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Michael Harrison
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Actually there is a test for original manuscripts. It is in the pattern of the number of the words. This is discussed in a book called Theomatics, By Del Washburn and Jerry Lucas. In this book it is explained how that the koine Greek which was spoken by Jesus, was tailor made by the Holy Spirit for the day of visitation in which Jesus lived. It was the spoken language of His day, the 'slang'.
This same vernacular changed after Jesus rose, and was different also before His arrival, making it unique. The 'test' as described in this book only applies to the Holy Scriptures, and no other language [except Hebrew] will satisfactorily perform as expected of these works. In fact, the number of probability is unimaginable for the verses of the Bible to suceed at this.
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Carol Swenson
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The Wikipedia is on online encyclopedia.
It has information about the King James and other versions of the Bible.
The information is freely available to all who are interested in the facts.
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Dear Sherry, you are not a prude because you see Truth...
SHOCKER: The NIV Teen Study Bible Frequently we receive emails or phone calls asking our opinion on the various "teen" Study Bibles. Zondervan's NIV Teen Study Bible is the number one selling teen Study Bible, boasting of over one million copies sold. What we found lurking in the NIV Teen Study Bible is hard to believe! We also compare, rate and select the Best Teen Bible. There was a clear WINNER!
http://www.av1611.org/kjv/nivteen.html
The Attack on the Bible Did you know your Bible is under attack like never before? But not by atheists, or agnostics - but Christians! One of the world's best kept secrets.
The New International perVersion Did you know the New International Version (NIV) removes 17 complete verses, 64,576 words, contains blatant lies and that's just the beginning. . . Must reading for every Christian!
The New King James Version:Counterfeit Did you know the New King James Bible makes over 100,000 translation changes from the "old" King James Bible?
How to Spot a Counterfeit Bible? Many people write and ask about a certain version of the Bible. With over 200 different English versions available and a new one coming out every 6 months, it's difficult to individually separate Satan's counterfeits from the Word of God. We created 25 simple checks to spot one of Satan's counterfeits.
Bible Version Comparison: An analysis documenting over 300 verses that have been removed or changed from the seven most popular new versions.
Bible Verses Removed The NIV and the NASV completely remove 17 verses. The NRSV completely removes 18 verses. The RSV completely removes 25 verses.
Major Bible Words Removed Did you know the New King James Verison takes out over 2200 words. And that's just the New Testament! The NIV takes out over 5000! Not insignificant words, but key Bible words like Christ, Lord, Jesus, heaven, etc. A table that lists 15 major Bible words and how many times the new versions remove them!
Ronald Reagan and the King James Bible A transcript of one of Ronald Reagan's famous radio adresses. In this address, President Reagan, the "Great Communicator", eloquently gives his thoughts on the "Good News Bible" (also called the Good News for Modern Man and Today's English Version) in comparison to the Authorized Version or the King James Bible. Great Stuff!
The New Century Version: Easy to Read or Easy to Deceive? Our examination of the New Century Version. Heralded as the "easy to read" version, the NCV is clearly, one of the most corrupt and mistranslated Bibles in existence. The NCV is also the same base translation as the very popular International Children's Bible. A little known secret: Why was the NCV and ICB translated by a known cult?
The Good News Babel A detailed analysis of the Good News Bible (a.k.a. Good News for Modern Man and Today's English Version). One of the most corrupt and most popular Bibles ever published. In some countries, it is still the number one selling Bible.
Are You Washed in the Blood? Not according to the NIV, NASV, RSV, NRSV, CEV, NCV, and the other legions of new Bible Versions! This is a shocker!
TNIV: Translation Treason A detailed analysis of Today's New International Version (TNIV), the new gender-inclusive NIV being promoted by the Newsboys and others CCMers. If this doesn't shock you – you need to check your pulse.
How to Spot a Counterfeit Bible? Many people write and ask about a certain version of the Bible. With over 200 different English versions available and a new one coming out every 6 months, it's difficult to individually separate Satan's counterfeits from the Word of God. We created 25 simple checks to spot one of Satan's counterfeits.
Is "Easter" in Acts 12:4 an error in the King James Bible? This article documents irrefutable proof for the FACT the King James Bible is the EXACT words of God. This is must reading. This ends the argument once and for all.
Easter, or Passover? Another excellent defense of "Easter" in Acts 12:4 as found in the King James Bible by Jack Moorman.
The Message Bible: Message from Hell by Laurence M. Vance, Ph.D.
An Examination of the Modern King James Version Is the Modern King James Bible "true" to the King James Bible? We examine the MKJV in the light of the King James Bible.
http://www.av1611.org/
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King James Version
Modern critical biblical translations differ substantially from the Authorized Version in a number of passages, primarily because they rely on source manuscripts not then accessible to (or not then highly regarded by) early 17th Century Biblical Scholarship. Some conservative fundamentalist Protestants believe that these source manuscripts should be rejected as corrupt; and that the Authorized Version is truer to the original languages. This preference is partially because many modern versions often excise or marginalize certain verses deemed by modern scholarship as later additions to the original text and thus are seen by traditionalists as tampering with the sacred text. (See King-James-Only Movement.) Those defending this view invariably also limit the scope of sacred scripture to Old and New Testaments alone - rejecting the Authorized Version in the books of the Apocrypha.
In the Old Testament, there are also many differences from modern translations that are based not on manuscript differences, but on a different translation of Ancient Hebrew vocabulary or grammar by the translators. Hebrew scholarship by non-Jews was not as developed in the early 17th century as it is now. The New Testament is largely unaffected by this as the grasp of Koine Greek was already quite firm in the West by the time the translation was made. The difference is partially caused by the fact that while there is a very large and diverse body of extra-biblical material extant in Ancient Greek, there is very little such material in Ancient Hebrew, and probably not even this little was known to the translators at the time.
Additionally, Hebrew scholarship in modern times has been much improved by information gleaned from Aramaic (Syriac) and Arabic, two Semitic languages related to Ancient Hebrew, both of which have a continuous existence as living languages. Since these languages are still in use and have larger bodies of extant material than Ancient Hebrew (especially in the case of Arabic), many Hebrew words and Hebrew grammar phenomena can now be understood in a way not available at the time the Authorized Version was written.
Scrivener (1884) asserts that the translations undertaken by the second Westminster Company - of the Epistles; and by the second Cambridge Company - of the Apocrypha; are of notably poorer quality than those for the rest of the Old and New Testaments; both in respect of clarity of English expression, and in accurate rendering of the Greek. In particular, he detects in these two companies too great a tendency to maintain the English text of the Bishop's Bible against superior renderings in the Geneva Bible.
Main article: Bible version debate
Some scholars working with Greek, Aramaic, and Hebrew versions regard the Authorized Version as an inferior English translation of the Bible. For example, New Testament scholar Bart D. Ehrman has written:
The Authorized Version is filled with places in which the translators rendered a Greek text derived ultimately from Erasmus's edition, which was based on a single twelfth-century manuscript that is one of the worst of the manuscripts that we now have available to us![5]
Some suggest that its value lies in its poetic language at the cost of accuracy in translation, whilst other scholars would firmly disagree with these claims. Some of today's exegetes (Walter Brueggemann, Marcus Borg, Warren Carter, James L. Crenshaw, Robert W. Funk, John Dominic Crossan, and N.T. Wright) do not endorse the KJV for Masters or Doctoral-level exegetical work .
—Wikipedia – King James Version
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I don't want to sound like a prude but the fact is I've found many perversions of The Word in the context of the newer versions of the bible. The NIV, in I Timothy 3:16, states He appeared in a body whereas the King James says He was manifest in the flesh. In PHILIPPIANS 2:6 the NIV further pollutes The Word by changing " Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery TO BE EQUAL WITH GOD" to " Who, being in very nature God, DID NOT CONSIDER EQUALITY WITH GOD something to be grasped,". What's worse is what they done to Luke 2:43 and it came to mind mostly due to this time of year when we celebrate the virgin birth which can of course be documented otherwise but doesn't have anything to do with my point. In this verse, "The CHILD'S FATHER and mother marveled at what was said about him.", they are actually making it sound as though Joseph was His father. The KJ states it proper... "And JOSEPH and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him." I have found a lot more but too many to post here. And we worry about other religions and cults being a disgrace. I think some Christians ought to rethink their study materials. That's false doctrine if I ever seen any!
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God's peace!, Sherry
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