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helpforhomeschoolers
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I have to spend some time to look at all that you have here, but you confused me with this one:
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you have Him in the grave, so to speak, 4 days and 3 nights, when in reality, He rose on the 3rd day, a Sabbath;
whereas Wed, was a 'high sabbath', not the regular weekely sabbath, a friday 6pm, by gentile reckoning, same time and day = a sat by Hebrew reckoning.
wed afternoon to thur afternoon, one day
thur afternoon to fri afternoon, one day
fri afternoon to sat afternoon, one day
one and one and one is three.
I have him being laid in the tomb, at the close of Abib 14, and in the tomb, the evening and morning of Abib 15 = 1 day; the evening and morning of Abib 16 = 2 days; and the evening and the morning of Abib 17 - 3 days.. rising this third day before the evening of Abib 18 begins. This is consistent with the evening and the morning being the "first" day etc..
Can you explain to me that 6 days BEFORE passover which is always Abib 14, is Abib 9?
Abib 8 = 6 days from passover, abib 9 = 5 days before Passover, Abib 10 = 4 days BEFORE Passover; Abib 11 = 3 days BEFORE passover; Abib 12 = 2 Days BEFORE passover; Abib 13 = 1 day BEFORE Passover; Abib 14 = Passover. Contrast: After 2 days is Passover.
Abib 11...after (2) days - Abib 12= 1 day & Abib 13= 2 days, after these pass is Abib 14= passover.
It seems to me that those two phrases make it clear that Abib 8 and not Abib 9 is 6 days Before Passover.
Your thoughts ?? In the mean time I will try to get throught the rest and see if I have more questions but tomorrow I a have a long 14+ hour 700 mile day so it will be later... wed or so. So take your time getting to me on the above questions.
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you have Him in the grave, so to speak, 4 days and 3 nights, when in reality, He rose on the 3rd day, a Sabbath;
whereas Wed, was a 'high sabbath', not the regular weekely sabbath, a friday 6pm, by gentile reckoning, same time and day = a sat by Hebrew reckoning.
wed afternoon to thur afternoon, one day
thur afternoon to fri afternoon, one day
fri afternoon to sat afternoon, one day
one and one and one is three.
many people assume that all accounts are different views of the same one account, but this is not so, we have more than one account, leaving us with the Marys having travelled to the sepulcher more than once, remembering that the day does not begin until dusk, i.e., aprox 6 p.m.
THE TWO ENTRIES INTO JERUSALEM.
Most "Harmonies" assume that because each Gospel records an entry of the Lord into Jerusalem the four accounts must be identical because they are similar; and therefore conclude that because they differ in certain particulars there are "discrepancies".
Whereas, if we treat them in their chronological sequences, and have regard to the antecedent and consequent circumstances, the supposed discrepancies will disappear, and the similar, but diverse, expressions will be seen to be necessary to the different events.
In this present case, one entry (Matt. 21:1-9) takes place before the other, which is recorded in Mark 11:1-10, Luke 19:30-34, and John 12:12-15.
1. In Matthew the Lord had actually arrived at Bethphage. In Luke He "was come nigh" (engisen); in Mark "they were approaching" (engizousin).
2. In Matthew the village lay just off the road (apenanti); in Luke and Mark it was below them, and opposite (katenanti).
3. In the former, two animals were sent for and used; in the latter, only one.
4. In the former, the prophecy of Zech. 9:9, which required the two animals is said to have been fulfilled; in the latter, the prophecy was not said to be fulfilled, and only so much of it is quoted (John 12:15) as agrees with it.
5. The former seems to have been unexpected, for "all the city was moved, saying, 'Who is this?'" (Matt. 21:10, 11), while, if there was only one entry, the two accounts are inexplicable, seeing that the later and subsequent entry was prepared for : much people in the city "heard that He was coming", and "went forth to meet Him" (John 12:12, 13).
The latter therefore, was the great formal entry of the Lord, called "the Triumphal Entry", which took place on what is called "Palm Sunday".
The significance of the two animals, and the one, seems to be this:--
The first had special reference to the whole work of His mission. He came on the *** with its unbroken colt, the clothes being put some on one and some on the other, and the Lord sitting on "them" -- the clothes (not on both beasts). He came to cleanse the Temple, and make His final presentation of the King and the Kingdom.
But when He came on the one -- an *** 's colt -- it was in judgment, to pronounce the doom on the city; and on the nation.
When He appears again it will be to a nation which will then say (as the result of Zech. 12:10); "Blessed is He that cometh in the name of the Lord" (Matt. 23:39).
For the events of the "six days before Passover", see Ap. 156; and the notes on the various passages.
As shown above, the 14th of Nisan, which was the "Preparation Day", began at sunset on our Tuesday (Gentile reckoning). "The sixth hour" of John 19:14 is the sixth hour of the night, and therefore corresponds to midnight, at which, according to Gentile reckoning, Wednesday began.
The Roman numerals on the dial plate show the 24 hours of the complete Gentile day. And on either side of the dial are shown the Hebrew "hours" corresponding to the Gentile hours a.m. and p.m.
The twenty-four hours were divided into the twelve hours of the night (reckoned from sunset), and "twelve hours in the day" (reckoned from sunrise. See John 11:9). Hence "the sixth hour" of John 19:14 was our midnight; "the third hour" of Mark 15:25 was our 9 a.m.; "the sixth hour" of Matt. 27:45; Mark 15:33; Luke 23:44; was our noon and the "ninth hour" of Matt. 27:45,46; Mark 15:33.34; Luke 23:44; was our 3 p.m.
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You know, I was looking for this old thread the other day Ray! I couldnt find it to save my life. Will you look at my chart and tell me what you see that is wrong with it. I do not see how 6 days before Passover can be the 9th of Nisan. It has to be the 8th of Nisan as far as I can see, and have drawn out here in this diagram, but I can tell you this is hard for me to process. So I am open to criticism. Just keep it simple that I can follow you.
http://www.helpforhomeschoolers.com/WedAbib14.htm
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![[clap2]](graemlins/clap2.gif) Yes, this is wonderful thank you for sharing it is indeed worth the read. I discovered there were two Sabbaths that week while studying the feasts. It was very difficult for me to deal with the day beginning at evening thing. I actually had to draw myself a diagram labeling each day and numbering it Nissan 14, 13, etc..to see it. (I process things very visually). Oh, how wonderful it would have bee to have this article then!
Again, thanks for sharing this.
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We have just finished the Resurrection week and celebrated our Lord's death burial and resurrection. As most know there are some questions as to timing of the events leading up to and through the Resurrection. Here is a link to a paper done on this by a person who is a converted Jew. It is one of the best I have ever seen. The reason I have not posted it is its length. However if the time is taken to read it through I believe it will be a blessing, God bless
http://philologos.org/bpr/files/Misc_Studies/ms007.htm
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