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Eden
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So someone may say, "I thought that all the high mountains of the earth were under water, so how could Noah's ark land at 7,300 feet elevation on the mountains of Ararat when the highest peak of Ararat was 16,854 feet?"
Let's look at what the Bible says:
Genesis 7
18 And the waters prevailed and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.
19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills that were under the whole heaven, were covered.
Let's look at the Strong's Concordance:
Genesis 7:19 And the waters 4325 prevailed 1396 exceedingly 3966 3966 upon the earth 776; and all the high 1364 hills 2022, that [were] under 8478 the whole heaven 8064, were covered 3680.
hills 2022 HAR, a shortened form of 2042; a mountain or range of hills (sometimes used figuratively):--hill (country), mount(-ain), X promotion.
Here we see that the word used in Genesis 7:19 is HAR, which can mean "hill" or "mountain".
So let's look at the next verse:
Genesis 7
20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
Note that from v.19 into v.20, the waters only went 15 cubits higher. A Biblical cubit is about 18 inches or a foot and a half. So 15 times a foot and a half = about 23 feet that the water went higher after v.19.
But note that v.20 above in the KJV also says that the mountains were covered.
But guess what? This word mountains is again the word HAR:
Strong's Concordance
Genesis 7:20 Fifteen 6240 2568 cubits 520 upward 4605 did the waters 4325 prevail 1396; and the mountains 2022 were covered 3680.
mountains 2022; here in v.20 we see that the same word HAR 2022 is used as was used in v.19 where it said that the high hills HAR 2022 were covered.
And then in v.20, the waters had gone 23 feet (15 cubits) higher and now more HAR 2022 are covered.
So we see that in both cases the word HAR was used, with only a 23-foot difference between the first group of har hills and the second group of har hills.
And after this Genesis 7 says nothing more about the waters going higher, as we can see below in the rest of the verses of Genesis 7:
Genesis 7
21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:
22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.
23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.
24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.
So the above can explain why Noah's ark did not have to land on the 16,854 foot summit of the mountains of Ararat and can have landed at a lower elevation, such as 7,300 feet.
However, the waters were upon the earth for 150 days and did recede, meaning that at one time the ark would have been at a higher elevation than 7,300 feet, and from that higher elevation, as the water receded and lowered, the ark at some point landed at the 7,300 foot level:
Genesis 8
3 And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the 150 days the waters were abated.
4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat.
5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.
Strong's Concordance
Genesis 8:4 And the ark 8392 rested 5117 in the seventh 7637 month 2320, on the seventeenth 6240 7651 day 3117 of the month 2320, upon the mountains 2022 of Ararat 780.
Genesis 8:5 And the waters 4325 decreased 2637 continually 1980 until 5704 the tenth 6224 month 2320: in the tenth 6224 [month], on the first 259 [day] of the month 2320, were the tops 7218 of the mountains 2022 seen 7200.
And just to note how common that word har was, I quote the following:
Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only [son] Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains 2022 which I will tell thee of.
So here we see that Moriah, one of the hills of Jerusalem, is a HAR 2022.
Mount Moriah is a ridge that ranges in elevation from approximately 1969 feet at the south end of the junction of the Kidron and Hinnom valleys to a maximum of 2549 feet to the north.
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MentorsRiddle
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Carol,
[/quote] "Or perhaps this discovery should be seen as a good reason to accept the Bible at its word."
No, MentorsRiddle, this is good. He's saying those people should believe the Bible.[/quote]
Sorry, I misread that to think they were saying stuff in favor of the alien thing.
Eden I’m glad you liked the article.
Your take on it was very interesting
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Hi, MentorsRiddle, nice pictures too. I have known about Ron Wyatt for some time but this article provided and/or refreshed some nice details, like the stone anchors and the iron works, pretty fascinating.
I think the article said that this "ark" was located at 6,300 feet elevation, but that originally it had slid down from about 1,000 feet higher up, or from about 7,300 feet elevation.
But mount Ararat is 16,854 feet high. However, what a lot of Bible students have overlooked is that the book of Genesis says that the ark landed on the mountains (plural) of Ararat:
Genesis 8:4
And the Ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat.
In geography, when we speak of, say, the mountains of Appalachia, both the foothills and the median elevations and the top elevations of the mountains of Appalachia are included in the phrase
"mountains of Appalachia".
Likewise also the mountains of Ararat INCLUDED the foothhills and the median elevations and the top elevations of the mountains of Ararat.
That's why it is perfectly fine and still Biblical that the ark of Noah landed at the 7,300 foot elevation of the mountains of Ararat instead of on the summit of 16,854 foot elevation.
Indeed, the peaks of the mountains of Ararat have a perpetual ice cap on it, so it would have been highly unpractical if Noah's ark had landed right on the icy summit and then the animals, many of which would have been warm-climate animals, would not have been able to withstand the freezing cold on the icy summit of the mountains of Ararat.
It is therefore entirely reasonable that Noah's ark got stuck on a peak at the 7,300 foot level and then slid down through an earthquake, such as the 1948 earthquake, to the 6,300 foot level.
Lastly it is interesting that if this 1948 earthquake was instrumental in sliding the ark down to a more visible aerial position, it is very interesting that this 1948 earthquake happened right after November 29, 1947 when the United Nations voted for a Jewish State in Zion-Palestine.
But in any case, the mountains (plural) include the foothills, median elevations and top elevations, ALL are included in "the mountains of Ararat":
Genesis 8:4
And the Ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on the mountains of Ararat.
Thanks for posting that article, MentorsRiddle.
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"Or perhaps this discovery should be seen as a good reason to accept the Bible at its word."
No, MentorsRiddle, this is good. He's saying those people should believe the Bible.
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MentorsRiddle
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Wow, Carol.
I didn't even see that part of the article or I wouldn't have even posted it....
Now I'm sorry I did.
That type of junk makes me sick.
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Impressive! I love this kind of stuff. The last paragraph made me laugh.
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...and other ancient writing might actually be correct when they speak of an extraterrestrial connection. The plural of god -- Elohim -- is used even in Genesis. Who were these "gods" and how did they walk the Earth and interact with humans of the era...
Or perhaps this discovery should be seen as a good reason to accept the Bible at its word.
Thanks for posting this.
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This isn't strictly a bible study.
The the article does have biblical references, so I suppose it is a bible study of sorts.
I found this article so compelling I had to share it with the rest of you.
It's long, but trust me when I say it's worth the read.
http://www.viewzone.com/noah.html
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