a price will be redeemed, whether we humans reached them or not. The ones we don't reach, God will speak to and make them part of the Messiah's flock.

may the LORD God of Israel bless all who participate on this CBBS. BORN AGAIN [Cross]

Posted by decibel (Member # 4737) on :

quote:
Originally posted by BORN AGAIN:
The Lord God Jeshuah of Nazareth/Bethlehem-Judah said:

John 10:29
My Father, who gave them to Me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of My Father's hand.

The LORD God of Israel is kindly allowing us children adopted out of the kingdom of Satan to help evangelize the world with the help of the Holy Spirit.

But in the end what we managed to do and not do will not matter, because:

John 10:29
My Father, who gave them to Me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of My Father's hand.

All the sheep who are to be redeemed for a price will be redeemed, whether we humans reached them or not. The ones we don't reach, God will speak to and make them part of the Messiah's flock.

may the LORD God of Israel bless all who participate on this CBBS. BORN AGAIN

These sheep, which this verse is talking about are the lost House of Israel.

"I (Yeshua/Jesus) am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." MATTHEW 15:24

I agree that Gentiles were adopted into this fold, but Yeshua was refering to the House of Israel which lost their identity back in the day, and are now in other flocks because of their disobedience and have assumed the identity of the Gentiles.

I agree with you that God will find all His sheep and reveal to them who they are, whether we do our part or not, but that verse, and Yeshua's whole purpose was to make a way for His 'lost' House of Israel to come back to Him.

Posted by epouraniois (Member # 5187) on :

i have a couple of it seems to me type statements on this.

if the standard is, that Christ would not speak to anyone because He was only sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel, and that did not include Judah, then there is a problem with Him speaking to all the Judeans. surely Christ is not double minded?

it also becomes an issue to assume that the lost sheep did not know who they were, making the assumption they are gentiles who don't know they are Hebrews.

it can be noted that both Peter and James wrote to those who were scattered abroad, who showed up anually for the three manditory feasts.

is it possible that, being the kingdom was at hand, and being Israel was divorced, that the wife of thy youth might have been a portion of what would be brought back under one house?

that they were not lost in any other way but spiritually?

surely, if I am from Japan, and become lost, I would still know I am Japanees, is it not so with Israel?

Have you considered that Romans Ten states that All Israel had heard, for the {commissioned Mar16} sound went out into all the world.

It doesn't appear to me that the Bible gives any indication that the apostles couldn't find any of the lost sheep of the house of Israel.