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yahsway
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Shalom and thank you for that Kindgo, you are a blessing to many of us messianc Jews. (This is from my hubby, a messianic Jew)
Anti-Semitism is definately on the rise and we also see it in many different denominations.
Its sad, but true.
Of course hubby and i believe that All believing Jews and Gentiles are ISRAEL.
Now hubby and i believe in a mid-tribulation rapture, but no matter, its not a salvation issue to us.
And we know that the Nation of Israel today is over 70% secular. We are also of the opinon that the Church has dropped the ball as far as evangelizing or making the Jews "jealous" as Paul states in scripture.
But we also know that God has blinded them (not all) but He did this for the sake of the Nations(Gentiles).
I know the time is closer than ever for more Messianic Jews have come to know Yeshua as Savior in the last 20 years than the last 2000 years since He walked the earth.
And just this week when i have watched different religous programs on TV, i have noticed many different preachers and churchs turning toward Israel in a better light.
I believe that verse which says that the hearts of the children are turning back to the Fathers is happening now.
Again thank you for sharing those important truths. Shalom
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Kindgo
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Romans 11;25-27
"I do not want you to be ingorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited:
Israel has experienced a hardening of heart until the full number of Gentiles has come into the kingdom. And so it will be after that, All Israel will be saved, as it is written:
'The deliever will come from Zion;
he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
And this is my covenant with them
when I take away their sins.'"
Thus, according to Romans, in the last days, when the fullness of gentiles have come into the kingdom, "all israel will be saved"... in otherwords, the greatest revival will be amongst the Jews.
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Kindgo
Inside the will of God there is no failure. Outside the will of God there is no success.
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Kindgo
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"Behold, I will gather them out of all the lands to which I have driven them in My anger, in My wrath, and in great indignation; and I will bring them back to this place and make them dwell in safety. And they shall be My people, and I will be their God; and I will give them one heart and one way, that they may fear Me always, for their own good, and for the good of their children after them.
And I will make an everlasting covenant with them that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; and I will put the fear of Me in their hearts so that they will not turn away from Me.
And I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will faithfully plant them in this land with all My heart and with all My soul." For thus says the Lord, "Just as I brought them all this great disaster on this people, so I am going to bring on them all the good that I am promising them." ?Jeremiah 32:37-42
What do you think of the modern state of Israel?
Hardly a day passes without seeing this small country, about the size of New Jersey, in the newspaper or on television news.
Why?
Because Israel is God's elect nation and He is preparing her and the world for "a great tribulation, such as has not occurred since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever shall" (Matt. 24:21).
The emphasis is upon preparing, because we are still in the church age and not yet in the seven-year tribulation.
The Modern State of Israel
What a wonderful job the modern Israelis have done in subduing this small area and making it the most productive agricultural enterprise in the world.
There are many other accomplishments that have been achieved during the last 60 years.
What one believes about the future of Israel is of utmost importance to one's understanding of the Bible.
I believe, without a shadow of doubt, that Old Testament promises made to national Israel will literally be fulfilled in the future.
This means the Bible teaches that God will return the Jews to their land before the tribulation begins (Isa. 11:11?12:6; Ezek. 20:33-44; 22:17-22; Zeph. 2:1-3).
This has been accomplished and the stage is set as a result of the current existence of the modern state of Israel. The Bible also indicates that before Israel enters into her time of national blessing she must first pass through the fire of the tribulation (Deut. 4:30; Jer. 30:5-9; Dan. 12:1; Zeph. 1:14-18).
Even though the horrors of the Holocaust under Hitler were of an unimaginable magnitude, the Bible teaches that a time of even greater trial awaits Israel during the tribulation.
Anti-Semitism will reach new heights, this time global in scope, in which two-thirds of world Jewry will be killed (Zech. 13:7-9; Rev. 12).
Through this time God will protect His remnant so that before His second advent "all Israel will be saved" (Rom. 11:36). In fact, the second coming will include the purpose of God's physical rescue of Israel from world persecution during Armageddon (Dan. 12:1; Zech. 12-14; Matt. 24:29-31; Rev. 19:11-21). Matthew 24:22 says, "And unless those days had been cut short, no life would have been saved; but for the sake of the elect those days shall be cut short."
Also.......
Regarding the nation of Israel, we might add this verse.
" AND I WILL BLESS THEM THAT BLESS THEE, AND CURSE HIM THAT CURSETH THEE: AND IN THEE SHALL ALL FAMILIES OF THE EARTH BE BLESSED"
Gen 12:3
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God bless,
Kindgo
Inside the will of God there is no failure. Outside the will of God there is no success.
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Kindgo
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Hello everyone,
The devil hates the Jewish people with a passion. The Jews are the ones that gave mankind the Bible and the Savior Jesus Christ.
It should come as no surprise that nations who are demonically controlled would share in the devil's hatred of Israel.
I've listed a number of popular myths about Israel, and I've also provided facts to counter those lies.
MYTH:
"The land of Israel is really the land of Palestine."
FACT:
The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century A.D., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.3 There is no language known as Palestinian. There is no distinct Palestinian culture. There has never been a land known as Palestine governed by Palestinians. Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.
MYTH:
"The Jews have no historic claim to Israel."
FACT:
There is only one people who have continuously lived in Israel for the past 3,700 years - the Jews. Jerusalem, in particular, has had a Jewish majority since the 1840s, 40 years prior to the beginnings of Zionism. Seventy-five percent of the land in east Jerusalem, which the press calls "historically Arab east Jerusalem," has been owned by Jews since 1947. The nations that inhabited the land prior to the Jews are no longer in existence, for they have been absorbed into various other peoples throughout the millennia. The Arabs of Israel only came to the land in 632 with the Muslim invasion
MYTH:
"The creation of the state of Israel in 1948 changed political and border arrangements between independent states that had existed for centuries."
FACT:
The boundaries of most Middle East countries were arbitrarily fixed by the Western powers after Turkey was defeated in World War I and the French and British mandates were set up. The areas allotted to Israel under the UN partition plan had all been under the control of the Ottomans, who had ruled Palestine from 1517 until 1917. When Turkey was defeated in World War I, the French took over the area now known as Lebanon and Syria. The British assumed control of Palestine and Iraq. In 1926, the borders were redrawn and Lebanon was separated from Syria. Britain installed the Emir Faisal, who had been deposed by the French in Syria, as ruler of the new kingdom of Iraq. In 1922, the British created the emirate of Transjordan, which incorporated all of Palestine east of the Jordan River. This was done so that the Emir Abdullah, whose family had been defeated in tribal warfare in the Arabian peninsula, would have a Kingdom to rule. None of the countries that border Israel became independent until this century. Many other Arab nations became independent after Israel.
MYTH:
"Israel violates the human rights of the Palestinian Arabs."
FACT:
The FACTs are different. Israel granted full citizenship to all of the Palestinian Arabs who fell within its borders after the War of Independence. Arabic is an official language in Israel. Israel remains to this day one of the few countries in the Middle East where Arabs can legitimately vote and the only one where women can vote.
MYTH:
"The West Bank is part of Jordan."
FACT:
The West Bank was never legally part of Jordan. Under the UN's 1947 partition plan - which the Jews accepted and the Arabs rejected - it was to have been part of an independent Arab state in western Palestine. But the Jordanian army invaded and occupied it during the 1948 war. In 1950, Jordan annexed the West Bank. Only two governments - Great Britain and Pakistan - formally recognized the Jordanian takeover. The rest of the world, including the United States, never did. During the 1950-1967 period of its occupation, Jordan permitted terrorists to launch raids into Israel. Amman lost the West Bank after the Jordanian army entered the 1967 war.
MYTH:
"Jerusalem is Islam's third most holy city."
FACT:
Muslims try to connect Jerusalem to Islam by using a vague passage in the Koran, the seventeenth Sura, entitled "The Night Journey." It relates that in a dream or a vision Mohammed was carried by night "from the sacred temple to the temple that is most remote, whose precinct we have blessed, that we might show him our signs. ..." In the seventh century, some Muslims identified the two temples mentioned in this verse as being in Mecca and Jerusalem. And that's as close as Islam's connection with Jerusalem gets -- myth, fantasy, wishful thinking. Meanwhile, Jews can trace their roots in Jerusalem back to the days of Abraham.
MYTH:
"The Temple Mount has always been a Muslim holy place and Judaism has no connection to the site."
FACT:
The area of Solomon's Stables is believed to date as far back as the construction of Solomon's Temple. According to Josephus, it was in existence and was used as a place of refuge by the Jews at the time of the conquest of Jerusalem by Titus in the year 70 A.D. More authoritatively, the Koran - the holy book of Islam - describes Solomon's construction of the First Temple (34:13) and recounts the destruction of the First and Second Temples (17:7). The Jewish connection to the Temple Mount dates back more than 3,000 years and is rooted in tradition and history. When Abraham bound his son Isaac upon an altar as a sacrifice to God, he did so atop Mount Moriah, today's Temple Mount.
MYTH:
"Under Israeli rule, religious freedom has been curbed in Jerusalem."
FACT:
After the 1967 war, Israel abolished all the discriminatory laws promulgated by Jordan and adopted its own tough standard for safeguarding access to religious shrines. "Whoever does anything that is likely to violate the freedom of access of the members of the various religions to the places sacred to them," Israeli law stipulates, is "liable to imprisonment for a term of five years." Israel also entrusted administration of the holy places to their respective religious authorities. Thus, for example, the Muslim Waqf has responsibility for the mosques on the Temple Mount.
MYTH:
"The Arab states have had to keep pace with an Israeli-led arms race."
FACT:
In most cases, the reverse was true. Egypt received the Soviet IL-28 bomber in 1955. It was not until 1958 that France provided Israel with a squadron of comparable Sud Vautour twin-jet tactical bombers. In 1957, Egypt obtained MiG-17 fighter planes. Israel received the comparable Super Mystere in 1959. Egypt had submarines in 1957, Israel in 1959. After the Egyptians obtained the MiG-21, the Israelis ordered the Dassault Mirage III supersonic interceptor and fighter-bomber. Egypt received ground-to-air missiles - the SA-2 - two years before Israel obtained HAWK missiles from the United States. Later, Washington reluctantly agreed to sell Israel Patton tanks.
MYTH:
"Israel's destruction of Iraqi nuclear facilities was an unjust act."
FACT:
Back in June 1981 after the Israelis bombed the plant at Osirak the U.N. Security Council unanimously condemned Isreal. Washington ostentatiously held up its delivery of armaments to Israel. A decade later, however, the strike looks awfully good. Had Saddam Hussein been armed with nuclear weapons during the war with Iran, much of Tehran would by now be obliterated and large sections of Iran annexed to Iraq. More: Iraqi forces might have rolled straight from Kuwait into Saudi Arabia-long before American forces could have arrived. Today, Saddam could already control five of the oil-rich countries and thereby over half the world's oil reserves. Economic disaster would be one result; and American troops would have no good place to land.
MYTH:
"Israel has been an expansionist state since its creation."
FACT:
Israel's boundaries were determined by the United Nations when it adopted the partition resolution in 1947. In a series of defensive wars, Israel captured additional territory. On numerous occasions, Israel has withdrawn from these areas. As part of the 1974 disengagement agreement, Israel returned territories captured in the 1967 and 1973 wars to Syria. Under the terms of the 1979 Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty, Israel withdrew from the Sinai peninsula for the third time. It had already withdrawn from large parts of the desert area it captured in its War of Independence. After capturing the entire Sinai in the 1956 Suez conflict, Israel relinquished the peninsula to Egypt a year later. In September 1983, Israel withdrew from large areas of Lebanon to positions south of the Awali River. In 1985, it completed its withdrawal from Lebanon, except for a narrow security zone just north of the Israeli border. That too was abandoned, unilaterally, in 2000. After signing peace agreements with the Palestinians, and a treaty with Jordan, Israel agreed to withdraw from most of the territory in the West Bank captured from Jordan in 1967. A small area was returned to Jordan, the rest was ceded to the Palestinian Authority. The agreement with the Palestinians also involved Israel's withdrawal in 1994 from most of the Gaza Strip, which had been captured from Egypt in 1973.
MYTH:
"Israel is the aggressor in the current conflict."
FACTS:
One: The Palestinians are the aggressor; they started the conflict, and they purposely drive it forward with fresh killing on almost a daily basis.
Two: The Palestinians regard this second intifada not as a sporadically violent protest movement but as a war, with the clear strategic aim of forcing a scared and emotionally exhausted Israel to surrender on terms that would threaten Israel's viability.
Three: As a tactic in this strategy, the Palestinians will not fight Israeli forces directly but instead have concentrated their efforts on murdering Israeli civilians. The greater the number, the more pathetically vulnerable the victims -- disco-goers, women and children in a pizza restaurant -- the better.
Four: Israel has acted defensively in this conflict; and while Israeli forces accidentally killed Palestinian civilians, their planned lethal attacks have all been aimed only at Palestinian military and terror-group leaders.
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God bless,
Kindgo
Inside the will of God there is no failure. Outside the will of God there is no success.
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