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Carol Swenson
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Major events of the bible seem to happen on days that were set aside (made Holy) by God. To me, the fact that the events surrounding Christ death and the giving of the Holy Spirit followed God’s calendar, is a proof text that these events are from God.
So we can expect that fulfillment of the divine promises in the future will also occur on God's special days. I think that as the Rapture relates to the Feast of Trumpets, the establishment of the 1000 year Kingdom relates to The Feast of Tabernacles.

Very interesting about the 3000.

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Good writing by both Cornelius Stam (as posted by WildB) and by becauseHElives ... good stuff.

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very good post....

To understand this completely we must know what happen at the first Feast of Pentecost?

50 days after Jesus’ resurrection, God sent the Holy Spirit. It was the feast of Pentecost. This story from Acts 2 is well known to most Christians.

What may be overlooked is that this day was not the origins of Pentecost.

Pentecost (Greek) or Shavuot (Hebrew) was set up by God back in the time of Moses (Lev. 23) to be a festival of celebration to God for once again providing their life giving crop of wheat. As I mentioned in my overview of the feasts, this is also traditionally thought to be the time that the Israelites received the law. If you think about it, this is the right time frame. Passover was the final plague upon Egypt, and the Israelites left Egypt on the Feast of Unleavened Bread. The feast of First Fruits could come 1 to 6 days later and while I have not read any theories of what happened then, my guess is that it is probably when the Israelites passed through the Red (or Reed) sea. This theory makes sense to me because passing through the Sea was a form of Baptism for Israel, and coming out of the Baptism waters is a picture of new life which is what First Fruits is about. After the feast of First Fruits, the Israelites would then have 10 days to get to Mt. Sinai. After 40 days on the mountain, Moses came down with two stone tablets from God.

There is an interesting fact that connects these two events. After the Apostles received the Holy Spirit and preached the Gospel to the crowd, Acts 2:16 says that “about 3000 people were added to their number that day”. Many years earlier on the first Pentecost when Moses came down from Mt. Sinai he found the crowd “misbehaving”. He called the faithful to his side and had them slaughter people. Exodus 32:28 says that about 3000 people died. Law given – 3000 people die. Holy Spirit given – 3000 people given new life. God is a good accountant!

Pentecost concludes the spring feasts, and I hope we are starting to see a pattern.

Passover – Christ is crucified
Unleavened Bread – Christ is in the Grave
First Fruits – Christ rises
Pentecost – Holy Spirit given

Major events of the bible seem to happen on days that were set aside (made Holy) by God. To me, the fact that the events surrounding Christ death and the giving of the Holy Spirit followed God’s calendar, is a proof text that these events are from God.

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Strive to enter in at the strait gate:for many, I say unto you will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. ( Luke 13:24 )

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by Cornelius R. Stam
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The one hundred twenty disciples in the Upper Room had, of course, been much like any other group of believers in history. They had not all been equally spiritual or devoted, or faithful. Some had been more so than others, and where some had excelled in one virtue, others had excelled in another. Yet now they were all FILLED with the Spirit, from the least to the greatest of them.

The thoughtful student of Scripture will, of course, ask why all these believers were now filled with the Holy Spirit. Was it, perhaps, because they, as a group, had been more godly than those before them? The gospel records prove that this is not so. Peter boasted, Thomas doubted, James and John sought personal gain, and when our Lord was taken prisoner, "they all forsook Him and fled."

Was it then because they had prayed long enough or earnestly enough for the Spirit to come upon them and take control? No; they had been instructed to go to Jerusalem, not to pray for the Holy Spirit to come, as some suppose, but to "wait for the [fulfillment of the] promise" regarding the Spirit (Acts 1: 4,5) -- and right here is the answer to our question.

The believers at Pentecost were filled with the Holy Spirit, not because they had prayed long or earnestly enough for the Spirit to come, but because the time had arrived for the fulfillment of the divine promise. The Old Testament prophets and the Lord Jesus had promised that the Holy Spirit should some day come to take control of God's people (Ezek. 36:26,27), and that day had come. They were filled with the Spirit because God, according to His promise, had baptized them with the Spirit (Acts 1:5).

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