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becauseHElives
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When you say "perverted message", are you talking about Oprah Winfrey and Joel and so on? Or do you mean us at the BBS?
When you say "separated lives", you don't mean "I got mine. To heck with the rest of them", do you? I mean, we still reach out to the lost, right?
no I am not picking on anyone person on the board....
Oprah Winfrey is not preaching Yahshua's Gospel at all..she's preaching doctrines of devils.
But the majority of all denomination are trying to bring about ecumenical unity at what ever the cost of compromise.
and Carol when i say separated lives , my understanding is all, all HIS children are called to personal Holiness, (separation from this world)
If the believer lives rightly as the Holy Spirit leads and directs we will reach the hearts of the lost.'
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Matt.19
[27] Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?
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There is the danger of pride. “What shall we have?” asked Peter. This parable warned him, “How do you know you will have anything?” Beware of overconfidence when it comes to the rewards God will give, for those first in their own eyes (and in the eyes of others) may end up last! Likewise, do not get discouraged; for those who consider themselves “unprofitable servants” may end up first.
(Be Loyal-Matthew)
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Matt.20
[1] For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.
[2] And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard.
[3] And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace,
[4] And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way.
[5] Again he went out about the sixth and ninth hour, and did likewise.
[6] And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle?
[7] They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive.
[8] So when even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first.
[9] And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny.
[10] But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny.
[11] And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house,
[12] Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day.
[13] But he answered one of them, and said, Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny?
[14] Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee.
[15] Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
[16] So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
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When you say "perverted message", are you talking about Oprah Winfrey and Joel and so on? Or do you mean us at the BBS?
When you say "separated lives", you don't mean "I got mine. To heck with the rest of them", do you? I mean, we still reach out to the lost, right?
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Originally posted by becauseHElives:
I blame the perverted message of Grace in our day for this travesty.
But Yahshua told us this day would come; he even told us it would get worse and worse before the end.
Paul told us people would not endure sound doctrine in the last days....
The True Gospel is very clear; those that belong to Yahshua will live Godly (Separated lives) unto Yahweh.
Those that love Yahweh love His Law and by His Grace live accordingly to its precepts.
Many in that day will say Lord, Lord, only to hear depart from me you lawless workers of iniquity.
Not me~ I wonder what dart from the devil caused Bath-sheba to wash herself where David could see?
No David was a man after Gods Heart yet the Devil knew how to bait him.
Not everybudy is as Spiritually stong as you.
Your pushing of your Condemnation Religion is getting old.
28] But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my vineyard.
[29] He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented, and went.
[30] And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered and said, I go, sir: and went not.
[31] Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.
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I blame the perverted message of Grace in our day for this travesty.
But Yahshua told us this day would come; he even told us it would get worse and worse before the end.
Paul told us people would not endure sound doctrine in the last days....
The True Gospel is very clear; those that belong to Yahshua will live Godly (Separated lives) unto Yahweh.
Those that love Yahweh love His Law and by His Grace live accordingly to its precepts.
Many in that day will say Lord, Lord, only to hear depart from me you lawless workers of iniquity.
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Disney Girls Vamp It Up
May 6, 2008 on 12:00 am | In Britney Spears, Disney, Hilary Duff, Miley Cyrus, Vanity Fair
When I was a kid, I was desperate to become a Mouseketeer - wearing those mouse ears, dancing, singing, and acting in one of the weekly Disney specials. Alas, telling them of my dream in a postcard sent to them at the age of 12 got no response.
At that time in Disney’s history, children’s “things” were innocent and sweet. No more. We are now in the era of Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, Vanessa Hudgens and now, Miley Cyrus posing for Vanity Fair topless, beneath a draped sheet, and sporting a seductive look.
It’s no surprise that little girls and boys look up to young celebrities with enthusiasm and yearning, and it’s obvious that these celebrities become instant role-models as well. My Disney role-models were talented and squeaky clean, because that was Mr. Disney’s vision. That was a good thing - or at least most families with children believed so.
Most parents of 15-year-olds are pretty upset about this inappropriate display of an adolescent in Vanity Fair, where Cyrus is exposing her body in a vulgar way and giving their own children the wrong idea of feminine modesty and self-respect.
Vanity Fair defends this travesty as beautiful, natural, and artistic. How ’bout saying the truth: they did this to sell magazines, and the best way to sell magazines is to sensationally exploit somebody or something. When it comes to exploiting children and vulgarizing their innocence, somebody ought to pull the plug on the photographer’s lights.
Apparently, former teen star Hilary Duff professed (according to Fox News) that she would never have made the mistake that Miley did by posing topless beneath a sheet. When I first heard of Duff’s statement, I got excited that someone of her celebrity would take on the elites of Manhattan and Hollywood. Well, that dimmed immediately upon reading her entire statement, which included the following:
“Everyone goes through things and takes their own path; who am I to judge decisions that she made? People are pushing you to do something, and if you want to do it, that’s your choice. It’s not what I would choose to do, but if she did, then that’s fine. That’s her choice.”
In 2008, I am shocked to read the same lame, amoral, immature and gutless rhetoric of the 1960’s. Anything one chooses to do is fine simply because it is their choice? So, there is not right and wrong? There are no obligations to standards for the sake of others and the community? All things we choose to do have value simply because we choose to them?
Take that philosophy to your standard innocent and naïve youth, and what do you get? You get the blasé determination that the best thing for little girls is an injection for a sexually transmitted disease (venereal warts) almost as soon as she reaches double digits in age! You also get Planned Parenthood aborting babies for these little girls and not reporting to the police that the fathers are adult men. You get young women so scarred and corrupted by all the “choices” they’ve made, that they can barely imagine, much less trust, the yearning for a safe, committed, happy marriage and family.
That one look of Miley over her shoulder, with her chest barely covered with a sheet is an assault on the innocence of even more young girls…just when we thought they got the idea that becoming another Britney Spears was not such a good thing.
From Dr. Laura's Blog
http://www.drlaurablog.com/
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Artistic?
Please!
When women or men take their clothing off on purpose in front of a camera, I would think it is to be Provocative.
I never understood what motivates rich people to want to do this when they have all they need anyway.
I hope it really embarrassed her and she keeps her clothes on when cameras are around from now on.
Please Miley wake up before it is to late. It is not worth the money.
Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? ~ Mark 8:37
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Miley Cyrus Embarrassed By Photos
Miley Cyrus, the 15-year-old star of "Hannah Montana," said she is "embarrassed" by a provocative photo spread shot by famed photographer Annie Liebovitz that is appearing in the upcoming issue of Vanity Fair.
"I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs and reading the story, I feel so embarrassed," she said in a statement released today. "I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about."
Cyrus, the daughter of country music star Billy Ray Cyrus, is the singing and acting sensation known to her legions of teenage fans from the Disney Channel series "Hannah Montana."
In one of the photos, Cyrus is shown from the side, with most of her back bare, clutching what appears to be a satin sheet loosely around herself.
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friendlyrose ,
us having this discussion show how far the So called church is into apostasy.
most people day that call themselves Christians think nothing about immodest clothing such as Hana Montana displays
but the first thing the man that had demons cast off of went and clothed himself....
does anyone understand modesty and the believing child of Yahweh and what scriptures teach?
does anyone understand sensual?
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You're welcome. I know it is wrong to idolize someone else other than Jesus Christ. Parents should teach their children not to do that. My point is, would you feel the same way about her if she was a Christian artist? Christian artists dance like her and more than I have seen. At least she is talking about Jesus so that does point to Him in some way, even if all her songs are not about Him.
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I never implied dancing for the Yahweh was wrong, but the dance of this world and the dancing of the Saints is vastly different from each other.
Good response Drew.
WildB you still have not explained ....what the scripture means about living Godly?
Especially in light of the scripture referenced...
please read all of 2nd Timothy ..........especially chapter 3
2 Timothy 3:12-17 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Romans 12: 1, 2 says, "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye tranformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
Romans 8:13 says, " For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live." His word lets us know that the life you live will be indicative of the choices that you make.
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And truthfully,
How manny have really been tested and tried,
To these words~
“I love Jesus. I really do. I do it all for Him.”
I have.
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In her emulation of Madonna, Christine Aguilera, Britney Spears, this poor girl is selling her physique and talent to the highest bidder and honoring the world, the flesh, and the devil. Her performance is not praise and glory to God, but praise to a shake-your-booty worldly system of values. She in turn is an idol to young girls who will in turn emulate her mode of dress and staged personae.
Quote from the website:
"Miley is serving as a role model to millions of little girls who are losing their childhood and innocence because their parents are feeding their idolatry for this rock singer while those who put her on stage are making millions of dollars. It’s a huge industry. You can see the face of one little girl with shining eyes in this video that jumps out at you from the audience. These girls are not being pointed to Jesus and away from the world and the flesh by Miley Cyrus. They’re being drawn in.
The new non-gospel of evangelicalism has led to this. All a star needs to say is, “I love Jesus. I really do. I do it all for Him.” Then they keep on with their disobedient conduct, their carnal desires and their worldly acclaim. This is the false gospel that has been embraced by so many millions today. That’s why I have a passion for the work that I do, to help be a voice calling people back to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, back to the authority and truth of the Word, and away from this deceit that is leading so many to hell, ironically, in Jesus name."
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David danced before the Lord with all his might: David didn't hold back anything in his own expression of worship. He didn't dance out of obligation but out of heartfelt worship. He was glad to bring the ark of the Lord into Jerusalem according to God's word.
i. This expression of David's heart showed that he had a genuine emotional link to God. There are two great errors in this area - the error of making emotions the center of our Christian life and the error of an emotionally detached Christian life. In the Christian life emotions must not be manipulated and they must not be repressed.
ii. We don't think that dancing is strange when the baseball player rounds the bases after the game winning home run. We don't think it is strange when the winning touchdown is scored or when our own child scores a goal. We think nothing at hands raised at a concert or a touchdown. Why should we think them strange in worship to God?
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WildB, can you give me some idea of what the scripture means about living Godly?
please read all of 2nd Timothy ..........especially chapter 3
2 Timothy 3:12-17 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Romans 12: 1, 2 says, "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye tranformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."
Romans 8:13 says, " For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live." His word lets us know that the life you live will be indicative of the choices that you make.
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2Sam.6
[14] And David danced before the LORD with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.
A Patriot in Christ,
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Amen Dale!!
It is lip-service to God, and as generic a "jesus", as the "man up stairs" phrase.
Matt. 7:
21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22: Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
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Sloppy, anything goes Christianity, how heart breaking!
friendlyrose and WildB, someone needs to help you both understand the Gospel if you can not see what is wrong with that clip.
How far those little girls are from Salvation through Yahshua's Blood.
but the sad matter of fact is, that your idea of Christianity is what most so called Christians believe...
That's why Yahshua's words are so real when He said when I return will I find faith on the earth.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
One of Miley Cyrus’ hit songs is “Best of Both Worlds”. There is no such thing in the Christian life. We can’t serve the world and God at the same time. When Jesus Christ comes in and transforms us from death to life, from the kingdom of darkness to the Kingdom of Light, our value system changes, everything changes. When you have been brought to life by the living Christ, you can’t stay the same.
Miley is serving as a role model to millions of little girls who are losing their childhood and innocence because their parents are feeding their idolatry for this rock singer while those who put her on stage are making millions of dollars. It’s a huge industry. You can see the face of one little girl with shining eyes in this video that jumps out at you from the audience. These girls are not being pointed to Jesus and away from the world and the flesh by Miley Cyrus. They’re being drawn in.
The new non-gospel of evangelicalism has led to this. All a star needs to say is, “I love Jesus. I really do. I do it all for Him.” Then they keep on with their disobedient conduct, their carnal desires and their worldly acclaim. This is the false gospel that has been embraced by so many millions today. That’s why I have a passion for the work that I do, to help be a voice calling people back to the Gospel of Jesus Christ, back to the authority and truth of the Word, and away from this deceit that is leading so many to hell, ironically, in Jesus name.
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Hello,
Not that I'm a hannah montana fan or anything, but what exactly is she doing wrong? Is it because she has concerts and is on a television show? It seems to be pretty innocent. I noticed she thanked her Lord and savior Jesus Christ at the kids choice awards show. And her song 'best of both worlds' is not about the world and christianity, it's about being a regular girl and a secret pop star on her show heehee
Thanx for filling in some blanks.
Im my daughters dad. Believe me my judgement, I think Miley a very wholesome 16 yearold.
Dolly Parton is on her show a lot as a extra.
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Hello,
Not that I'm a hannah montana fan or anything, but what exactly is she doing wrong? Is it because she has concerts and is on a television show? It seems to be pretty innocent. I noticed she thanked her Lord and savior Jesus Christ at the kids choice awards show. And her song 'best of both worlds' is not about the world and christianity, it's about being a regular girl and a secret pop star on her show heehee
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As I sit here typing tears fill my eyes for what is happening in the name of the precious name of Yeshua.
The message of Yeshua has been so perverted that a beautiful young girl like Hannah Montana can be deceived by who ever is telling her she can live the kind of life she is living and still be a Christian.
This is one reason I hate the lie from the pit of hell of "Once Saved Always Saved"...
It give a sense of security to someone as deceived as this little girl.
Yahweh help any of you that read these words and still try to convince yourself or anyone else that you can love this world and still have eternal life.
I hope you can feel what Yahweh feels as you watch this clip....
http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?cat=15
I know His He weep because I know His heart.
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