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Topic: Where are the 100% bible believers today?
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blindfaith101
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But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. MATTHEW 4:4 KJV
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 1 TIMOTHY 3:17,17KJV
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Eden
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Hi, Christine-liu. I think the Bible is no longer inerrant because it has some copying mistakes in it at this point, but the Bible IS INFALLIBLE, which means what it says in there CANNOT FAIL TO HAPPEN. That's what I believe.
May God help us to love our neighbors as ourselves, and especially the household of God.
Eden
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Christine-liu
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I'm a new believer, and at the beginning I've got many questions about Bible; I try to "persuade" myself to regard Bible as a perfect book without any mistakes or faults, and the reason why I feel confused is my limits as a person.
Why do I not believe? For I judge by my own experiences. Stop doing that and I think more people will find our Lord and Truth.
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I'm a new but resolute believer in China.
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aiopj
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Originally posted by PresbyGirl:
If you judge people, you have no time to love them. -- Mother Teresa
In fact, it is because I love them that I judge Righteously -- that is, according to the Word of God, not according to my own standards.
The following is what I have prepared ahead of time that I usually post to scoffers who tell me that I'm not supposed to judge [So, I'm not posting it at you, as I would post it at them; rather it's purely informational here]:
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:1-5;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%202:1-3;&version=9;
Those are the favorite verses of the scoffers who, abusing the Word and completely misreading and misinterpreting verses and taking them out of context in their quest to try to defeat the Word of God, like to think that they turn the tables on those who are truly born again. Do I ever have a surprise for them!
They, in their blindness, do not realize that the Word of God -- that is, Jesus -- takes the beam out of the eye of those who are truly born again. Thus, according to the Word, those who are truly born again see clearly, according to His guidance in Truth -- that is, the Word. Those who reject Him, the Word, still have that beam in their eye. They cannot see clearly for unrighteousness. The beam blocks the view of anyone who relies on his own righteousness. Mountains are in the way of those who do not rely on the Word.
Holy Righteousness is a gift of faith in Jesus Christ. Faith removes mountains and beams.
The Lord says that His Saints -- that is, those who are truly born from Above, meaning those who are truly born again -- are to declare His Word and to judge according to His Standard, not out of self-interest, not out of prejudice:
KNOWLEDGE: http://www.amazingfacts.tv/resources/Audio/BALQALib/1220judge.asx
He says that His Saints are to judge, characterize and evaluate not according to the appearance, rather according to Righteous Judgment:
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hebrews%204:12;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus%2019:15;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208:16;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%206:2;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%207:24;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Prov.%2031:9;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%202:15;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2010:42;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2017:31;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2025:1;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%205:12;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208:26;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Kings%203:9;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Chronicles%2019:6;&version=9;
Thereby, He, not men, is exalted:
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%205:16;&version=9;
He is not exalted by unrighteous judgment-- that is, judgment that is according to the Will of men, not according to His Word. Those who judge in the unrighteous judgment will, themselves, be judged accordingly:
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%207:2;&version=9;
The Lord says that no one can judge another if the judge does the same thing for which he judges another. The Righteous are not doing the things they judge in others:
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%202:1;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%202:3;&version=9;
Thus, the Righteous are called upon to judge, according to the Word of Judgment, the evil deeds of others, to bring to bear the Word of His Testimony.
The Righteous judge in Truth because the Father is with them.
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208:16;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Corinthians%2011:31;&version=9;
The Father is not with the unrighteous. The ungodly judge according to worldly standards:
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%208:15;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%208:5;&version=9;
Those who are truly born again orient themselves according to the gift of God:
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians%206:12;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%2010:3-6;&version=9;
DATA POINT: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Corinthians%2013:8;&version=9;
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aiopj
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Originally posted by PresbyGirl:
I don't think we were ever commanded to believe in the Bible. We were commanded to believe in Jesus.
Who is the Word of God? Jesus.
The physical Book in your hand is the shadow of the real Thing.
It is only through the Word Which is the ONLY Way to the Father.
Therefore, Jesus was correct when He chastised the Pharisees for simply reading Scripture and not understanding It. Passing their eyes across pages of words in an academic exercise. Yet, gaining no Knowledge -- capitalized to indicate God's Knowledge, not men's puny knowledge.
And He criticized them for keeping Scripture from the common people and believing that only they -- that is, the Pharisees -- could understand Scripture, just as the Church of England later, and just as some, perhaps, many pastors today believe that they have special talents to understand Scripture over and above puny individuals like me who, apparently, can't read and understand.
Finally, Hebrews says that you cannot have faith without the Word, and that you cannot have the Word without faith. That seems to go with what I said above about academic reading and, further, why scoffers can't find the Truth in the Word.
So, you understand Jesus through the Word Which declares to us His Thought:
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Isa 41:26 Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.
Amo 4:13 For, lo, he that formeth the mountains, and createth the wind, and declareth unto man what is his thought...The LORD, The God of hosts, is his name.
Isa 2:5 O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.
The Light of the LORD is His Son, Jesus. The Word. God's Word is His Light.
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Rom 13:13 Let us [b[walk honestly, as in the day[/b]...
The Word, Jesus, is as day. The LORD asks us to walk with Him in the Day.
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Isa 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD...
Amo 3:3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?
If we aren't in agreement with the LORD, through His Son, the Word, we aren't walking with the LORD.
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PresbyGirl
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I don't think we were ever commanded to believe in the Bible. We were commanded to believe in Jesus. Jesus himself said to the Pharisees, You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life." The Bible points to Jesus, and it is in Him that I believe. We can get all caught up in rules and judgments when the Bible is the center of our faith lives. Many things are done in the name of Bible believing, but not in the spirit of Jesus. I love the Scriptures, but they are only here to point me to Jesus. ![[Razz]](tongue.gif)
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If you judge people, you have no time to love them. -- Mother Teresa
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tonytony
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Assume your here cause you are a 100% bible believer or person that believe all the bible is 100% true and interpreted correctly by God only.
Otherwise I'll assume your a confused person asking what the initial question answers.
For those who are 100% bible believers we need unity God's way like never before.
Great way to find out if we're equally yoked is to test you out with Paul's teaching :
Believe what Paul said about church leadership and what he said about hygiene and apparel for Christians today ? 1 Timothy 2:9-14
Believe what Paul said about divorce and remarriage for today ? Romans 7:2-3
More than a grace your saved believer ?
Romans 6:1,15
Believe Peter when he see said no bible verse can be interpreted correctly but by God only?
2 Peter 1:20-21
Believe people are Christians to be equally yoked with if they despise Paul's teachings ?
2 Corinthians 6:14-17
Believe Paul when he said all scripture is given by inspiration of God and is for doctrine, reproof, rebuke, correction, etc. ?
2 Timothy 3:16
Believe Paul when he encouraged Timothy and Christians to rebuke people in the book of Timothy?
Are we going unity God's way so far and believe Amos 3:3 ?
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