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Eden
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dear TBofH777, you wrote quote:
Sorry Eden I didn't know you were a newly born again Christian.
What gave you that idea? LOL. I have been saved since 1980, or saved for 28 years, so I am at least 28 years old.
love, Eden
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The Beauty of Holiness777
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James 5:16
Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another that ye maybe healed, The effectual (effective, desired effect) fervent (great intense feeling) of a righteous man availeth much.
The mere fact of a person praying doesn't prove everything about his or her soul. But diligence in prayer is the surest of eminet holiness. Prayer is a christian mightiest weapon against the devil.
Men should always pray and not faint. Pray and pray without ceasing.
Vain repetitions means nothing to God in prayer nor does selfish prayers.
But when we pray with sincerity, with love for others totally submitting our plans, our desires, family and all the other things we pray for unto Him who is all knowing, who doesn't make mistakes it is then that our prayers become prayers that availeths much.
It is not God's Will that need changing it is our will that need to be change. For His Will will be done regardless for He worketh everything after the council of His own Will. (Ephesians 1:11)
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Carol Swenson
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There is no power in dull, listless praying. If there is no fire on the altar, the incense will not rise to God (Ps. 141:2). Real praying demands spiritual energy and alertness, and this can come only from the Holy Spirit of God. Routine prayers are unanswered prayers.
Our praying should also be thankful: “Watch in the same with thanksgiving” (Col. 4:2). Thanksgiving is an important ingredient in successful praying (Phil. 4:6). If all we do is ask, and never thank God for His gifts, we are selfish. Sincere gratitude to God is one of the best ways to put fervor into our praying.
The purpose of prayer is not to get man’s will done in heaven, but to get God’s will done on earth. Prayer is not telling God what to do or what to give. Prayer is asking God for that which He wants to do and give, according to His will (1 John 5:14-15). As we read the Word and fellowship with our Father, we discover His will and then boldly ask Him to do what He has planned. Richard Trench (1807-1886), archbishop of Dublin, said it perfectly: “Prayer is not overcoming God’s reluctance; it is laying hold of His willingness.”
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The Beauty of Holiness777
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Eden I was just wondering upon reading you reply the last paragraph and the last sentence which said;
The more the new Christian learns of God, the more naturally does he find himself praising THIS
God of his.
If this was an error of you misusing a word which I hope it was then I consider it and error. If not please explain.
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The Beauty of Holiness777
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Sorry Eden I didn't know you were a newly born again Christian. I didn't mean to offend you in anyway. Neither am I one to constantly debate on God's Word I only state what the Word of God's says that I know is true; and on His Word will I stand.
I said sinners give God thanks because I have been around them and heard them say it. I speak what I know they even give God thanks in Church Services. Even some of them see the works of God give and know that no one else did it but God.
Psalm 150 Says; Let everything that has breath prasie the LORD.
Sinners prasie and give God thanks but the difference is it is not an acceptable praise for their hearts (minds) are far off. Even Lucifier who was the Archangel at one time gave God thanks and praise but nevertheless, his heart was far off. Just lip service as we love to call it.
Betty if you think I was trying to up Eden in any way I apologize for that as well. I think my response was not petty at all if you really weigh both issues for I was not trying legislate anything.
None of us who are in Christ Jesus are at the same point everyday. (Lord knows I am not) due to other distractions as I previously stated). But seeking God first is something I do truly work at through prayer, fasting and reading His Word.
The way that I think and want to seek Him is my desire and it is personal; and I am not trying to legislate or force it on anyone else. Didn't realize I came off trying to be holier than thou for God has no respected person. But I do strive to live Holy for that is my reasonable service and one thing I do know:
AT the cross the ground is level there are no big I's and little You's.
Peace and Love to All ![[hug]](graemlins/hug.gif)
And to God be the Glory! Honor! and Praise. ![[clap2]](graemlins/clap2.gif)
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Betty Louise
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Some how I do not see a sinner getting up every morning and thanking God for the day.
TBoH777, I don't know if you realize it but you came off trying to be Holier then thou.
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You and Eden both had good points and I do not see why you think you have to up him one.
Truth is I think we as Christians are not always at the same point every day. Sometimes physical problems can get us off track and sometimes it is life itself. But on bad days we are still God's children and He still loves us. Eden was adding his prospective and your response was petty at the least. We can share our thoughts with each other in love and not allow the devil to influence us to be cruel to one another.
We are brothers and sisters in Christ. Let us show love to one another.
betty
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Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
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Eden
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Hello, TBoH777, you are way out there, in God's Universe...LOL
But you wrote quote:
Eden where on earth do you get the idea that this is something that can be legislated or just wished to be done. Even a sinner can get up in the morning and say "Thank You Lord" for allowing them to see another day.
The sinner COULD say that but probably won't. quote:
When the scripture say Seek ye first the Kingdom of God it is going farther than saying "Thank You Lord" for all you have done. God rains on the just and the unjust with His mercy.
My primary emotion for God during the day is thankfulness for all He and Jesus and the Holy Spirit have done and are doing so more abundantly every day. quote:
Seeking God means denying oneself knowing things are {NOT??} always comfortable at times but since I want more of God this is what I have to do. For God is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him.
Seeking God is not always comfortable in that something I have to "forcefully remind myself that it is wise to pick up the Bible and learn more of God", and then I DO it too. It is as you say, TBoH777, "For God is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him."
But a newly bornagain Christian probably first needs to CULTIVATE that thankful realization for all that God has done for him. The more the new Christian learns of God, the more naturally does he find himself praising this God of his.
love, Eden
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The Beauty of Holiness777
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Eden where on earth do you get the idea that this is something that can be legislated or just wished to be done. Even a sinner can get up in the morning and say "Thank You Lord" for allowing them to see another day. Nevertheless, that don't make them saved! When the scripture say Seek ye first the Kingdom of God it is going farther than saying "Thank YOu Lord" for all you have done. God rains on the just and the unjust with His mercy.
Seeking God is not something I wish I could do it is something I DO. If you also notice I said this is something that is easier said than none due to distractions. Seeking the Kingdom of God first means diligently seeking Him and His Will. Diligently going after God at any length and obeying His Word.
Seeking God means denying oneself knowing things are always comfortable at times but since I want more of God this is what I have to do. For God is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him.
Morning, evening, and night will I seek Him.
Ps. 55:17
Evening and morning, and at noon, will I pray and cry aloud, and He shall hear me.
Ps.5:3
My voice shall thou hear in the morning, O Lord, in the morning will I direct (my prayer) unto thee and look up.
Are you in prayer morning, evening and night? Are you in God's Word daily with fasting, and taking time out to be alone with God. Obeying His Word and doing His Will.
This Eden is "Seeking ye first the Kingdom of God" and everything else will be added unto thee.
For God is a rewarder of those that diligently "Seek Him."
And to God be the Glory!!
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Eden
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Hi, TBoH777, you wrote quote:
Seeking God's Kingdom first implies that we seek it first in point of time. It should be the first thing attended to, the first thought of the morning should be given to it. (Even though this is easier said than done at times due to life many distractions.)
Dear friend, I find that this "first thing in the morning" is not something that can be legislated or just wished to be done.
The one thing that I thank God for so much is what Jesus Christ did for me (and what God did for me by allowing it), and I am so thankful for that by now that the first thing that comes out of my heart in the morning is "Thank You Lord!!!".
This is something that happened over time. Now I'm thanking Him all the time. But that is acquired, not by legislating it as in your writing, "Seeking God's Kingdom first implies that we seek it first in point of time. It should be the first thing attended to, the first thought of the morning should be given to it."
It now happens to me because I have been reading the Word of God and by listening to God's Holy Spirit in me, and so on.
Regarding "seek you first the kingdom of God", it does not matter at what time of day or night we seek the kingdom of God, as long as we seek His kingdom regularly and seek to get to know Him more and more.
But it does not have to be first in the morning. Some are morning persons, others are late night persons. Waa-ever.
love, Eden
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The Beauty of Holiness777
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Seek ye first the kingdom of God and all these things shall be added unto you.
1. Seek to belong to His Kingdom. (God)
2. Seek to know Him and His Will.
3. Seek to be recognized or known as one of
God's servants.
4. Seek to be ruled by Christ now as the Holy in
in heaven are.
The greatest business in our lives is to seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness. Nothing else is allowed to have any importance compared with this.
Seeking God's Kingdom first implies that we seek it first in point of time. It should be the first thing attended to, the first thought of the morning should be given to it. (Even though this is easier said than done at times due to life many distractions.)
We should make the time before anything else to let the concern of our souls be with the Kingdom of God and His righteousness; and seeking it with the highest earnestness.
Time is short and the fact that we know not how short it is renders it indespensable that we should seek it immediately!
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