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timspong
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Hey my first post.

In order to purify us, God must let us be burned a little by temptation. We have a great propensity to sin in our soul and by continual trials, God gradually burns this out of us.

Everyone is continually tempted, even Paul. After all Cannan was a battlefield, even though it was also the promised land.

If we stay focused on Jesus we will mature and eventually be able to withstand temptation. Those that fall regularly, still have some growing to do. However, the Lord is patient and will forgive each sin and maybe each time his children fail they will get a little stronger if they are focused on Him.

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Originally posted by J4Jesus:
man.


I'm seeing alot of people who are struggling with alot of habitual sins.

i've BEEN seeing that, but whatever.

the point is, it's happening. and it shouldn't be. Or should it?


why do alot of Christians pray only to fall into it again? is satan overpowering God? Is God waiting for a SPECIFIC TIME TO HEAL? And Why if that's the case? or is it just in us that the problem lies?


We have the right to get aggrivated with God if He doesn't show up and do His job correct?


Some of you people might say it's our Problem, but hold on now, sure God might Help us if we want it. But those people i'm talking about seem to want it to stop and yet they're still having problems.

The Desire has to come from God right? We're sinful, we can't do it on our own. And if He KNOWS we NEED IT, why in the world should we have to ask?

It's not God's fault that we choose to sin but it's not our fault that He doesn't make a Change in us.

The Bible teaches us that "Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world". God has given us the power to overcome the enemy. If we choose to sin then we have choosen not to appropriate the Power God has given us and it is neither God's fault nor do we have the right to get aggrivated with God.

We are in a real spiritual battle in this life and God is not going to fight it FOR us but He will fight it WITH us.

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Interestingly, the apostle says in 2Co 13:5 how we would not know that Jesus Christ is in us, except for the fact we are reprobates. He puts it as a question for thought.

That is to say, once Christ begins a work within a person, putting on the new man, which is renewed day by day, we really become aware of our shortcomings, which is what sin means, to fall short/miss the moral mark.

But take ol Essau, Jacob wasn't exactly fair, honest , or moral was he? But God loved Jacob and hated Essau. God is the heart knower, God knows how badly Jacob wanted to be near to God and God overlooked Jacob's doings and searched out his heart and acknowledged that Jacob had the right desire, that is, the desire to know the truth, to know God. Many of the OT charactors have similar experiences for our learning.

"we know not what we should pray for as we ought." But "the Spirit Himself helpeth our infirmities" (Rom. 8:26). He knoweth what we should pray for. He knoweth what we need. He maketh intercession for us. He teacheth us how to pray, & in Eph. 1:17, His prayer is set forth:

"that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in
THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM."

If the HS sets this prayer thru the vessel Paul thus, then surely this must be our greatest need, THE KNOWLEDGE OF HIM.

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What about our Consciences??


Can God heal those 100 percent? Well i guess He can, IF He wants to. Why shouldn't we be ill when God is the one judging us and He's also the one that provides us Growth, YET, it's not happening?

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I believe satan is working over time on Christians, because he knows his days are short. Once the rapture takes place we will be safe from his grasp.
The answer is to draw as close to Jesus as we can.
I hope you are doing great. God bless you, sweetie.
betty

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man.


I'm seeing alot of people who are struggling with alot of habitual sins.

i've BEEN seeing that, but whatever.

the point is, it's happening. and it shouldn't be. Or should it?


why do alot of Christians pray only to fall into it again? is satan overpowering God? Is God waiting for a SPECIFIC TIME TO HEAL? And Why if that's the case? or is it just in us that the problem lies?


We have the right to get aggrivated with God if He doesn't show up and do His job correct?


Some of you people might say it's our Problem, but hold on now, sure God might Help us if we want it. But those people i'm talking about seem to want it to stop and yet they're still having problems.

The Desire has to come from God right? We're sinful, we can't do it on our own. And if He KNOWS we NEED IT, why in the world should we have to ask?

It's not God's fault that we choose to sin but it's not our fault that He doesn't make a Change in us.

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