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redkermit
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That's some good stuff. I really like the got questions site, and have used it often.
I heard on the radio on the way home yesterday, which I have heard this before, that part of Canada's law will make it a crime to speak out against homosexuality. That it would be considered a "hate crime". Supposedly, there is a clause in there for preachers, but like the host said, there are always loopholes and ways around things. Not to state the obvious or anything, but I think it is setting quite the dangerous precedent.
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lonlesol
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I don't see why it would be against the rules to talk about it. Please share...
On the board I usually go to, it is against the rules so I wanted to make sure before I start a thread with this subject...
Yes, I am upset about that!!!... ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Homosexuality is as much a sin as murder and incest among other sins! It is against God's Word and I have proof of this...
Jesus tells us to love all people but he doesn't tell us that we have to tolerate their sins does he?...
Question: "What does the Bible say about homosexuality? Is homosexuality a sin?"
http://www.gotquestions.org/homosexuality.html
Answer: The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When a person continues in sin and disbelief, the Bible tells us that God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.
God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that a person becomes a homosexual because of sin (Romans 1:24-27), and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person choosing to sin by giving into their sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger / rage, does that make it right for then to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true for homosexuality.
However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1Corinthians 6:11; 2Corinthians 5:17).
I edited one word, I don't want to call these people that way...
Question: "Does God hate f**s?"
http://www.gotquestions.org/God-hates-fags.html
Answer: There is a "ministry" / "church" in the United States that promotes the slogan "God hates f**s!" This group pickets gay parades, gay bars, gay events, etc. This group has even picketed the funerals of gay people, shouting to the attendees that the gay person is now burning in Hell for being a "f**." On its website, this group has a counter which updates daily how long a certain gay person has supposedly been in Hell. Does God really hate "f**s"? Please note - we are reluctant to even use the term "f**." We only do so in response to the "ministry" which promotes the "God hates f**s" concept.
Proverbs 6:16-19 tells us, "There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers." Notice that homosexuality does not make this list. It would be more Biblical to promote phrases such as "God hates liars" and "God hates murderers." In fact, the Bible nowhere directly states that God hates homosexuals or homosexuality.
That does not mean that the Bible approves of homosexuality. The Bible consistently tells us that homosexuality is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; Romans 1:26-27; 1Corinthians 6:9). Homosexuality is described as an abomination. Romans 1:26-27 teaches explicitly that homosexuality is a result of a continual rebellion against God. When a person continues in disbelief, the Bible tells us that God “gives them over,” God allows them to experience their sinful desires and the resulting consequences. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. Homosexuality is immoral and unnatural. It is a perversion of the "natural order" and more importantly, God's view of sex.
With all that said, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin that any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17).
Does God hate f**s? No. Does God approve of homosexuality? Absolutely not. Can a person truly be a Christian and at the same time a practicing homosexual? No (1 Corinthians 6:9). The "God hates f**s" ministry fails miserably in the message it proclaims. Ephesians 4:15 instructs us to "speak the truth...in love." 1 Peter 3:15 teaches us to proclaim the truth, but to do so with "gentleness and respect." We must uphold the truth of God's Word in proclaiming the sinfulness of homosexuality. However, we must uphold this truth in a loving, gentle, and respectful manner. We must warn homosexuals about the eternal dangers of continued rebellion against God. At the same time, our message should be focused on the forgiveness and freedom from sin that is available through the Lord Jesus Christ.
Question: "What is the definition of sin?"
http://www.gotquestions.org/what-is-sin.html
Answer: There are three types of sin. There is imputed sin, inherited sin and personal sin. I will explain these as we progress through the question. Sin originated in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve. Look at Genesis 3:1-7 which states, “Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say you must not eat from any tree in the garden?" This was the first of many lies Satan has told.
Genesis 3 continues, "The woman said to the serpent, we may eat fruit from the trees in the garden but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden and you must not touch it or you will die (this is not exactly what God said either, Eve’s first lie). ‘You will not surely die, the serpent said to the woman. For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.’ When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband who was with her and he ate it. Then the eyes of both of them were opened and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.” That’s where sin began.
Now from this act of sin by Adam and Eve we get what is referred to as imputed sin and inherited sin. Imputed means to attribute or reckon or ascribe to someone. It’s not just influence but involvement that is at the heart of the concept. Since Adam and Eve were the first created beings and we actually came from that beginning, positionally we were there with them in essence when this act was preformed. That sin was then imputed to us from them that is Adam and Eve.
Inherited sin is that sin that is passed along from generation to generation. That same original sin plus others that they made (Adam and Eve and their family) was passed along to us as an inheritance. Our parents inherited the sins of their parents and we inherited their sins as well. We will pass our sins along to our children and they will pass it along to their children. In your question you wondered about what David is referring to in Psalm 51. You can see from this that we have that original sin with us when we are born and even when we are conceived in our mother’s womb. Some call this inherited sin others refer to it as our sin nature focusing on the fact that sin has corrupted the entire nature. Still others call it original sin, because Adams’ original sin produced that moral corruption which had been passed along to all generations.
Then of course there is our personal sin, that is the things we ourselves do that are not pleasing to God or against his laws and decrees, Romans 3:23 says, "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God." But, we have hope if we have accepted Jesus Christ as our personal Savior because Romans 6:23 says, “For the wages of sin death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Christ cleansed us from all sin when His blood from that cross washed our sins away. When we look at I John 1:9 it says, “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleans us from all unrighteousness.” When we lie (even little white ones) cheat, steal, use God’s name in vain, commit adultery, fornication, homosexuality, use harmful drugs, alcohol, murder, pornography etc., you get the picture I’m sure. These are not simply mistakes or coincidences. They are sins against God who loves us more than we will ever really know upon this earth.
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lonlesol, are you as upset about Bill C-38 being passed by Parliament in Canada to legislate same sex marriage as I am? I hope we're not placing judgment on our nation by doing so.
Oops - I had to edit my post to add "not placing" (I had "I hope we're placing" before) I surely don't want God to withdraw his favour from our country because of this grave error in turning away from the Bible.
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redkermit
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I don't see why it would be against the rules to talk about it. Please share...
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1 John 2:6
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lonlesol
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Is it against the rules here to talk about gay marriages?
I would like to know because there are a few things that I would like to say about the subject...
If it is against the rules, then I will keep this to myself...
Thank you...
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