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The Beauty of Holiness777
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When Paul speak of "I" he is mainly talking about the flesh man. Which is daily at war with the Spiritual man.
God cannot deal with flesh man totally. Paul said in my flesh dwell no good thing.
Could go farther on this about the flesh but errands call.
sIn > If we took the "I" out of sin. What would we have. No Sin. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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Eden
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The "I" of the old man has to die or at least step aside and refrain from operating the body from the "I" or soul level.
Then the "I" of the new man needs to continue to submit to allow the spirit of man to instruct the soul and then the soul needs to execute what the spirit of man said to do.
It is therefore not so much a matter of the "I" DYING (which would ELIMINATE the "I") but of the "I" STEPPING DOWN from the throne.
This is why the scripture says that the "I" must DENY ITSELF, not DIE, but DENY its Adamic sinful soul rule of the body without input from its spirit.
Once the hierarchial order has been restored, of spirit, soul, and body, then in this three-fold operation the soul, the "I" is still VERY MUCH ALIVE, indeed is more alive than ever, except that now the soul is receiving instructions instead of operating the body by its own ideas:
Hosea 13:2
And now they sin more and more ... according to their own understanding.
Proverbs 3:5
But, trust in the LORD with all your heart; and lean not unto your own understanding.
It is not the soul which must diminish, but the soul's operation of the body without input from the spirit that must diminish and stop entirely.
love, Eden
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Carol Swenson
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Isaiah 53:2 - 7 (NLT)
2 My servant grew up in the LORD’s presence like a tender green shoot, like a root in dry ground.
There was nothing beautiful or majestic about his appearance, nothing to attract us to him.
3 He was despised and rejected— a man of sorrows, acquainted with deepest grief.
We turned our backs on him and looked the other way.
He was despised, and we did not care.
4 Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down.
And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God, a punishment for his own sins!
5 But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins.
He was beaten so we could be whole.
He was whipped so we could be healed.
6 All of us, like sheep, have strayed away.
We have left God’s paths to follow our own.
Yet the LORD laid on him the sins of us all.
7 He was oppressed and treated harshly, yet he never said a word.
He was led like a lamb to the slaughter.
And as a sheep is silent before the shearers, he did not open his mouth.
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Carol Swenson
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Good post ![[thumbsup2]](graemlins/thumbsup2.gif)
To be willing to put personal desires and life itself into God’s hands means to understand that nothing that we can gain on our own in our earthly lives can compare to what we gain with Christ. Jesus wants us to choose to follow him rather than to lead a life of sin and self-satisfaction. He wants us to stop trying to control our own destiny and to let him direct us.
This makes good sense because, as the Creator, Christ knows better than we do what real life is about. He asks for submission, not self-hatred; he asks us only to lose our self-centered determination to be in charge.
The possibility of losing their lives was very real for the disciples as well as for Jesus. Real discipleship implies real commitment—pledging our whole existence to his service. If we try to save our physical lives from death, pain, or discomfort, we begin to die spiritually and emotionally. Our lives turn inward, and we lose our intended purpose. When we give our lives in service to Christ, however, we discover the real purpose of living.
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The Beauty of Holiness777
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If any man will come after me let him deny himself and take up his cross, and follow me. (Matthew 16:24)
Matthew 16:25-26 says;
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; and whosoever will lose his life for My sake shall find it.
For what is a man profited if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul.
For those of us who truly seek God with a hunger and passion God will truly reveal more of Himself to us if we are willing to die to ourselves. We gain only that intimate knowledge of God when we are willing to "die daily."
(1 Corinthians 15:31)
There are no shortcuts to God's Glory for there is no gain without pain. For God to increase within us we must decrease.
The greatest blessing doesn't come from God's Hands; It comes from seeking His Face in a intimate relationship.
ALL FLESH DIES IN HIS GLORY ALL THAT IS OF HIS SPIRIT LIVES FOREVER IN HIS GLORY!
And to God be the Glory! ![[clap2]](graemlins/clap2.gif)
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