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Topic: Reconciliation, an accomplished fact
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clark
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many people think today they can make to heaven on their own but what you posted is the truth
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God's word is truth
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Chaplain Bob
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I'm not rebuking anyone. I just think it's rather odd for someone to post a truth that every believer learns early on if not before they're saved. If the poster expected a debate he's not going to get it here.
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Bob Allen
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walkbyfaith
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Thank you for your post. Truth spoken should never be stepped on, even if we already know it. Do good unto one another? Think God does not know what you need before you ask? Do we still ask? How would you feel Chaplain Bob if God rebuked you for praying just because he already knew what you needed? Careful what you sew for in God we reap the same.
I don't say this as if I am anybody, but God is true and every man a liar.
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Caretaker
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Originally posted by newnature:
Reconciliation is an accomplished fact. It is entirely outside of yourself, and it is simply to be received. There is a new view of living, no longer for self, but for God; to die to self and live to Christ.
God has taken the initiative to reconcile man back to himself. God is not reconciled to man, as though God were partly to blame for the enmity. Rather, man is reconciled to God, for it is man who moved away from God. When people need to be reconciled to one another, it normally involves a situation where fault lies on both sides to some degree. Not so with the case between man and God, man has moved away from God, and it is man who needs to be reconciled back to God, not God back to man.
The basic idea of reconciling is to change or make otherwise. This is the reverse of Hellenistic religion, where it is the human being that seeks restoration of the gods’ favor, and also of Judaism, where confession of sin and repentance are the means by which reconciliation with God is sought. It is not that we must reconcile ourselves to God. Rather, we are to be reconciled, that is, to accept what God has already achieved.
It is not merely that we acquire a right standing or do good works; we actually become righteous. For through what Christ had accomplished, we truly assume his righteousness, just as Christ assumed our sin. If our debts are not posted to our account, it is because someone else has legally assumed them. Christ righteousness ours, and our sin his.
Bless your heart for sharing. It is always great to be reminded of God's Truth, and I appreciate your posting.
God bless you.
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Drew
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16: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh..
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Chaplain Bob
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I think your preaching to the choir here. I doubt if any or our members do not know these facts.
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newnature
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Reconciliation is an accomplished fact. It is entirely outside of yourself, and it is simply to be received. There is a new view of living, no longer for self, but for God; to die to self and live to Christ.
God has taken the initiative to reconcile man back to himself. God is not reconciled to man, as though God were partly to blame for the enmity. Rather, man is reconciled to God, for it is man who moved away from God. When people need to be reconciled to one another, it normally involves a situation where fault lies on both sides to some degree. Not so with the case between man and God, man has moved away from God, and it is man who needs to be reconciled back to God, not God back to man.
The basic idea of reconciling is to change or make otherwise. This is the reverse of Hellenistic religion, where it is the human being that seeks restoration of the gods’ favor, and also of Judaism, where confession of sin and repentance are the means by which reconciliation with God is sought. It is not that we must reconcile ourselves to God. Rather, we are to be reconciled, that is, to accept what God has already achieved.
It is not merely that we acquire a right standing or do good works; we actually become righteous. For through what Christ had accomplished, we truly assume his righteousness, just as Christ assumed our sin. If our debts are not posted to our account, it is because someone else has legally assumed them. Christ righteousness ours, and our sin his.
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God’s Reconciliation of Man, read more about it at http://godsreconciliation.blogspot.com/
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