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becauseHElives
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SoftTouch, if you haven't read the book "The Unseen Hand" by Ralf Epperson, it is very inlightning on the topic oc Mason, Illminati and the like.
WhiteEagle you might want to read it also.
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Strive to enter in at the strait gate:for many, I say unto you will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. ( Luke 13:24 )
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2 Cor. 11:
14: And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15: Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Gal. 1:
7: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8: But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9: As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
I amen those who share concern. Joseph Smith also claimed the title of prophet, was visited and led by an angel, had extra Biblical knowledge which only he could share.
Jesus had all power:
Matt. 28:
16: Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
17: And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.
18: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19: Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Jesus was God manifest in the flesh, not at any time an angel which is a created being created by Jesus:
1 Tim 3:
16: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
John 1:
1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2: The same was in the beginning with God.
3: All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
The Holy Spirit of God is the only one who is from God who will reside in the hearts of His children.
To be visited by an "angel", and then declare the "angel" as dwelling inside,, makes one deeply concerned as to the nature of this "angel".
John 14:
26: But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
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16: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh..
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Amen WhiteEagle and BecauseHeLives!
That's really bizzar that you brought up the subject of Masons/Illumanti Dale... I've just started reading a book by Gary Kah (The Demonic Roots of Globalism). Kah is one of the most educated on the subject. I've read his book "One World Religion" and am awaiting shipment of "En Route to Global Occupation."
In the book I'm currently reading it talks about 'angels' visiting unsuspecting christians who have opened themselves up to these (in reality demonic) beings. Satan has been Oh So Cleaver and Thorough in desensitizing the current generation through century's of slow and deliberate brainwashing... getting us to accept things that 'sound' biblical, but upon closer look are actually occult! I'm not well versed enough in this subject to explain it all, but I would definitely recommend any of Gary Kah's books to anyone who wants to see the plans of the enemy of our souls - laid out.
The Soldier who is familiar with the enemy's stratagies will not fall prey to the enemy's traps.
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Psalm 119:104Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way. 105Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
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Amen WhiteEagle
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we don't need any outside "secret knowledge" that Christ didn't know.
I would say it a little different...
“We don't need any outside "secret knowledge" that is not contained in Holy Scripture, all we need is Yeshua.”
The Apostle Paul had revelation that was not lawful for him to speak, but I am sure it did not contradict anything in the Scriptures.
The Illuminati, Skull and Bones, Masonic Lodge and other groups claim to have some of this secret knowledge. But their secret knowledge comes from Satan or as they prefer to call him, Lucifer.
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WhiteEagle
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Originally posted by SoftTouch:
http://journals.aol.com/creynoldsh/BibleTruthsRevealed4144K/
The following are two excerpts from the above link:
“With the Lord’s Spirit in me I speak what he speaks. The secret wisdom is reserved for the people who love God…this is a True love that comes from us when we obey the Lord in his Truth….the Truth being the Lord’s teaching…The secret the Lord will share with those who obey the Lord’s teachings will be a Word that God prepares about the end times…The Day of the Lord….This Word will reveal his hidden thoughts from the verses of the Holy Bible…This is an incredible Word from the Lord and is definitely something that no one has ever seen, heard or mind that has conceived of…Even Jesus did not know about this secret word…if he did then we would know about it too for we have the mind of Christ.”
“Please pray for wisdom when reading the Word that I received from the one and only true God. If you accept me then you accept the one who sent me. If you do not accept me then you should examine your faith...Do you do all you can to obey the teachings of Christ? In obeying the teachings of Christ, we show the Lord that we love him. Please give great thought to what Jesus taught and then obey his Words…These teachings come from God.”
This is causing a very uneasy feeling in my spirit and I’m not quite sure what to say just yet… I’m praying about it. Anyone else?
There's a very good reason why we have an uneasy feeling in our spirits about these statements.
This person is preaching a different gospel, and a different Christ.
Jesus Christ is the Creator, the Word, The Alpha and Omega. To say (as she has) that Jesus did not have the "secret knowledge" that she's getting: is PREACHING a DIFFERENT Gospel!
How dare she say that Jesus didn't even know her secret knowledge.
In Christ we are made whole, we don't need any outside "secret knowledge" that Christ didn't know.
I realize I'm making a strong statement here, but in Matthew 24, Jesus warned of False Christs.
Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. Christ in us the hope of glory.
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SoftTouch
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Brother Ripp made these observations after visiting your site which you left a link to in your original post.
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Originally posted by Ripp:
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Hello, how are you? Fine I hope! Let me introduce myself...(not to toot my own horn, but...)I am a Christian prophetess by most people's standards, for I have been given dreams, visions and messages from the Word that have come to pass.
I would be very careful of pride. Although you might be receiving messages from God, claiming to be a prophetess is very dangerous if you ask me.
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I have been visited by a few different angels and it has been a long journey getting to this journal website.
Well, although this is not impossible, like Soft said, it makes me uneasy.
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From the Lord Father who is my God…he reveals that which he wants to whomever he wants.
It has been 5 weeks since the Mighty Angel came to earth. Actually 36 days…I would expect something to happen in 3-5 days.
I am filled with the Angel of mercy and He is here with me until the end. He wills me to do what God has planned for me. There are just a few things that I will tell you from God Almighty and it has to come from his Holy Word.
Well, I certainly hope you mean you are filled with the Holy Spirit.
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The Lord Jesus is a Mighty Angel…an Angel above all others except his Father.
Just curious, do you believe that Jesus is the Son of god?
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If you are denying me then you are denying the Lord’s Spirit and this would be considered a blaspheme against the Holy Spirit and will never be forgiven. Do not tell someone that they have an evil Spirit in them for you do not know who you are talking to and may be saying that God’s Spirit is evil. You should be able to recognize truth when you hear it. It is straight out of the Bible that God has given me hidden truths.
This is uncomfortable to my Spirit. We are to follow the Lord and His Word. We are to accept Jesus Christ as our Savior. If I disagree with some of your beliefs, that does not make me a blasphemer.
I will pray for your discernment. God bless and stay strong. ![[Bible]](graemlins/bible.gif) ![[Cross]](graemlins/cross.gif) ![[Prayer]](graemlins/prayer.gif)
ChristineRH - I must tell you that I agree with the observations and statements made by Brother Ripp above. These things concern me (and others).
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Psalm 119:104Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way. 105Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
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ChristineRH
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Jude 8
In the very same way, these dreamers pollute their own bodies, reject authority and slander celestial beings.
1 Corinthians 4:6
For God,who said, "Let light shine out of darkness," made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
1 Thessalonians 5:15
Make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always try to be kind to each other and to everyone else.
2 Timothy 1:8
So do not be ashamed to testify about our Lord, or ashamed of me his prisoner. But join with me in suffering for the gospel, by the power of God
In all things I will only give what the Lord gives me...I will try to answer questions if the Lord gives me scripture to use as an answer. I hope all who want to will obey all of the teachings of Jesus...in this way they are showing God that they love him.
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-17- ...remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. -18- They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires."
-19- These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit."
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Pauls teachings are quite clear -
An unbelieving husband or wife is sanctified or "set apart" - NOT saved...
10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.
12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him.
14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.
15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
You can, by being a believer, ensure they are set apart, but it is THEY who MUST make the choice to receive Christ - They ARE NOT saved just because they are married to a saved Christian.
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Here are a couple more posts on your site that I would like to get a broader interpretation from you:
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I remember that her husband was a saved Christian and she was only saved because of being his wife. It will be difficult for people who are saved because of who they are married to or because of being in the family of a saved person. They may be embarrassed of there past lives and will feel out of place when around people who to there Father are like saints. Many people will be as babies in their faith and or knowledge of the faith.
Are you suggesting that anyone married to a saved person will be saved as well? So, if a husband does not believe in Jesus Christ but his wife does, will he go to heaven?
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Some of the most common mistakes is not being merciful and not being a peacemaker….Those are two things that our President is not doing…let the Lord our God be the one to judge and punish those who are evil…protect ourselves? Yes! Cause destruction and death? No!
Although this is on the political side, I have to disagree with you here. Death and destruction was caused by the terrorists and still is today. Saddam murdered thousands upon thousands of innocent people. Is Iraq and the world not better off without him?
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I stand corrected as I have always been focused on verse 3. I would definately like to hear opinions of what verse 5 means.
Thanks for pointint that out Favor. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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Brother Ripp -
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Jesus said that He was THE way. No mention of water.
John 3:5
Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.
Hi Christine -
I received one of your emails sent to both of my websites.
I have read some of your writings - Very interesting.
I am curious to know what your thoughts are on the upcoming removal of the restrainer.
The word teaches us that the restrainer will be removed to make way for the man of lawlessness to step up and proclaim himself God after he establishes a vast sense of security and false hope and false peace among the people who are left on Earth.
Please share with me your thoughts on this and what you believe God has revealed to you.
Numbers 12:6
he said, "Listen to my words: "When a prophet of the LORD is among you, I reveal myself to him in visions, I speak to him in dreams.
Acts 2:17
“ ‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
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Hello, how are you? Fine I hope! Let me introduce myself...(not to toot my own horn, but...)I am a Christian prophetess by most people's standards, for I have been given dreams, visions and messages from the Word that have come to pass.
I would be very careful of pride. Although you might be receiving messages from God, claiming to be a prophetess is very dangerous if you ask me.
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I have been visited by a few different angels and it has been a long journey getting to this journal website.
Well, although this is not impossible, like Soft said, it makes me uneasy.
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From the Lord Father who is my God…he reveals that which he wants to whomever he wants.
It has been 5 weeks since the Mighty Angel came to earth. Actually 36 days…I would expect something to happen in 3-5 days.
I am filled with the Angel of mercy and He is here with me until the end. He wills me to do what God has planned for me. There are just a few things that I will tell you from God Almighty and it has to come from his Holy Word.
Well, I certainly hope you mean you are filled with the Holy Spirit.
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The Lord Jesus is a Mighty Angel…an Angel above all others except his Father.
Just curious, do you believe that Jesus is the Son of god?
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You must be born of water and of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said that He was THE way. No mention of water.
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If you are denying me then you are denying the Lord’s Spirit and this would be considered a blaspheme against the Holy Spirit and will never be forgiven. Do not tell someone that they have an evil Spirit in them for you do not know who you are talking to and may be saying that God’s Spirit is evil. You should be able to recognize truth when you hear it. It is straight out of the Bible that God has given me hidden truths.
This is uncomfortable to my Spirit. We are to follow the Lord and His Word. We are to accept Jesus Christ as our Savior. If I disagree with some of your beliefs, that does not make me a blasphemer.
Although I'm sure your intentions are genuine Christine, I would pray about some things that I have mentioned. Pride is something that we all must work on as our flesh will try and reach out and grab it. I too have been given information from God but I, as we all must, have to be very careful about how we come to this 'knowledge' and what we do with it. It can be difficult sometimes to discern His Word from YOUR word. It is sometimes best to pray about these things over time before running with them.
I will pray for your discernment. God bless and stay strong.
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LaurieFL
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In agreement with you, Soft Touch.
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SoftTouch
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http://journals.aol.com/creynoldsh/BibleTruthsRevealed4144K/
The following are two excerpts from the above link:
“With the Lord’s Spirit in me I speak what he speaks. The secret wisdom is reserved for the people who love God…this is a True love that comes from us when we obey the Lord in his Truth….the Truth being the Lord’s teaching…The secret the Lord will share with those who obey the Lord’s teachings will be a Word that God prepares about the end times…The Day of the Lord….This Word will reveal his hidden thoughts from the verses of the Holy Bible…This is an incredible Word from the Lord and is definitely something that no one has ever seen, heard or mind that has conceived of…Even Jesus did not know about this secret word…if he did then we would know about it too for we have the mind of Christ.”
“Please pray for wisdom when reading the Word that I received from the one and only true God. If you accept me then you accept the one who sent me. If you do not accept me then you should examine your faith...Do you do all you can to obey the teachings of Christ? In obeying the teachings of Christ, we show the Lord that we love him. Please give great thought to what Jesus taught and then obey his Words…These teachings come from God.”
This is causing a very uneasy feeling in my spirit and I’m not quite sure what to say just yet… I’m praying about it. Anyone else?
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Discipline the lost? No. The Bible says that the lost are already condemned by their lack of salvation. It is our place to show them the Way, the Truth and the Life - Yeshua.
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ChristineRH
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If you obey the teachings of Jesus, should you discipline the people like Larry king who do not think it is wrong for Gay people to lead a gay life. I e-mailed him.Hi,
my name is Christine and I Love God and am always trying to obey the Lord Jesus Christ's teachings...if you are like that or would like to be that way then please pray for the Lord to let you know about his secret wisdom....it is talked about in 1 Corinthians 2:6-16.
The Lord God has been very good to me and has blessed me with his secret wisdom. If you are ready to receive it then click on the link below...May God bless you with his Secret Wisdom.
http://journals.aol.com/creynoldsh/BibleTruthsRevealed4144K/
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Jude 17-19
-17- ...remember what the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ foretold. -18- They said to you, "In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires."
-19- These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit."
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