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arikel88
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We start The first part of it we begin with everything since Genesis to the law deuternomy, the first part consist of the high status women have " Before the law of the ten commandments " is what we call part 1. In part 1 will their be high status, equal status and low status in this we explain the events where women had God's favor over men and did the will of God and his plan.

The powers women have God gave them and explain them in turn of events how they use them in the time before the law of moses. We start with the beggining God created men and women the first laws.


Genesis 1:26-28 God made men and women like his image.


Genesis 2:18-24 it is not Good for man to be alone and made women for him. And made women from the rib of men.


God told men in this verses that both govern together the earth.

When we recieve commands from the lord when he created men and women. God wanted women to use thier powers to rule over the earth those powers were love and hope but when man sinned and went to live in the wilderness what were more powers of God that gave women to survive there what were the moments when women defends itself in A world where the law of " An eye for an eye", from the law of " the point of the sword " you get what you want ?, and " The law of the strongest ruled " like the Babylonian made and Assyrians made in those times. What did women do to follow the plan of God and do his will ? And what was thier story.

Their was women in those times that did do the will of God and completed the law. Who were faithul to the lord there was Sarah, Hagar, and Rebekah.


Like Hagar who was mother of the arab nations , God bless her and protected her.

The first verses of high status of first part.

Gen 17:7-14 and 16:10 God send abgels to save Hagar and her son. She was awarded to have A nation like Abraham but she had no husband she recieve more than A man in those times.

Even in those times made men and women equal in those times this an equal status.


Like Abraham and Sarah who were part of the marriage both share the descendacy.

Genesis 26:4 I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky, and I will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations of the earth will be blessed,


Both are equal for both to talk to God.

Gensis 18:10 Both of them share the privilage of talking to God.


God talk to Abraham and told she was going to be pregnant. Sarah was treated equal by other men in those times even though Sarah did not want to and Abraham lied to save his life


Abimelech put laws in those times and Sarah benn A woman of God got treated in equal status in those times by law.

Genesis 20:14 she given something equal things for the transgression and got vindicated.


We see in those times Sarah had recieve more and was equal to Abraham but also than Sarah A woman had higher status and that was Rebekah was given A choice

Genesis 24:57 The lord commands Abraham to have girl for his son and if the girl does not want to go and dissolve the promise God let the girl decide and she was asked.

God gave something to women that A man didn't and women did and that was choice in that instance men are always drones that obey God in the old testament but A women was given A choice and God told Abraham of what was going to happen and the father of Rebekah asked her if she wants to go or not ? God let the young lady to decide the future of Israel.


This show women were powerful and had choice to decide.


women can also decide the name of child without the husband and here are the verses. In those times women can decide without men what the name will be.

A high status position

Eve named Seth Gen 4:25

Leah and Rachel named thier children chapters 29 and 30 chapters of Genesis see the whole story.

Rachel named Genesis 39:19

Hannah named Samuel 1 samuel chapter one


This show that in those times only women named thier children and didn't need the approval of men.

As the story continues we see women ahd the approval of God and had higher status and equal status in those times.

We see Isaac prayed so Rebbeca could have A child Genesis 25:21-34

www.bible.com/bible/406/GEN.25.21-34.ERV

Here women had higher status becuase man did the work for her and prayed on her behalf to obtain here promise from the lord.


Here in this vers higher status for women here Rebekah does the historic thing of inquiring the lord

Genesis 25:21-23 Here she talks to God few have done so.


When Leah was goona have kids and jacob loved her less than Rachel. She prayed for the lord for children and gave 4 and God gave her special place in Jacob for her children and she thank God for it and named judah in honor of God gave Leah.

Genesis 29:31


The lord also listen to Leah and A women who was special was heard by Leah

Genesis 30:17


Also women in those time gave names to children also participated in Genealogies in sense to thier families.

an equal status position

Genesis 5 the whole chapter gives genealogies

Genesis 46:5 another genealogy with men and women named as equals showing they were important too.

Genesis 46:15 there were sons of Leah

Gensis 46:17 Another Genealogy

Numbers 26:33 Another Genealogy

Numbers 26:46 Another Genealogy


As we see in those times their was higher status and equal status women were given and did the plan of God and his will.

Women did do good in the eyes of the lord. Did women have lower status yes in this time A women could not be queen, could not be judge in court, could not go to war as A soldier only men fought some women in other culture fought but women from Abraham's lot and Isaac and Jacob did the fighting with men. Women cannot participiate becuase of so much violence in those days and were more fragile and if women get captured were ransomed by enemy tribes.

But still despite many thing that stopped them they did the will of God and with faith and love did his will.


Their were women sage in those times and women could be leaders in tribes like Deborah who was prophet but won't talk about her yet some towns had women as old ladies to gudie them in town councils so women did leader in towns and cities in those times.

We have talked about " Before era of the law of moses " The first part now we would continue the next post in the time of moses, what are the highg status, equal status, and low status of the law and it is big but had 6 months studying so know the answers.

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were talking to another member in another fourm he tells women and men cannot change and stuck because women and men are still inside animals of themselves cannot change in this digital and quantum world. Tribal and i talk to him something important to explain.


Truth be told RJm that men and women still are tribal and do primitve things for all them are animals. Bible says king solomon explains it all by saying men are animals including women, not because of hair or rage or primitve skills because bible classify it one way men and women are borned and says solomon everything else is vanity, if an animal was touch by God he decided togive inteligence and give the same as man and makes civilization and all of it. Yeah he can do that to any animal like us and that animal be kind and good and do good things like humans do when animals die or are in need of saving life ?

Yes, few animals do the bats if A bat finds one dyiing because it did not fed he would give it some of it's blood so to survive we know darwinisim says the strong survive and fit evovle. But that compassion animals have is becuase God gave it to them and also dolphins, chimpanzee's and whale go save another and willing to sacrfice thier life in order to save it.

You find that power in verse 15 of john where Jesus no greater love is that than a friend who will give his life for another stranger. Jesus is that stranger and went to be the one who gave his life. A mother will give her life her child A father too, but Jesus gave it to strangers and nobodies like us so we live and have life.

No, humans are animals that kill and destroy and forget it and don''t be humble and when that happens they forget what good God gave them they want to achieve things in thier own efforts they become like the babylons, greeks, romans, and nazi's.

Of course not men and women cannot adapt to the quantum world were entering it and were getting all killed. More violence 2 people in the streets got guns and whacked one guys wife for sleeping with someone else. No you all know that is how the world is but still women her part I have not talk of the rest of the things know the cartoon has 4/5 i'm just writting 1/5 know that I worked for 4 -5 months know thier something important in my cartoon. Truly women ahvean important role andhave been shuned in ancient times because of the violence but know my cartoons does not make them look bad or wrong but give them the pointers and realize God gave them laws, women prophets, women queens, and more things.


Their is such thing that women are oppressed but not about men only that they do not know their own stuff, women do not know God powerful things and you will see what it is. It is about women finding the realtion God wants them tohave and wants them to love. It is hard to explain it but still it is what King solomon says in proverbs 31 verse 11 to the end of the chapter . God tells women to be the women who are not animals or women but women of God. You see fathers, priest and rabbia's they are men of God but still women are pulled from that and go to hiding and find comfort in new age, wicca, and the other things rishi and such things. Thinking they will find God and thier stuff in life.

But God gives it, you know RJm chinese explain in chinese medicine about chi and such things and they see things in pagan ways btu understable Man is not man and the person he knows himself it's not him that every man and women have an animal inside thier true self, we know men and women are dresses and kept from finding themselves and get lost we all know. To find one's selve must find the center of who he is even though it's good or bad, yin and yang different poles like you say. But not neccesarily evil but negative and positive, still the animal inside us refuses to learn and becomes all of us in beggining undecisive,unrational, and primitve.

But unless life action happen that person never changes and gets stuck and goes to pagan things like new age and wicca. Statistics show in television 70% in Russia go to witchcraft, majority of which women. Africa countries get millions of them practicing witchcraft A sermon from A pastor in baptist church repeating how plagued africa countries practice witchcraft and all the people come to him changing thier lfie. And more countries he visits finds families doing witchcraft. No, RJM their is growing increase in USA

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...in-2021-celebration-wicca-witches/6182226001/
https://www.newsweek.com/witchcraft...y-witches-millennials-pagans-religion-1221019

More women go to witchcraft and lose thier life in it, i'm sure you know many women going witches, they go because they don't know what is thier stuff in the bible and if they did they would look in that direction. Find that God wanted all fo them in heaven, Jesus died for them all. Your not seeing the bigger picture is thier A way for women to find thier sutff in God and find what lady wisdom and give that to women ?

God gave Solomon that high I.Q. to discern that and write it so women are part of it. Clearly their is more Solomon knew Women can find that and know love is that way to find thier stuff. God gave women pains of birth and wroted in the bible that he is like A women that gives birth.

Deuteronomy 32:18 God who gives birth

“You were unmindful of the Rock that bore you; you forgot the God who gave you birth.”

Isaiah 42:14 God as a woman in labor

God: “For a long time I have held my peace, I have kept myself still and restrained myself; now I will cry out like a woman in labor, I will gasp and pant.”

Here is where I get it.

https://www.womensordination.org/res...-in-the-bible/

https://www.christianthinktank.com/femalex.html

See God said it he is A women in child birth giving birth ? Really amazing no people thier is much more he is A bear mother, an eagle mother, and A women looking for A coin.

Never saw that before but realize huge thing, that's what's up I grew up seen God is A man he is no man niether women but consuming fire. But he has A powrful women side and women don't even know that does God give us that. He gives the bear, eagle and hen says he protects israle like A women does it's cubs, eggs, and children. Yeah God does have female side and belongs to him gives it to women in form of A bear, an eagle, and women and says he feels the pains and also gives pains by giving birth spiritually.

Something complex and strange for any one but still something he tells and said to Isaiah and Solomon to tell his people about his character and his ways.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8P-x34iYRE proverbs 8
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Some are the same like singing and love but birth and hair and one other that is only women's is what God gave them remember in the bible God uses images like arrows, hammers, swords masculie things God gave men and says are aprt of his character and doing. The lord says he is a mighty host of armies. He uses men as a symbol of himself and part of his character. Do we men have gifts yes but do women have gifts yes more than 4 or 5 times in the bible says he is A woman, he uses woman as representation of his character and secret ways he is so also he uses the chicken tells Israel how he wanted them under his wings, the bible says God is bear mother who takes care of his childs, A mother eagle in psalms watchign over her nest, and chicken which cover her hatchlingd God uses feminine side to represent him and reveal his character. Is women part of God has God in the bible shown he is A women ? yes in proverbs 8 thru 9 chapter Solomon writes on how God shows her wisdom as A woman and shows, he is A women who scream when giving birth, A women who worries for his children, A women who found A coin in the new testament as a Parable Solomon understood this way of God.


For remember God is niether man or female he is above all this he just gives us A small part of him the most ancient way God says he is and represents him is that he is not human or man or women but consuming Fire !!! Deuteronomy 4:24 that is what he says in the beggining God gave Adam A part of him and gave Women A part of him aswell. He loves so much women that God gave them reasoning and man aswell to know he is thier creator but know that besides man havings swords, hamemrs, and tools men use. Women have singing, birth, and love unique to them that man do not have. Their is A reason for why God gave women hair, and gave them the ability only God can do that is gave life !!! like he does when women give birth. Even though unspoken about how God gives birth and demostrate part of him in women. Know those are the things God gave women and belongs to them.

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Know that their is more information and property A women can have it their is a law that if a man dies and brother does not want to marry. The wife goes to council they remove his sandal and the women slaps that brother and she keeps the property. Know A women can have property and keep it. Many things the bible has influence the english in the magna carta and other things in laws in western culture.

And also God originally is not man or women he says he is consuming fire originally when created the universe but bear, hammer, arrows, thunder as his voice, coming as Jesus as A man, being A women who gave birth, and mother hen are things that represent him and his character for he is a mysterious God. And he only lets us know few things about all of him because he is powerful and his ways are mysterious.

Their many more things like the hardships women face in the bible and thanks to their wise decisions like rebekah treachery and things they help men to complete the law and the heart things throughout history. Women have sacrificied everything if it weren’t for women like Esther to save her people, women like Deoborah even though she killed, and women like thedaughter in law of Judah who lost his sons but her daughter in law trick her to sleep with him. And save the bloodline of Judah for he was old. The kingdoms of Isreal would of not existed and the state of Israel would of not of existed. Thanks to those brave women even though it brings debate and contradiction of thier actions remember Abraham lied, Jacob lied and tricked Laban and other prophets did the same in order to accomplish the will of God.

We are no one to judge he will judge it all but everything in life wether bad or good will work in the end to make great things like Israel and the path for Israel to teach and give the word of God to all. Women have important part in the will of God and his plan. Read about the plan of God that the will is to make his plan A reality.

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Why they have hair, gift of birth, gift of singing, and the law. Know that God gave laws to protect women and made A huge research about it took me 4 months of research. Know that very serious about it. And why women in proverbs 8-9 chapters women represent wisdom and are part of God characters. God says he is A woman, Hen mother covering his chicklings which is Israel, A mother Bear, and A mother eagle. God uses hammers, arrows, lightning, and consuming to represent himself in the bible. The high points in the law, the equal points in the law like selling property is the one thing that makes men and women equal.

Women and men can own slaves well those are equal parts of the law of moses. And the low status parts in the law like only men can file for divorce, men can go to war women can’t, women can’t be priestess, women can’t be judges in court systems , and women can’t be queens but their have been one exception of one women been queen in Israel history in 2 kings book. Also it explains the heart why the heart to have the heart God wants for it we must have 6 things.

The laws of genesis 1:26-28 and another one in genesis which are his commandments, the other is the law of moses written your heart, later how love is fulfillment of the law jesus says. The section will reveal what is the will of the lord and it is his commandments psalm 40:8 his laws are in your heart and so his will is his commandments and all of it the laws, prophecies, and what is his word is his commandments. So what else does he says are his commandments in order to complete the law he gave in genesis and the mosaic law ? He said fulfill them you love god and your neighbor and you will fulfill the law. Simple as that to have the heart of A child matthew 18:2-4 youw ant to enter heaven you must be like A child. What is the will 1 Thessalonians 5:18 to give thanks, tohave A heart of A child, A heart of thanks, to have the laws of genesis, and the law of moses and another 2 things more.

And fulfill them with love and love thy father and neighbors you completed the law it is very complete what is in the episode it hase more stuff like the hard things women do to fullfil the law, the singing and praising, and more.

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What are gifts G-d gave to the women.

1. Gift the one of birth, the power of creation man does not have it only women have it. A gift only women have and authority it is never meant to have pains and suffer to give birth. But original before the devil interfered we were never meant to suffer.

2. G-d said he will give powers of visions and dreams. There women prophets like deborah and Huldah.

this is just A start so tell me what gifts or powers G-d gives woman ;D.

I was reading this from somewhere else tell what you think ?

1. Prominence of Women:

Under the Hebrew system the position of woman was in marked contrast with her status in surrounding heathen nations. Her liberties were greater, her employments more varied and important, her social standing more respectful and commanding. The divine law given on Sinai (Exodus 20:12) required children to honor the mother equally with the father. A similar esteem was accorded her in patriarchal times.

Sarah held a position of favor and authority in Abraham's household. Rebekah was not less influential than Isaac, and was evidently the stronger personality. The "beautiful" Rachel (Genesis 29:17) won from Jacob a love that accepted her as an equal in the companionship and counsels of family life. Many Hebrew women rose to eminence and national leadership. Miriam and Deborah were each a prophetess and a poetess. The former led bands of women in triumphant song and procession, celebrating the overthrow of enemies (Exodus 15:20); the latter, through her dominating personality and prophetic power, became the virtual judge of the nation and led armies to victory.

Her military general, Barak, refused to advance against Sisera without her presence and commanding influence (Judges 4:8). Her ode of victory indicates the intellectual endowment and culture of her gender in that unsettled and formative era (Judges 5). No person in Israel surpassed Hannah, the mother of Samuel, in intelligence, beauty and fervor of religious devotion. Her spiritual exaltation and poetic gift found expression in one of the choicest specimens of early Hebrew lyric poetry (1 Samuel 2:1-10). Other women eminent as prophetesses were: Huldah, whose counsel was sought by high priest and king (2 Chronicles 34:22; compare 2 Kings 22:14); Noadiah (Nehemiah 6:14); Anna (Luke 2:36).

The power to which woman could attain in Israel is illustrated in the career of the wicked, merciless, murderous, idolatrous Jezebel, self-styled prophetess (Revelation 2:20). Evidence of woman's eminence in the kingdoms of Judah and Israel is seen in the influence she exercised as queen mother (1 Kings 15:13) and queen (2 Kings 8:18); in the beautiful honor shown by King Solomon to his mother, Bath-sheba (1 Kings 2:19); in the filial devotion of the prophet Elisha (1 Kings 19:20); in the constant mention of the mother's name in the biographies of successive kings, making it evident that she was considered the important and determining factor in the life of her royal sons.

Her teaching and authority were sufficiently eminent to find recognition in the proverbs of the nation: "the law of thy mother" (Proverbs 1:8; Proverbs 6:20) was not to be forsaken, while contempt for the same merited the curse of God (Proverbs 19:26; Proverbs 20:20; Proverbs 30:11, 17).

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