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levi44
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Thanks, helpforhomeschoolers. I vaguely remember reading something about it but couldn't remember where. So then it's true. Wow.
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SEARCH IN Chron.com Go
HOUSTON CHRONICLE ARCHIVES
Paper: HOUSTON CHRONICLE
Date: SAT 04/30/1988
Section: Religion
Page: 1
Edition: 2 STAR
San Antonio fundamentalist battles anti-Semitism
By JULIA DUIN, Houston Chronicle Religion Writer
Staff
John Hagee, fundamentalist pastor from San Antonio and friend of Israel, is truly a strange fish.
Although a Christian minister, he celebrates Passover and the Feast of Tabernacles, buys Israeli bonds
and plants trees in Israel through the Jewish National Fund. He has raised $225,000 for Hadassah, a
Jewish women's Zionist organization. He's been to Israel eight times. He's even visited Dachau.
Rabbi Jack Segal of Houston's Congregation Beth Yeshurun, one of Hagee's fans, calls the pastor "a
courageous soldier in God's army." Mayor Kathy Whitmire proclaimed Nov. 17, 1984, "Pastor John
Hagee Day." The "Jewish Herald Voice" ran a rave review of Hagee last fall on its editorial page.
Hagee, 48, was in town last week at a meeting for young Jewish leaders sponsored by the Anti-
Defamation League of B'nai B'rith. He'll be back in town June 23 at Beth Yeshurun for a "night to honor
Israel" celebration. He is pastor of the 9,600-member Cornerstone Church in northern San Antonio, a
plush white brick edifice dubbed the "South Texas Vatican" by locals.
How did a homegrown boy (Hagee grew up in Baytown and Houston) make it with the Jews?
Simple: The man has a mission. He's out to attack anti-Semitism. He also believes that Jews can come
to God without going through Jesus Christ.
He also believes that someday Jews will claim title to a vast area promised them in Genesis and
Deuteronomy that encompasses territory from the Mediterranean to the Euphrates River in Iraq. Israel
has a divine right to occupy the West Bank, he says.
This is a sharp contrast to positions taken by several mainline denominations that the Palestinians
should have their own nation on the West Bank and that Scripture doesn't necessarily promise the land
to the Jews. To back his contentions, Hagee cites Romans 9-11, calling the chapters "God's position
paper on the Jewish people."
"Christianity has a great debt of gratitude toward the Jewish people," the minister said. "The Jewish
people gave us the word of God. They gave us the prophets, the patriarchs, the first family: Mary,
Joseph and a very prominent Jewish rabbi, Jesus Christ. What kind of faith or foundation would we
have without the Jews? Honoring the Jewish people is a very rootstock principle in Christianity."
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Hagee has appeared at six "nights to honor Israel" since September 1981. Such overtures to the
Jewish community have brought him death threats. After his station wagon's windows were shot out
before one rally, Hagee moved into a high-security neighborhood and hired two bodyguards to
accompany him during Sunday services.
"I'm not trying to convert the Jewish people to the Christian faith," he said. "There is nothing in the
`night to honor Israel' that does that."
In fact, trying to convert Jews is a "waste of time," he said. "The Jewish person who has his roots in
Judaism is not going to convert to Christianity. There is no form of Christian evangelism that has failed
so miserably as evangelizing the Jewish people. They (already) have a faith structure."
Everyone else, whether Buddhist or Baha'i, needs to believe in Jesus, he says. But not Jews. Jews
already have a covenant with God that has never been replaced by Christianity, he says.
"The Jewish people have a relationship to God through the law of God as given through Moses," Hagee
said. "I believe that every Gentile person can only come to God through the cross of Christ. I believe
that every Jewish person who lives in the light of the Torah, which is the word of God, has a
relationship with God and will come to redemption.
"The law of Moses is sufficient enough to bring a person into the knowledge of God until God gives him
a greater revelation. And God has not," said Hagee, giving hisinterpretation of Romans 11:25. "Paul
abandoned the idea (of Jews knowing Christ). In the book of Romans, he said, `I am now going to go
to the Gentiles from this time forward.' Judaism doesn't need Christianity to explain its existence. But
Christianity has to have Judaism to explain its existence."
His position is a little unusual for evangelicals, who believe that the new covenant does supersede the
old. Those who disagree with him are scathingly termed as "replacement theologians." The San
Antonio pastor says such persons are anti-Semitic.
Curiously, mainliners who would disagree with Hagee's position on Israel's divine right to land would
agree with him on a new covenant versus the old. Last June, the 1.7-million-member United Church of
Christ denounced past persecution of Jews by Christians and stressed: "Judaism has not been
superseded by Christianity... Christianity is not to be understood as the successor religion to Judaism;
God's covenant with the Jewish people has not been abrogated."
Similiarly, the 3-million-member Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) at its General Assembly approved a
document for study that also said Christianity had not replaced Judaism.
Opponents say such a theory is a form of universalism, which means that all religions are equivalent.
In the past, Christianity has stressed that Jesus Christ is the only way to God, for Jews as well as non-
Jews.
Hagee disputes suggestions that his eventual agenda includes the conversion of Jews to Christianity.
Even the Apostle Paul didn't promise that, he says.
"Paul says Jews are chosen of God, loved of God, have not been replaced by the Christian church, are
still in the economy of God and that some Jewish people have a relationship with God right now
through divine election and that all Israel would be saved," he said.
However, many Christian theologians are anti-Semitic, he says, because they say the covenant with the Jews is gone, that Jews have been replaced by Christianity and that Israel does not deserve "There's an anti-Semitism growing in the evangelical church to a dangerous proportion," he said. "And I'm writing books and crisscrossing the country trying to bring anti-Semitism in this country to a
standstill."
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Is it true about Hagee's dual-covenant theology? Does he really believe Jews have special election with God so as not to need Jesus?
I've been a Hagee fan for years, but if this really is true then he has strayed big time.
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I fully understand the concerns for the Jewish people. I myself am a dedicated Christian in a constant fight for the Jewish people. They are God's chosen people, and I will always give them the proper respect they deserve. I have joined with John Hagee ministries in Christians United for Israel, and I am excited about some of the upcoming events for us. We are going to Washington D.C. July 18th and 19th to help fight for Israel. I, myself, may not get the chance to go to D.C. though I want to badly. If any of you may be interested than go to their web-site for more information. web page ![[Cross]](graemlins/cross.gif)
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WHY ARE THE JEWS THE MOST HATED PEOPLE ON OUR PLANET?
WHAT’S SO SPECIAL ABOUT THE JEWS?
YOU DON’T HAVE TO GO TOO FAR TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHY
-THE JEWS-
GOD’S COVENANT PARTNER
FATHER OF THE FAITH
BROUGHT US THE LAW
TAUGHT US TO WORSHIP
TAUGHT US TO FIGHT
BUILT THE EARTHLY COPY OF THE HEAVENLY TEMPLE
SHOWED THE WORLD LOVE
KNOW HOW TO PROSPER
SHOW THE HAND OF GOD
BLOOD OF A JEW FOR REDEMPTION
NEVER CAN BE EXTERMINATED
FIRST TO RAISE THE DEAD
FIRST TO WALK ON WATER
FIRST TO MULTIPLY SUBSTANCE
FIRST TO STOP THE SUN
FIRST TO SPLIT THE SEA
FIRST TO DRINK FROM A ROCK
FIRST TO TO HEAL THE BLIND
FIRST TO CAST OUT DEMONS
FIRST TO FISH FOR MONEY
FIRST TO NEVER LIE
FIRST TO GIVE PEACE
FIRST TO GIVE LIFE
FIRST TO BRING FREEDOM
FIRST TO BE BORN OF A VIRGIN
FIRST TO DEFEAT THE DEVIL
FIRST WITH POWER OVER DEATH
FIRST WITH POWER OVER SIN
FIRST TO TAKE THE GOSPEL TO THE WORLD
A JEW WROTE 2/3 OF THE NEW TESTAMENT
A JEW RETURNS TO TAKE US HOME TO BE LORD OF LORDS
FIRST TO BE KING OF KINGS
FIRST TO BE FOREVER
YOU ASK ME WHY THE JEWS ARE SO HATED
IF YOU WERE THE DEVIL, WHO WOULD YOU HATE?
-THE JEWS-
ALPHA AND OMEGA
written by Curtis Taylor
He's coming soon, how do I know? visit web page
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-KEEP LOOKING UP-
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