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Michael Harrison
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Well Eden, *-) it is always nice to pray together. You know, the words of you last post make me appreciate better, what you said in the post of question. See, having read so little of your posts, i couldn't read between the lines on that one message. I'm just a little tickled. God Bless.
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Michael Harrison, the reason he asked if I was Jesus was because the Holy Spirit was on me that day and the way I looked that day, a very peaceful picture, happened to be immortalized that same day when there just so happened to be a video-computer stand there. Uh, what is so confusing about that, that I need to pray with you?

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Eden you said:
//That's good stuff, Michael Harrison. One of my memorable days was when I was walking in a certain city and suddenly the focus of my being had shifted from my head, where the focus usually was, to my belly area, to the center of my body (in the middle between the head and the feet).
Anyway, it was a beautiful day, and while it was happening a man walked up to me and asked me if I was Jesus. I told him no.//

Why that is most perfectly strange. Why did he ask you if you were Jesus? And did it have anything to do with your concentrating on your - belly? I'm confused because there was somebody else around, and he took a picture of our head! I can't tell what side is up. Do you want to pray with me?

Love Michael

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Hi everybody,
Well I just noticed this thread come back to the top again and I reread the posts. I noticed that when I put my first thread in about my experience with the Holy spirit that maybe I should have included a little of what transpired before and a little of what transpired after the occurrence of mine.
First of all (and mind you this was about 13 yrs ago for me so I will try to remember more details) I was in prayer. I had gone to the Lord in prayer because I realized something and because I desired to make my intentions known to Him. What I realized is that there were some lies of the devil that were hurting a lot of people...now I dont mean this is a general sense but in a specific....as there are specific lies that the devil has people believing to thier demise. My heart was troubled over the matter because I felt helpless to adress the lies on my own. I really wanted to do something, but I had believed that God would know best how I may help them.
So in many ways my prayer was a prayer of desperation....but at the same time I believe that God was clueing me in to what specific direction He wanted to take me. Now I know that we read the bible and find out about Gods general will for all of us (trusting in Him, loving one another, etc.), but there was this exitement in me that had begun to believe that if we earnesly desire, God will guide us onto a specific call to specific needs. So my tears in prayer were not tears to invoke Gods spirit to fall on me, but they were because I had just finished reading a book(which had to do with the specific lies that I mentioned earlier) and the testimonial made me tear up. It was gut-wrenching to me and hard to bear because it was so so sad the way it ended....and all because they were unknowingly at the hands of the author of all lies.
So in this desperation to the Lord, I requested His help and guidance, and I made it known to the Lord that I would face whatever He desires to bring down the devils work. Basically, I said Lord I am yours...Please help me to help these hurting people.....at this point my heart and my belly felt like it was literally burning at a high temp......................................then the sound of wind came to me by surprise....
it filled my whole being and gave me a feeling of peace that I had never experience before in my entire life................

After this all ended what were my thoughts? Well I can tell you that I really believed that God cared for the same people that I do. I really believe that I was beginning to see Gods heart, and understand that His love and compassion for us is beyond most of our recognition. I felt a stronger sense of urgency, but still lacked much patience I will admit. I felt a stronger sense of accountability to the Lord. Certainly I felt that I was discovering specific will for my life....my confidence in Christ began to grow, but of course doubt kept trying to creep in.

So what may I impress on you that read this...that God cares about things when we think that maybe He doesnt. One thing that I have recognized is that God does have ways of cluing us in on where He wants us to be, and I believe that He will be real subtle when He wants to confirm something with you or when you are in danger and need to head another direction.

I will tell you that this verse really has come alive to me in my life........"Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you"....oh, and the verse "Cast all of your burdens upon me.....

With love in Christ, Daniel

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That's good stuff, Michael Harrison. One of my memorable days was when I was walking in a certain city and suddenly the focus of my being had shifted from my head, where the focus usually was, to my belly area, to the center of my body (in the middle between the head and the feet).

Anyway, it was a beautiful day, and while it was happening a man walked up to me and asked me if I was Jesus. I told him no.

But it so happened that there was another man near there who had a video camera setup on a tripod and this video camera was connected to a computer screen. So I paid to have my picture taken on that day of my head, and it is a most precious picture to me.

May God help us to love each other.
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Dearest Eden:

Some people here have done quite well at explaining this, but i will put in my part.

The belly is the heart. Jesus is actually referring to the heart, the center of your being. Why He chose to use the word belly i don't know, but He always has a reason. The gist of it is that,(again, this has already been touched on) as you believe in Him, rivers of living water will come forth from your heart. Water refreshes. You know, you can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink. Please note, the water that pours forth from your being will draw others! He will witness to Himself as you yield your heart to Him.

Now i will go deeper. I personally am pentecostal. I do believe that it is a blessing that no believer should miss. That said, i will explain just a little of what that means.

First of all, believers who shun pentecost as an experience that is an act of God will argue that they received the Holy Spirit when they were saved. I agree. It is by the Holy Spirit that Jesus comes into our heart, necessarily. However, my take is that when Jesus came into my heart, the Holy Spirit stopped there. It might be considered a growth issue, so you can relate back to this; and know this also, i am not trying to keep God in a box. He works in mysterious ways.

Keeping in mind that the earth is a picture of heaven, and man is created in the image of God; every man's makeup is of spirit, soul, and body. That is, the spirit is the inner layer, inside of the soul, and both are in the body. This is why scripture bespeaks of putting off the tabernacle, which is our body, the outter sheath of our makeup.

I said that when i was saved, Jesus came into my heart. It was very real, but it got more real. Remember, Paul said, "from glory to glory, He is changing me." There was another, powerful experience of the Holy Spirit. Many call it the baptism of the Holy Ghost. But what happened to me cannot be described with earthly words. This washing of regeneration was like The Blood of Jesus being poured from heaven, over the top of my head, and washing all the way to the bottom of my feet in a baptism of Holy, Heavenly love. In that moment, a spiritual eye was opened and i saw much more wonderfully that Jesus, and the Holy Spirit were real, than i did at my being born again when i first believed. This is tantamount to when Jesus said that He will send a comforter! Indeed, in blessed Jesus Name, it is so.

What happened then was that my spirit, which is the hollow inner vacuum (that was errant), which was the innermost area of my being (think of the air in a blow up Christmas decoration) was filled with the Spirit of God, to make me clean, to make me a fit habitation for the Lord. It was, in a way, like a rip-cord was pulled, and the Spirit lept from my heart to fill my whole body - well, spirit. It was and is a new dimension of relation to Him. Dimension is valuable in our walk, very. Overcomers need dimension to be overcomers!

And believe me it doesn't stop there, but to stick to the subject: The heart is the intersection of the soul and the spirit of man. Therefore, the Spirit of God, pours from within our heavenly connected spirit, where we receive Him, out through our heart, to the world around us. Hence, from our belly, flows rivers of living water, if....

Another word in scripture that is used for heart is 'eye'. "If the eye is single, the body will be full of light." Looking at this passage is yet another dimension still, but just think of a closed heart, preventing the light that is in our soul, from emanating out to illuminate our body. The heart can prevent this. I'll stop here. I hope this helps!

Let me back up. The Holy Spirit fills our spirit from head to toe, which is inside our soul - that is, who we are emotionally, and mentally, and all this is in our body, which is physical. *-) Like in the image of God, Father, Son, Holy Spirit = spirit, soul, body of man.

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As per usual, the Word of God has the answer, and It does not beat around the bush.

Mat 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Luk 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

The heart is the place of abundance. The question is, "Abundance of what?"

If the heart is filled with the abundance of evil, the mouth will speak evil.

If the heart is filled with godly abundance, the mouth will speak nothing but goodness -- that is, godly Knowledge.

In order to have godly Knowledge, one must fill himself with the Word of God.

Therefore, those who are truly born again are filled to abundance with the Goodness of the Word, and, so, God, represented by the vertical beam of the Cross, and Man, represented by the horizontal beam of the Cross, therefore, meet where the beams cross, at the heart. The Cross can be thought of as the Tree of Life.

However, it is not the physical heart were the Holy Spirit resides, rather the spiritual heart, the deepest part.

As the Word points out, we who are truly born again must be careful not to ask foolish questions -- that is, bring up issues that have nothing to do with the spiritual journey.

That means that where the Holy Spirit resides in the physical body is irrelevant. The Devil wants us to focus on the irrelevant, take us away, divert us from the Word of Life.

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Hi Eden

The best one was last month, during a prayer meeting, i stepped out to be prayed and i collapesed. That was when i felt the holy spirit.

Another time is during a Sunday night meeting at church, i was told some really exciting news and i felt his presence. And ive felt him at work a few times when i start talking to him.

I don't have time to say much but there is so much i want to say. May be its the power of God working in me.

I Write later

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Hi, Joy2Tworld. You said:

“We all have a spirit deep inside of us, you can't see it, but you can feel it. When you have an interaction with Jesus through prayer, and just talking to him like you would to a best friend. Everybody has a different way of feeling this, but when I feel it, I get a tingle go through my body, and goes all the way through my body, and I feel like I have been washed, that is the Holy Spirit you can feel. It is the best feeling in the world.”

Dear Joy2Tworld, how many times have you felt that "tingle go through my body, and goes all the way through my body, and I feel like I have been washed, that is the Holy Spirit you can feel"?

Thank you!
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Hi Eden, i hope that i can be of some help to you, i havnt yet read that bit in the bible but what i want to say is this:
We all have a spirit deep inside of us, you can't see it, but you can feel it. When you have an interation with Jesus through prayer, and just talking to him like you would to a best friend. Everybody has a different way of feeling this, but when i feel it, i get a tingle go through my body, and goes all the way through my body, and i feel like i have been washed, that is the Holy Spirit you can feel. It is the best feeling in the world.
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The Holy Spirit is a Spirit and is not located in any specific area of your body.

If you want to be silly and believe that the Holy Spirit lives in your belly then that is up to you.

This is not a salvation issue and is not worth wasting time on.

I have tried to help you understand by posting what I know and think about it. I have nothing else to say.

Maybe someone else will try and help you understand.

David [cool_shades]

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Hi, David. You said:

“I guess I can see how you may think that the living water is coming from you. But when you know the Bible and know it is all about Jesus and not us, then you will know that when you submit yourself to the Holy Spirit then, yes, He will use you to reach others but the living water that may come from you is He (the Holy Spirit) not you.”

Eden here:

Of course, I would hopefully never be so foolish to think that this living water was somehow produced by me the sinner. It is not. It is the Holy Spirit who quickens my spirit of man.

But David, then you added this:

“But it still does not mean that the Holy Spirit actually lives in your belly.”

Eden here:

By that statement, you mean that the Holy Spirit lives IN ME, but not necessarily IN MY BELLY area, right?

Ok, assuming for a moment that the Holy Spirit does NOT live in the belly area (alhtough Jesus said that from my belly region would flow rivers of living water), where then do YOU think the Holy Spirit is located in my body, if NOT in the belly region, David?

Thank you,
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>> Eden here:
>> I was under the impression that when I became bornagain, the Holy Spirit came to live in my spirit and now “rivers of living water are going to flow OUT OF MY belly”, according to Jesus. Can you please explain that to me?
I really don't know where you are getting, “rivers of living water are going to flow OUT OF MY belly”? Where does it say that in the bible?
Unless you think that is what John 7:37-38 is saying.

John 7:37-38 (KJV) In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

I have already explained this once above. But I will post it again.
New Commentary on the Whole Bible
If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly [innermost being] shall flow rivers of living water—This statement, as it reads in the KJV and several other translations, relates that the believer who drinks of Christ as the Rock will become one out from whom rivers of living water flow. Westcott said, “He who drinks of the Spiritual Rock becomes in turn himself a rock from within which the waters flow to slake the thirst of others.” However, other commentators and translators prefer a different form of punctuation: “If anyone is thirsty let him come to me; whoever believes in me, let him drink. As Scripture says, ‘Streams of living water shall flow out from within him’” (NEB). This rendering enables the interpreter to align the last statement with Jesus—not the believer—as being the source from which the living waters flow. This seems to be a more natural association, for Jesus is the smitten Rock from whom the living waters flow. The scripture the Lord referred to was not a particular OT verse, but the general tenor of Scripture that spoke of the living waters flowing forth (see Isa. 12:3; 44:3; 58:11; Ezek. 47:1-12; Joel 3:18).
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I guess I can see how you may think that the living water is coming from you. But when you know the bible and know it is all about Jesus and not us, then you will know that when you submit yourself to the Holy Spirit then, yes, He will use you to reach others but the living water that may come from you is He (the Holy Spirit) not you. But it still does not mean that the Holy Spirit actually lives in your belly.

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David said to Eden:

“To me you have really missed the point of this verse if you think it is trying to teach that the Holy Spirit lives in our belly.

“John 7:38 is referring to Jesus’s belly, not ours. It is Jesus, not he who believes in Him, who is the source of living water.

“We must remember as we study the word of God that it is ALL about Jesus and not about us.”

Eden here:

Now, David, doesn’t the Bible say that out of OUR belly shall flow rivers of living water?

John 7:38
He who believes on Me, as the scripture has said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

How can you say then what you said, David:

John 7:38 is referring to Jesus’s belly, not ours. It is Jesus, not he who believes in Him, who is the source of living water.

“We must remember as we study the word of God that it is ALL about Jesus and not about us.”

Eden here:

I was under the impression that when I became bornagain, the Holy Spirit came to live in my spirit and now “rivers of living water are going to flow OUT OF MY belly”, according to Jesus. Can you please explain that to me?

Thank you,
Eden

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The belly was written there for the heart, as it is frequently. It does not mean that the Holy Spirit actually lives in your belly. When you look at these verses in context with the rest of the bible you will find that the below is pretty much what it means.

Proverbs 20:27 is about the spirit of man (his conscience) This is the inner monitor that calls a man to do as he ought, and it is here named the light of God in human life.

To me you have really missed the point of this verse if you think it is trying to teach that the Holy Spirit lives in our belly.

John 7:38 is refering to Jesus belly not ours. It is Jesus, not he who believes in Him, who is the source of living water.

We must remember as we study the word of God that it is ALL about Jesus and not about us.

Below are some study notes that may help:

Wesley's Notes
20:27 The spirit - The reasonable soul. The candle - Is a clear and glorious light set up in man for his information and direction. Of the Lord - So called because it comes from God in a more immediate manner than the body, Eccles 12:7, and because it is in God's stead, to observe and judge all our actions. Searching - Discerning not only his outward actions, which are visible to others, but his most inward thoughts and affections. The belly is here put for the heart, as it is frequently.

MacArthur, J. J. (1997, c1997). The MacArthur Study Bible (electronic ed.) (Pr 20:27). Nashville: Word Pub.

20:27 the lamp of the Lord. The "spirit" represents the conscience of man which searches every secret place.

Word Study: CONSCIENCE
The term does not appear in the Old Testament but the concept does. David, for example, was smitten in his heart because of his lack of trust in the power of God (2 Sam. 24:10). But his guilt turned to joy when he sought the Lord's forgiveness (Psalm 32).

In the New Testament the term "conscience" is found most frequently in the writings of the apostle Paul. Some people argue erroneously that conscience takes the place of the external law in the Old Testament. However, the conscience is not the ultimate standard of moral goodness (1 Cor. 4:4). Under both the old covenant and the new covenant the conscience must be formed by the will of God. The law given to Israel was inscribed on the hearts of believers (Heb. 8:10; 10:16); so the sensitized conscience is able to discern God's judgment against sin (Rom. 2:14-15).

The conscience of the believer has been cleansed by the work of Jesus Christ; it no longer accuses and condemns (Heb. 9:14; 10:22). Believers are to work to maintain pure consciences. They also must be careful not to encourage others to act against their consciences. To act contrary to the urging of one's conscience is wrong, for actions that go against the conscience cannot arise out of faith (1 Cor. 8:7-13; 10:23-30).


New Commentary on the Whole Bible
27 the candle of the Lord—a reference to a man’s conscience. It is the Lord’s lamp (candle) which searches the dark rooms of the hearts of men (18:8, 17; 20:5; 1 Cor. 2:11; Rom. 2:14ff.).

Believer's Study Bible
This “lamp,” man’s moral measure, is a means of self-examination, given by YAHWEH Himself (cf. Ps 119:105; Matt 6:22, 23). The phrase “inner depths of his heart” is a reference to the depths of one’s soul—thoughts, attitudes, desires, affections, will.

Adam Clarke's Commentary - Proverbs 20:27
The spirit of man is the candle of the Lord—God has given to every man a mind, which he so enlightens by his own Spirit, that the man knows how to distinguish good from evil; and conscience, which springs from this, searches the inmost recesses of the soul.


Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary
VERSE 27
The rational soul and conscience are as a lamp within us, which should be used in examining our dispositions and motives with the revealed will of God.

The Bible Reader's Companion
(20:27). It is better to take the alternate reading in the NIV, “the spirit of man is the Lord’s lamp.” The rabbis understood this to mean that God’s image so shines in the human spirit that man is set apart from the animals. It’s this reflection of God which endows us with human abilities and witnesses to His existence through each of our unique capacities.

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John 7:38

New Commentary on the Whole Bible
If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly [innermost being] shall flow rivers of living water—This statement, as it reads in the KJV and several other translations, relates that the believer who drinks of Christ as the Rock will become one out from whom rivers of living water flow. Westcott said, “He who drinks of the Spiritual Rock becomes in turn himself a rock from within which the waters flow to slake the thirst of others.” However, other commentators and translators prefer a different form of punctuation: “If anyone is thirsty let him come to me; whoever believes in me, let him drink. As Scripture says, ‘Streams of living water shall flow out from within him’” (NEB). This rendering enables the interpreter to align the last statement with Jesus—not the believer—as being the source from which the living waters flow. This seems to be a more natural association, for Jesus is the smitten Rock from whom the living waters flow. The scripture the Lord referred to was not a particular OT verse, but the general tenor of Scripture that spoke of the living waters flowing forth (see Isa. 12:3; 44:3; 58:11; Ezek. 47:1-12; Joel 3:18).

Wiersbe's Expository Outlines on the New Testament
The seventh day of the feast was a great day of celebration. (The eighth day was one of “solemn assembly”—Lev. 23:36; see Num. 29:35). Each morning of the feast, at the time of the sacrifice, the priests would draw water in a golden vessel from the Pool of Siloam and carry it to the temple to be poured out. This commemorated the wonderful supply of water God gave the Jews in the wilderness. This seventh day was known as “The Great Hosannah” and climaxed the feast. It takes little imagination to grasp what must have happened when Jesus cried out, “If any man thirst, let him come unto Me and drink!” (v. 37) as the priests poured out the water. Christ was the Rock out of which the waters flowed (Ex. 17:1-7; 1 Cor. 10:4). He was smitten on the cross that the Spirit of life might be given to save and satisfy thirsty sinners. In the Bible, water for cleansing symbolizes the Word of God (John 13:1-17; 15:3); water for drinking represents the Spirit of God (John 7:37-38).

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There came a day when it seemed like the focus of my being was in my belly and my head had nothing to do with it at that moment.

It so happened that day that there was a computer-photo stall, where I recorded my condition of that day.

"treat my neighbor as I want others to treat me, that is fulfilling the law of God"

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Hi Eden,
Interesting question. I can only tell you by my experience with the Holy Spirit. I cannot speak for others. First I heard the wind (not outside of me), then the spirit(wind) seemed to fill my entire being and put me into this inexplainable sense of peace. I cannot say that I felt its presence in any one part of my body more than another, the only distinct part was the sound of a rushing wind that I could hear.
Eden, I tell you the truth , I do not lie, and presently I am waiting on the spirit to help me bring to completion a work that had begun several years ago....I believe God is about to answer the prayers of many and that by the strength of His Word we will see many come to repentance.

With love in Christ, Daniel

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In what part of my body is the Holy Spirit located in me? The Bible mentions that out of the belly shall come forth rivers of living water:

Proverbs 20:27
The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly.

John 7:38
He who believes on Me {Jesus}, as the scripture has said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

What is this belly? Does this belly refer to the human belly and where then is this belly?

Thank you,
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