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WildB
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quote:
Originally posted by Gadgetere:
[QUOTE]"the righteous are to live BY faith."

Not Biblical.

Galatians 3:11 The just shall live by faith.

ALSO~ Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Please stop sowing your weed seed.


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quote:
Originally posted by Gadgetere:
[QUOTE]

Is there anyone reading this who still holds to one of the "OSAS" views?

Please stop your silliness.

OSAS = Once Sealed ALWAYS SEALED.

2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed UNTO THE DAY OF REDEMPTION.



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Careful of the sin of Gehazi. Will you sell Gods word?

1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Now it's time to talk about 1 Corinthians 5:5 which says, "To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus." That is, when the person is isolated, they like leprosy patients are to be isolated.

They must face the consequences of their sin and face the chastising of God while leaving the other believers safe from that toxic influence in the (Body of Christ). However, if the person really happens to be a true believer, not just a professing one, that person cannot (profit from) his/her salvation otherwise it would be works salvation.

Galatians 5:4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

As said, some believers can be in such a state that they need to be isolated otherwise they contaminate the other believers like a leper. However, it's most likely that they will come back to their senses but the consequence that could lead to death will still be there.

Some could be like Ananias and Sapphira also but they still remain saved. However the judgment of the flesh still proves that eternal security is NO license to sin.

https://fundamentalbaptistchristian.blogspot.com/2011/05/commentary-on-1-corinthians-5.html

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quote:
Originally posted by Gadgetere:
2Tim1:12-13,
...Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.

Anyone care to connect this passage, with 1Tim4:16?
quote:
1Tim4:16
"Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine (didaskalia teaching); continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee."

Abide in these things, as you do you will save yourself.

quote:
2Jn1:7-9:
(7) For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
(8) Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
(9)Whosoever transgresseth (parabaino departs, leaves!), and abideth not in the doctrine (didachē teaching!) of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

Watch ourselves against deceivers? What are deceivers trying to do? See 1Jn2:26-28, deceivers can cause us to "shrink-in-shame" at Jesus' return! In 1Tim4:1 they can cause people to fall away from the faith! Deceivers are not trying to steal "shiny-crowns/rewards", they are trying to steal our CROWN OF LIFE itself! (Rev3:11!)

Hold fast the sound words; abide in the teaching; abide in JESUS. Keep yourselves in His love!

Is there anyone reading this who still holds to one of the "OSAS" views? If so, then let's discuss more verses; there are so many more just like these...

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quote:
Originally posted by Gadgetere:
...it is unto, a promise; but that seal is affixed to our faith, and if we are faithless and perish, yet He remains faithful (2Tim2:9-11).

The Greek in Rom1:17, per sources like A.T.Robertson, "the righteousness of God is revealed from faith the start to faith the goal (from beginning faith, to ending faith); the righteous are to live BY faith."

This seriously suggests Galatians, just discussed; one "begun in the Spirit" can end in the flesh (3:3). It suggests Jude20-21,"building YOURSELVES in holy faith, KEEP YOURSELVES in the love of God looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.

It suggests 1Pet1:

(4) To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
(5) Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
(9) Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.

The INHERITANCE is imperishable and will not fade away, but our possession OF it is by God's power through our faith; the outcome of our faith in verse 9.

It suggests 2Tim1:12-13,
"I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.
Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
That good thing (kalos treasure) which was committed unto thee keep (phylasso guard!) by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us."

He is able to keep what I commit to Him, and I am to GUARD by the Spirit's power, the precious-thing (treasure!) that was entrusted to me, eternal life.

Is any part of this unclear to anyone?

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quote:
Originally posted by WildB:
(Inverted Logic = fuzzy Logic)

Logic has nothing to do with what the Apostles wrote. In 2Cor11:3 we are at the SAME risk of deception-away-from-Jesus, as Eve experienced.

The entire letter of James warns against "falling-from-salvation" -- ch1 God tempts no one, each is tempted when enticed and carried away by his own lust. Lust conceived births sin, and sin brings death -- do not be deceived beloved brethren. (That's not written to UNSAVED "beloved brethren"!) The last two verses, "Brethren, if any among you wanders away from the faith, and (if) another leads him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way has saved a soul from death and covered many sins".

The entire letter of 2Pet -- in ch1 those "of the same faith as ours", who were escaped corruptions by the epignosis-true-saved-knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus. Ch2 uses the exact same words -- if those who have escaped defilements through the epignosis-true-saved-knowledge of Jesus are again entangled in them and overcome, it is worse than before; better to have never KNOWN (epiginosko, real knowledge) the way of righteousness, than HAVING KNOWN it to have TURNED AWAY FROM it (epistrepho, true spiritual turning). Then chapter 3 "Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness." Let's see anyone make that "we-can't-really-fall", or "oh-we-can-still-be-unsteadfastly-saved".

The entire letter of Galatians -- 3:3 "begun in the Spirit", 4:9 "known by God", 5:7 "running well and obeying the truth" --- could that describe anyone who was NOT saved? No. But one "begun in the Spirit" can end in the flesh (3:3), who was known BY God can turn back to weak worthless things to become enslaved all over again (4:9), who was running well can be hindered from obeying the truth (5:7), one who turns back to "law" can become apo-katargeo-severed from Christ and ekpipto-charis-fallen-from-grace (5:4)!

If there is any way to make such a person "never-was-truly-saved", or "didn't-really-fall", or "oh this is hyperbole effective means but can't really happen", let's hear it.

The worst is Hebrews.
2:1-3 we must take care of what we have heard lest we drift away from it; how shall we escape if we forsake so great a salvation.

3:1 metochos-partakers/PARTNERS in a heavenly calling
3.8 do not harden your hearts

3:12-13 take care BRETHREN, lest there be in any of you an evil unbelieving heart that FALLS AWAY FROM GOD; but encourage each other ...lest anyone be hardened by deceitful sin.

3:14 We are PARTNERS (metochos!) in Christ IF we hold fast the beginning of our assurance firm until the end.

3:18-19 Israel failed to enter their rest because of unbelief and disobedience.

4:1 Therefore let us fear lest any of us ...fall short of entering His rest

4:11 "Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief." (don't follow Israel's example from 3:18-19)

5:11-14 you should be mature, but you're not.
6:1-3 Let's focus on maturity not preaching repentance to those who don't want to

6:4-6 in the case of those who WERE ENLIGHTENED, tasted the heavenly gift (same "geuomai taste" as 2:9 Jesus tasted death), partners (metochos!) of the Holy Spirit, and FALLING AWAY (parapiptos is aorist active participle, it really is happening) --- it is adunatos impossible/powerless/impotent to restore them to repentance...

KJV "SEEING AS"
NIV "BECAUSE
NASB "SINCE" (footnote "WHILE!")

they are falling away and by willful unrepentance contempt His gracious gift!

6:7-9 tilled ground can yield EITHER thorns and be cursed and burned, OR fruit and be blessed.

6:11-12 we need endurance to the (to realize the) full assurance of hope unto the end, that we not be slothful but followers of THOSE WHO by faith and patience inherit the promises (make a choice to pursue faithfulness and not be falling-away!)

10:26-28 For if we sin wilfully (present active participle, if we KEEP ON sinning!) after that we have received the knowledge (epignosis real knowledge!) of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Any way to change that into "oh it's not WE SAVED who had received true knowledge of the truth" (not credible), or "His sacrifice still covers us this is HYPOTHETICAL BUT CAN'T HAPPEN" (still not credible!)? Any way to make this not say what it says?

Heb10:35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
JESUS is our confidence (1Tim1:1), don't throw away JESUS!

Heb10:36 we need patience (hypomone perseverance!) that after we have done His will we might receive the promise

Heb12:1-2 Let us lay aside the sin which so easily besets (entangles) us

Heb12:7-9
If ye endure chastening (righteous training!), God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
(8)But if ye be without chastisement (present tense!), whereof all are partakers (past tense), then are ye bastards, and not sons (present!).

You WERE submitted to Him (and He regards you as sons); but if you are NOW WITHOUT His chastening, then you are NOW NOT SONS (even though you were!)

Heb 12:9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

Make a choice, continue as adopted sons, or reject Him and become illegitimate-no-longer-sons!

Please don't just dismiss this as "this is just your wrong theory", tell us how these verses do NOT say what they say?

Heb12:15 Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God;

Heb12:25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

Go ahead, explain how this is NOT warning "we will not escape if we turn away from God"?

Heb13:9 Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines.


Okay, there is Hebrews -- verse by verse and chapter by chapter warning "don't-fall-from-salvation".

quote:
OSAS = Once Sealed ALWAYS SEALED.

2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

Seals were made to be broken; that was their whole purpose. They are not broken from God's side (Heb13:5), but faith to us is a daily choice. Notice in Eph1:13 the seal conditions on our belief. If we are deceived away to unbelief, does the seal remain? No.

We are admonished to walk in Christ, be rooted and built up in Him and established in faith, beware lest wordly men deceive us away from Jesus. Col2:6-8.

quote:
Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Very good --- some misquote this as "sealed UNTIL" -- no it is unto, a promise; but that seal is affixed to our faith, and if we are faithless and perish, yet He remains faithful (2Tim2:9-11).

No one of OSAS bent will be able to respond to the verses cited in this post; they either have to dismiss them, or try to interact with them and explain how they do not say what they say. Dismissing is not credible, and interacting must validly show how they fit OSAS.

And there are so many more verses; see Rom14:15 and 1Cor8:11, we are not to DESTROY our brother for whom Christ died. OSAS? Absolutely not. See Matt23, woe to you who shut up the kingdom of Heaven against those who ARE ENTERING!

We see that the only way to continue in any OSAS view, is to have a large ink pad and a NOT-REALLY stamp --- reading Scriptures like these and stamping NOT-REALLY NOT-REALLY NOT-REALLY.

Anyone who disagrees, please engage these cited verses and explain what they really say? It's easy to say "You're wrong" --- but what is the substance of that wrong understanding?

What's the right understanding?

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quote:
Originally posted by Gadgetere:


"And there still remains the discussion of why the dual doctrines of "Pre-Trib-Rapture" and "OSAS' present the greatest danger we Christians can face. "

[Eek!]

(Inverted Logic = fuzzy Logic)

OSAS = Once Sealed ALWAYS SEALED.

2 Corinthians 1:22 Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.



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What is Boolean Logic?

Boolean Logic is a form of algebra which is centered around three simple words known as Boolean Operators: “Or,” “And,” and “Not”. At the heart of Boolean Logic is the idea that all values are either true or false.

https://www.lotame.com/what-is-boolean-logic/#or

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quote:
Originally posted by WildB:
Study "Harpazo" and see if your theory fits.

"Harpazo" appears in Jn10:26 & 28; it means "seize or remove forcibly". No ONE can FORCE us from Jesus' hand.

In 1Thess4, we are "caught-up" (removed forcibly) to meet Jesus -- when? The living shall not precede the dead. FIRST, the wicked are TAKEN and destroyed when Jesus returns, THEN the dead are resurrected, and FINALLY THEN the living are "harpazo-caught-up" to meet with Jesus.

How can we make Matt13 fit a Pre-Trib-Rapture view?

Where have I posted "theory", and not Scriptural dictate? Which verses do you think I have wrong, and what should they say (or how do they connect)?

I look forward to your thoughts. And thank you EXTREMELY for causing me to include Matt13 in my book--I know it has to be published, but goodness, things I keep adding to it come with the thought, "How could it be published without this"?

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quote:
Originally posted by WildB:
Yikes! Your theory is False.

This is no one’s theory, WildB – not Gadget’s, not WildB’s, not Mary’s or Joe’s or Mortimer Snerd’s. We are discussing what Scripture says.

In the SAME WAY that the flood TOOK and DESTROYED the wicked in Noah’s time, in the same way Lot’s fire DESTROYED the wicked, so too will it be at the coming of the Son of man. Two men in the field, one TAKEN…

quote:
You need to stop reading other peoples dispensational mail and force feeding it into the Dispensation of Grace.
Let’s interact with Scripture – may we? I am seriously grateful to you—I realized that Matt13 was not in my text! Let’s look at the chapter (in King James):

quote:
Matt13:40-43
As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
(41) The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
(42) And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
(43) Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Now look back at Matt24:29-31:
quote:
(29) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
(30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man COMING in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
(31) And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Let’s try to make this fit “Pre-Trib”. 1Thess4:15 says “we which are alive and remain unto THE COMING of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.” How many “comings” does Jesus have? Blatant, He has THREE, if Pre-Trib is true; this “Pre-Trib-Rapture” is conspicuously called “THE COMING”. That would make Matt24:30 a THIRD COMING. But how does that work? Matt13 says “He sends the angels to remove the wicked, leaving the righteous shining like the sun”—why aren’t the righteous already gone? How do we make this all work under “Pre-Trib”? When Jesus ascends after His resurrection (Acts1:11) the angels say Jesus will COME (return) in the same way as you just saw Him leave—that’s visible, not covert. How does this fit “Pre-Trib”?

(Matt24:27 says His COMING will be like lightning that flashes all the way from East to West--in no way can that be "secret/covert/unnoticed"!)

Matt13 continues the parallel to Luke17:37:
quote:
Matt13:49-50
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just,
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Where is the Scriptural support that Jesus’ coming, and the Day of the Lord, and the End of the World, are not all talking about Jesus’ single return?

And we’ve discussed 2Thess2:1-3—Jesus coming-AND-OUR-GATHERING (simple conjunction “kai-and”), is one event, and we are not gathered before the lawless one sits in the temple and says he’s “God”. That’s during the Tribulation. Can we make this work if we are gathered before the Tribulation, before the antichrist sits in the temple? How?

Now, if there is NOT a “Pre-Trib-Rapture”, if Jesus only comes back ONCE, then it all fits, doesn’t it? Jesus returns, He sends His angels to TAKE the wicked and throw them to vultures (that’s the same as “throwing tares onto the fire”, their souls will be cast into the fire!)—and THEN deceased Christians are raised (The “FIRST RESURRECTION”), and THEN we who are alive and remain are caught up to meet with Jesus. How else do we tie Matt24 and Luke17, with Matt13? Do you have an answer?

You see, WildB, when we engage in Scriptural discussions, we have only a few choices when someone posts Scriptures which conflict with our prior doctrines. We can:

1. Dismiss the verses with a hand-wave and declare prior positions persist
2. Explain how the cited verses do not violate what we’ve said
3. Accept that prior understanding does not fit Scripture so our understanding changes

#1 is a “logical fallacy”, avoiding the question. There are several logical fallacies attempted on many Christian message boards—sometimes “ad-hominem” (impugning the other person posting to shut down discussion), sometimes citing other verses trying to establish why the first verse(s) do not say what they say (that’s still “avoiding”), or other devices. Some boards are known to ban people who are not arguing but only citing verses (as happened to me on a certain prominent “Pre-Trib-Rapture” board, and they still haven’t answered the cited verses!).

So where do we go from here, WildB? Do you have a way to explain Matt13 (the wicked are taken out of the righteous, leaving the righteous behind), and Matt24 and Luke17 (in the same way that the wicked were taken and destroyed in Noah’s and Lot’s time, so too in Jesus’ day will one in the field be TAKEN and one grinding TAKEN and one sleeping TAKEN)? Do you have an answer to 2Thess2:1-3, we are not yet gathered (and Jesus has not yet returned) when during the Tribulation the antichrist sits in the temple?

And there still remains the discussion of why the dual doctrines of "Pre-Trib-Rapture" and "OSAS' present the greatest danger we Christians can face. If we think Jesus will secretly return and escape us from the hard times, and if we think a truly-saved-person cannot become unsaved, what will happen to us if we find ourselves IN the Tribulation? What did Jesus mean when He said, "He who endures to the end will be saved"? Matt24:13.

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quote:
Originally posted by Gadgetere:
quote:
Originally posted by GISMYS13A:
After rapture day and you are left behind will you believe then? Will you remember this post on that day? Millions of believers will have vanished,what will you think? What will you say? What will you do? Your only chance is to call out to God! Repent and confess your sins,accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior though after the rapture the anti-christ will try to hunt you down and kill you!!! Why not be wise and be saved now?

Hi, Gismys! (I'm not sure you'll read this, your profile says "haven't been around recently"; I hope all is well and blessed in your world!)

After the Rapture --- who is "left behind"? Let's look at Matt24:37-40.

The coming of the Son of Man will be just
like in the days of Noah ...when the
flood took them away... Two men in the
field, one TAKEN and one left behind."


Wait -- which did the flood take, righteous or wicked? The flood did not take the righteous!

Luke17:26-31
"And just as it happened in the days of Noah,
so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:
(27) they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.
(28)It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building;
(29)but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.
(30)"It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed.
(32) "Remember Lot's wife.
(34)"I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left.
(35) "There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left.
(36) Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left."



Wait! Those taken (one from the field, one from the bed, one from the grindstone), are taken just like the FLOOD and FIRE "took and destroyed Noah's and Lot's contemporaries"! In no way can this be "the RIGHTEOUS taken"!

Read further in Luke --- verse 37 the listeners where plainly asking where the taken ones were taken TO!


And answering they said to Him, "Where, Lord?" And He said to them, "Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered."

The TAKEN ones (taken in "the day-of-Jesus", just like the FLOOD and FIRE took and destroyed them) --- those "taken ones" are thrown to vultures! It is the WICKED who are "taken" just like Noah's flood took and destroyed the, just like Lot's fire destroyed them, it is the RIGHTEOUS who are LEFT BEHIND!

Oops! The entire "Leftbehind" series is backwards! We WANT to be "left behind", we do not want to be wicked and taken/destroyed/thrown-to-vultures!

[Eek!]

Yikes! Your theory is False.

You need to stop reading other peoples dispensational mail and force feeding it into the Dispensation of Grace.


Study "Harpazo" and see if your theory fits.





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quote:
Originally posted by GISMYS13A:
After rapture day and you are left behind will you believe then? Will you remember this post on that day? Millions of believers will have vanished,what will you think? What will you say? What will you do? Your only chance is to call out to God! Repent and confess your sins,accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior though after the rapture the anti-christ will try to hunt you down and kill you!!! Why not be wise and be saved now?

Hi, Gismys! (I'm not sure you'll read this, your profile says "haven't been around recently"; I hope all is well and blessed in your world!)

After the Rapture --- who is "left behind"? Let's look at Matt24:37-40.

The coming of the Son of Man will be just
like in the days of Noah ...when the
flood took them away... Two men in the
field, one TAKEN and one left behind."


Wait -- which did the flood take, righteous or wicked? The flood did not take the righteous!

Luke17:26-31
"And just as it happened in the days of Noah,
so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man:
(27) they were eating, they were drinking, they were marrying, they were being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.
(28)It was the same as happened in the days of Lot: they were eating, they were drinking, they were buying, they were selling, they were planting, they were building;
(29)but on the day that Lot went out from Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven and destroyed them all.
(30)"It will be just the same on the day that the Son of Man is revealed.
(32) "Remember Lot's wife.
(34)"I tell you, on that night there will be two in one bed; one will be taken and the other will be left.
(35) "There will be two women grinding at the same place; one will be taken and the other will be left.
(36) Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other will be left."



Wait! Those taken (one from the field, one from the bed, one from the grindstone), are taken just like the FLOOD and FIRE "took and destroyed Noah's and Lot's contemporaries"! In no way can this be "the RIGHTEOUS taken"!

Read further in Luke --- verse 37 the listeners where plainly asking where the taken ones were taken TO!


And answering they said to Him, "Where, Lord?" And He said to them, "Where the body is, there also the vultures will be gathered."

The TAKEN ones (taken in "the day-of-Jesus", just like the FLOOD and FIRE took and destroyed them) --- those "taken ones" are thrown to vultures! It is the WICKED who are "taken" just like Noah's flood took and destroyed the, just like Lot's fire destroyed them, it is the RIGHTEOUS who are LEFT BEHIND!

Oops! The entire "Leftbehind" series is backwards! We WANT to be "left behind", we do not want to be wicked and taken/destroyed/thrown-to-vultures!

[Eek!]

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After rapture day and you are left behind will you believe then? Will you remember this post on that day? Millions of believers will have vanished,what will you think? What will you say? What will you do? Your only chance is to call out to God! Repent and confess your sins,accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior though after the rapture the anti-christ will try to hunt you down and kill you!!! Why not be wise and be saved now?

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