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Military Orders
To Obey or Not to Obey?

When one enlists in the United States Military, active duty or reserve, they take the following oath:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice.
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Military discipline and effectiveness is built on the foundation of obedience to orders. Recruits are taught to obey, immediately and without question, orders from their superiors, right from day-one of boot camp.

Military members who fail to obey the lawful orders of their superiors risk serious consequences. Article 90 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) makes it a crime for a military member to WILLFULLY disobey a superior commissioned officer. Article 91 makes it a crime to WILLFULLY disobey a superior Noncommissioned or Warrant Officer. Article 92 makes it a crime to disobey any lawful order (the disobedience does not have to be "willful" under this article).

In fact, under Article 90, during times of war, a military member who willfully disobeys a superior commissioned officer can be sentenced to death.

Seems like pretty good motivation to obey any order you're given, right? Nope. These articles require the obedience of LAWFUL orders. An order which is unlawful not only does not need to be obeyed, but obeying such an order can result in criminal prosecution of the one who obeys it. Military courts have long held that military members are accountable for their actions even while following orders -- if the order was illegal.

"I was only following orders," has been unsuccessfully used as a legal defense in hundreds of cases (probably most notably by Nazi leaders at the Nuremberg tribunals following World War II). The defense didn't work for them, nor has it worked in hundreds of cases since.

The first recorded case of a United States Military officer using the "I was only following orders" defense dates back to 1799. During the War with France, Congress passed a law making it permissible to seize ships bound to any French Port. However, when President John Adams wrote the order to authorize the U.S. Navy to do so, he wrote that Navy ships were authorized to seize any vessel bound for a French port, or traveling from a French port. Pursuant to the President's instructions, a U.S. Navy captain seized a Danish Ship (the Flying Fish), which was en route from a French Port. The owners of the ship sued the Navy captain in U.S. maritime court for trespass. They won, and the United States Supreme Court upheld the decision. The U.S. Supreme Court held that Navy commanders "act at their own peril" when obeying presidential orders when such orders are illegal.

The Vietnam War presented the United States military courts with more cases of the "I was only following orders" defense than any previous conflict. The decisions during these cases reaffirmed that following manifestly illegal orders is not a viable defense from criminal prosecution. In United States v. Keenan, the accused (Keenan) was found guilty of murder after he obeyed in order to shoot and kill an elderly Vietnamese citizen. The Court of Military Appeals held that "the justification for acts done pursuant to orders does not exist if the order was of such a nature that a man of ordinary sense and understanding would know it to be illegal." (Interestingly, the soldier who gave Keenan the order, Corporal Luczko, was acquitted by reason of insanity)

Defending oneself or State against a Moztect Militant needs no order per our Constitution and the Laws of God!

SHARIA LAW AND CONSTITUTIONAL LAW CAN NOT CO-EXIST.
Under Sharia law:
* There is no freedom of religion
* There is no freedom of speech
* There is no freedom of the press
* There is no equality of people (a non-muslim is never equal to a muslim
* There are no equal rights for women
* Women can be beaten
* Non-muslims can not bear arms
* There is no democracy and all governments must ruled by Sharia
* There is no equal protection for different classes of people..Justice is dualistic… one set of laws for muslims males and a different set of laws for muslim females and non muslims.
It is the responsibility of all Americans to learn about Sharia law and political islam… Religious Islam and Political Islam do not exist separately. Where one takes root, the other follows.. Turning a blind eye in the name of religious tolerance is part of the plan.
THEIR PLAN… NOT MINE…
EDUCATION IS THE FIRST STEP TO STOPPING THE ISLAMIZATION OF THE WEST. – (C) JAN MORGAN —

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/militarylaw1/a/obeyingorders.htm

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What Does the Word of God Say About Government - 3/28/2014

The Bible teaches that God has ordained human government. But what about wicked governments? Did God set them up? The answer may surprise you. Dr. Rogers shares what our responsibilities are, as believers, to our government.

http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/love-worth-finding/listen/what-does-the-word-of-god-say-about-government-394914.html

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