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timspong
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IMO the modern church is turning back towards Gnosticism. Just look at what is happening with the New Age/Feel Good/Prosperity/Emerging/TBN Style Churches that have proliferated across the globe recently.

Gnosticism appeals to those who hunger for spirituality and are not prepared to study the bible for reproof and correction. i.e. they are turning towards our natural carnal paganistic roots and are using Jesus as a substitute baal.

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Good NewsforAll
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These scripts were supposedly lost. There is no such thing as lost books of the Bible. Once again I will refer you to another site.


"Question: What are the lost books of the Bible?
Answer: There are no “lost books” of the Bible or books that were taken out of the Bible. There are many legends and rumors of “lost” books, but there is no truth whatsoever to these stories. Every book that God intended and inspired to be in the Bible is in the Bible. There are literally hundreds of religious books that were written in the same time period as the books of the Bible. Some of these books contain true accounts of things that actually occurred (1 Maccabees for example). Some of them contain good spiritual teaching (the Wisdom of Solomon for example). However, these books are not inspired by God. If we read any of these books, the Apocrypha as an example, we have to treat them as fallible historical books, not as the inspired, inerrant Word of God (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

The gospel of Thomas, for example, was a forgery written in the 3rd or 4th century A.D., claiming to have been written by the Apostle Thomas. It was not written by Thomas. The early church fathers almost universally rejected the gospel of Thomas as being heretical. It contains many false and heretical things that Jesus supposedly said and did. None of it (or at best very little of it) is true. The Epistle of Barnabas was not written by the Biblical Barnabas, but by an imposter. The same can be said of the gospel of Philip, the apocalypse of Peter, the book of Enoch, etc"


http://www.gotquestions.org/lost-books-Bible.html

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MentorsRiddle
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I suppose the main part of Gnosis that interests me the most is the religious texts pertaining to the followers of Christ, and others.
Basically I want to know what your belief on the texts are?
The church banned them, and considered them fakes, yet they were written along the same time frame as other books of the New Testament.
How can they say certain ones are fake, and others are legitimate?
That mainly comes across as choosey to me, and seems like books were picked that supported their ideas.

Any Thoughts?

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Grace abounds upon me now,
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"Basic teachings and Beliefs: The Gnostic concept of salvation is entirely at odds with the accepted Christian doctrine. In Gnostic belief, one must seek reuinion with God, dissolution of the body, and a return to the state prior to the Fall- the first cause. This contradicts the developed Christian doctrine that the death of Christ was a sacrifice to atone for the sins of mankind, and that man achieves salvation simply be believing in this sacrifice. Gnostics, in their turn, believe that Christ was not truly human, but an Avatar or messenger who only had the appearance of humanity. (This doctrine is known as Docetism) Among these 'Avatars' is counted the serpent in the garden, a radical and dangerous (in the eyes of the Church) departure from 'accepted' doctrine. Also contrary to (non-gnostic) Christian doctrine is the central idea of gnosis, or the personal experience of the divine, for which there is no exact prescribed course of approach. "

http://altreligion.about.com/library/faqs/bl_gnosticism.htm

If you scroll down on the site you will see that they rely on religious symbols, which is getting into idolatry and mysticism.

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Romans 10:15 As it is written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!"


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Good Day,

It has been a long time since I have posted anything upon this message board, and I have felt the need to return. I have a question to pose to you all, and I would like honest comments (preferably backed up by facts) about the “gnostic” religion/psychology. The concept of gnosis interests me much, although I do not place much stock into it, and I wanted to know what others here thought about it.

So if anyone here has any interest to post here about it please enlighten me about it.
Again I have not read much on the topic, and again I DO NOT put stock into the idea. But I am just curious.

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With you I rise,
In you I sleep,
kneeling down I kiss your feet,
Grace abounds upon me now,
I once was lost
but now I'm found.
The gift of God dwells within,
To this love I now give in.

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