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Michael Harrison
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Who did Saul Alinsky give praise to?

http://www.truveo.com/The-Secret-Satanic-Agenda-of-Barack-Obama/id/1297739889

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Obama is already plotting against opposition and he has only been in office for a week. One example is that in his 'bailout' bill, he has allocated an unimaginable amount of money to an organization who is a proxy of ACORN. It just happens to be labeled as though it is directed towards a children’s group. So what it will accomplish is the financing of his agenda, through ACORN, so that he will be able to stay in power. Remember the fraudulent voting, and the organizing of 'park bench' voters, who were glad to vote - for the promise of a pack of cigarettes? HE knows the opposition he is up against, and is laying the groundwork to defeat it already.

And, we are in checkmate. It is a political correctness dilemma. We, wanting to be 'nice' and accomodating, dare not stir up anything unpleasant. Well, it is right ouf of the "Rules for Radicals," cookbook, in that it plays into his hands. Anyway, we need to find a way to break the bondage of 'checkmate'. One way is the next election in two years. At this time we will vote again. Perhaps we can topple his party's control of Congress, and Senate.

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I normally do not endorse kookie stuff, but this is FWIW. I tend to find it acceptable. But when things turn bad, people who submit this kind of stuff can easily be written off as strange, by the secular humanists. But still, I offer it here.

Saul Alinsky, who died in 1972, at the age of 63, was a Chicago Marxist. Among his many books was one titled "Rules for Radicals," in which he explained to his acolytes, "The most effective means are whatever will achieve the desired results." It took Alinsky 11 words to paraphrase Karl Marx's far more succinct "The ends justify the means."
Alinsky, by the way, dedicated that particular book to Lucifer, whom he coyly referred to as "the first radical."

AND CHRISTIANS (SUPPOSEDLY SO) VOTED FOR HIM!

The reason I'm bringing up Alinsky 26 years after he wound up in a place where he could personally autograph his book for Beelzebub is because his disciples are still very much with us. For instance, he just happened to be the subject of Hillary Rodham's senior honors thesis at Wellesley College. It was such a glowing homage that, in 1968, a most appreciative Alinsky offered her a job in Chicago, but Ms. Rodham, as we all know, had bigger fish to fry. However, when she became America's First Lady, the White House asked Wellesley to restrict access to the paper, and Wellesley wisely obliged, just as Princeton did when the Obamas requested that Michelle's racist screed be removed from circulation.

Maybe it is not eloquent, but this video says some things that if printed, some may not bother to read.
http://www.truveo.com/The-Secret-Satanic-Agenda-of-Barack-Obama/id/1297739889

Here are others!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2087722/posts

http://operationstreetcorner.org/obama-file.html

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/hillary-rodham-clinton/2007/03/
http://www.truveo.com/The-Secret-Satanic-Agenda-of-Barack-Obama/id/1297739889
Larry c johnson noquarter
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/03/the-attempt-to-silence-obamas-youtube-critics/

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Excerpts by an informed mind.



For example, the blistering 40-page rebuttal to Corsi's book put out by the Obama campaign could not deny that the "Frank" in Obama's 1995 book "Dreams From My Father," the "mentor" to young Barack, was in fact Frank Marshall Davis, a Communist Party member. Davis' many writings and poems are filled with communist propaganda, including anti-American statements which became the subject of investigation by the FBI and numerous congressional committees.

In another revealing rebuttal point, the Obama campaign sought to play down the connection between Obama and '60s-era terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn saying the two were "members of the establishment" Which "establishment"? The anarchists? The communists?

The "rebuttal" to Corsi's book could not dispel the ghost of Saul Alinsky either. The radical organizer and author of "Rules for Radicals" (hint: there are no rules), Alinsky was and is Obama's role model (and Hillary's too). Alinsky preached the destruction of America's capitalist society by organizing the masses through calls for "change." Sound familiar?

I interviewed Corsi for my radio show. He patiently went through the carefully researched book (almost 700 footnotes), declining to speculate on matters that could not be fully documented – like the questionable Hawaii birth certificate.

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Saul Alinsky is Obama's idol. Obama is the essence of Alinsky. Now, when I observe Obama, I could easily like him. However, it is when one looks into the closets that Obama is guarding, that one discovers the disconcerting, and his true face is revealed.

In the Alinsky model, "organizing" is a euphemism for "revolution" -- a wholesale revolution whose ultimate objective is the systematic acquisition of power by a purportedly oppressed segment of the population, and the radical transformation of America's social and economic structure. The goal is to foment enough public discontent, moral confusion, and outright chaos to spark the social upheaval that Marx, Engels, and Lenin predicted -- a revolution whose foot soldiers view the status quo as fatally flawed and wholly unworthy of salvation. Thus, the theory goes, the people will settle for nothing less than that status quo's complete collapse -- to be followed by the erection of an entirely new system upon its ruins. Toward that end, they will be apt to follow the lead of charismatic radical organizers who project an aura of confidence and vision, and who profess to clearly understand what types of societal "changes" are needed.

As Alinsky put it: "A reformation means that the masses of our people have reached the point of disillusionment with past ways and values. They don't know what will work but they do know that the prevailing system is self-defeating, frustrating, and hopeless. They won't act for change but won't strongly oppose those who do. The time is then ripe for revolution."[1]


But Alinsky's brand of revolution was not characterized by dramatic, sweeping, overnight transformations of social institutions. As Richard Poe puts it, "Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties." He advised organizers and their disciples to quietly, subtly gain influence within the decision-making ranks of these institutions, and to introduce changes from that platform. This was precisely the tactic of "infiltration" advocated by Lenin and Stalin.[3] As Communist International General Secretary Georgi Dimitroff told the Seventh World Congress of the Comintern in 1935:

To counter that materialism, Alinsky favored a socialist alternative. He characterized his noble radical (read: "revolutionary") as a social reformer who "places human rights far above property rights"; who favors "universal, free public education"; who "insists on full employment for economic security" but stipulates also that people's tasks should "be such as to satisfy the creative desires within all men"; who "will fight conservatives" everywhere; and who "will fight privilege and power, whether it be inherited or acquired," and "whether it be political or financial or organized creed."[7] Alinsky maintained that radicals, finding themselves "adrift in the stormy sea of capitalism,"[8] sought "to advance from the jungle of laissez-faire capitalism to a world worthy of the name of human civilization."[9] "They hope for a future," he said, "where the means of production will be owned by all of the people instead of just a comparative handful."[10] In short, they wanted socialism.


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So, in Michael's own words, "Freedom doesn't mean anything to those who do not benefit, or do not think that they benefit as much as others do. Therefore due to the greed supposedly 'cheated,' it should be trampled. And further, borrowing from others to say this, communism breeds in the minds of the ignorant. And the election to these people is viewed as the storming of the Bastille. Indeed, how ignorant. For you have come a long way baby, to throw it all away now in a revolution.

I watched a message by the late * today. In it he made reference to the fact that America is in moral confusion right now. This of course was a comment he made long before we were aware of Obama. In my mind I had to reflect on this extract of random paragraphs, particularly the first one which mentions 'moral confusion.'

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