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Kindgo
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Oh sister you crack me up! ![[pound]](graemlins/pound.gif) ![[roll on floor]](graemlins/6.gif)
It is GROSS ain't it? ![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
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Kindgo
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helpforhomeschoolers
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EEEEWWWWW! You are giving me the Heevy Jeevies! (insert that little emoticon that spits and faints) I repeat EEEYYYEEWWWW! ![[1zhelp]](graemlins/1zhelp.gif)
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Kindgo
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Heres some more pictures of the fibers...
http://www.morgellons.org/images.html
http://www.cure-skin-parasite.com/eguide/
"One researcher claims that the organism is found widespread
in bottled spring water from France. One study revealed that
1/3 of bottled waters are contaminated with this organism."
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Kindgo
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WKUHilltopper
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Originally posted by Eduardo Grequi:
I remember seeing people who were exposed to mustard agent. In particular- the mustard agent blistered the skin, in what I saw in Thailand near the tail end of Vietnam- Some of the Joes- had large blisters, and necrotic tissue.
That's the way I remember it described by my grandfather, a WW1 vet. He said he was hit with mustard gas, thanks to the Germans.
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Originally posted by BrazilianMommy:
The bible does mention open sores and people wanting to die because of so much suffering and the death would run from them. Something like this, you guys know which part I am talking about .
Yes, but apparently this is after the Mark of the Beast is received and the Beast is worshipped:
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Revelation 16:
2And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image
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10And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
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Psalm 119:104Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way. 105Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
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I remember seeing people who were exposed to mustard agent. In particular- the mustard agent blistered the skin, in what I saw in Thailand near the tail end of Vietnam- Some of the Joes- had large blisters, and necrotic tissue. That made them apeared to have their skin set ablazed. Now I do know that the brown cecluse spider when it bites, it cause deep underlying tissue damage. And form most it causes deep scaring. For some diabetic patients they would not heal effectively and had to have amputations when it was possible. Nowadays here in the border- I have been seeing people in their 30-50 years of age come down with unexplained kidney failures, cardiac arrest. For alot hispanic people Diabetes is so prevelant like sin. 1 in 3 hispanics are diagnosed with Diabetes during their lifetimes.
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WKUHilltopper
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Originally posted by WhiteEagle:
This article is not credible to me as a nurse. It only gives stories by people and there is no factual or scientific facts.
You mean the one Kindgo posted or the Popular Mechanics article?
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The bible does mention open sores and people wanting to die because of so much suffering and the death would run from them. Something like this, you guys know which part I am talking about .
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This article is not credible to me as a nurse. It only gives stories by people and there is no factual or scientific facts. When it mentions testings such as the lab it makes excuses as to why it couldn't be done or that it found nothing.
I think it might be an urban legend. I'll try to do a search myself and see if anything factual comes up.
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Popular Mechanics article in June, 2005 suggests this is all in people's heads--at least some of the Docs do.
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Making Their Skin Crawl
People with creepy symptoms find a diagnosis on the Internet. But are they jumping to conclusions?
BY BENJAMIN CHERTOFF
Photograph by Brent Humphreys
Published in the June, 2005 issue.
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Miles Lawrence, a landscaper in Florence, Texas, was supposed to be packing for a road trip to Las Vegas when he noticed his finger tingling. He stared in disbelief, he says, as "little spiny things" sprouted out of the skin where he'd just removed a splinter. He grasped one of the spines with tweezers and pulled.
Instantly, he says, a bolt of pain shot up his arm. He tugged on another one and the pain snaked up his neck. Then the really creepy part began. "It felt like bugs under the skin of my arms, in my joints," Lawrence says. "I freaked out."
Across the country, thousands of people complaining of the same horrifying phenomenon have formed an illness subculture. They share lists of symptoms, medical speculation and tales of run-ins with mainstream doctors at www.morgellons.org, the official Web site of a group called the Morgellons Research Foundation. It was founded in 2002 by Mary Leitao in McMurray, Pa. Leitao named the condition Morgellons Disease--after a disease with similar symptoms mentioned in a 16th-century medical text--while investigating a skin affliction on her then-2-year-old son.
Morgellons has barely registered on the radar of mainstream medicine. Few doctors have heard of the condition; fewer still know what to make of it. So when people walk into an examination room and announce they have Morgellons, they are often met with skepticism. Conflicts would seem to be inevitable.
"Dermatologists are afraid to see these patients," says Dr. Peter Lynch, professor emeritus of dermatology at the University of California, Davis. He says he has examined about 75 people with Morgellons-like symptoms in the past 35 years and believes they suffer from delusional parasitosis--literally, delusions of parasites in the skin. It's a diagnosis people don't like. One patient, threatening malpractice, convinced the state medical board to investigate Lynch. Another warned he had a pistol in the glove compartment of his truck, Lynch says. "He told me, 'I'm going to shoot the next doctor who tells me it's in my head.'"
LAB RESULTS
Members of the Morgellons online community say that, like those who suffer from breast cancer and AIDS, they merely want appropriate resources devoted to their illness. A letter-writing campaign recently netted a modicum of high-profile attention when U.S. Sens. Dianne Feinstein and Dick Durbin contacted the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), asking whether the organization had investigated the illness. The answer was no. "Our laboratories are available," says CDC spokeswoman Jennifer Morcone. "But we need a clinically appropriate sample." So far, she says, they've only received samples sent in by patients.
There's a reason for that. Lynch and a number of other doctors say they have sent samples to hospital pathologists, medical labs and state health boards, which have uniformly failed to find any sign of an infection. If there's nothing tangible to investigate, there's no reason to call in the big guns at CDC headquarters.
BACTERIA CULTURE
When Miles Lawrence sped to the hospital, he was told he had delusional parasitosis and that the weird spines were "just dirt." But over the next week his symptoms got worse. He scratched at his elbows and noticed more fibers, and little black specks. "It was like they were fighting back," he says.
Eventually, he found his way to a medical professional who does take the idea of Morgellons seriously. Ginger Savely, a nurse practitioner in Austin, Texas, says she has treated 35 patients with symptoms. "Everyone tells the exact same story," she says. "It's just so consistent." Savely prescribes her patients a course of broad-spectrum antibiotics. "If I knew what I was dealing with," she says, "it would be easier to treat." Yet, she says, her patients--including Lawrence--improve within weeks.
Other clinicians have likewise prescribed antibiotics. Dr. Raphael Stricker, a Lyme disease specialist in San Francisco, sees a handful of Morgellons patients--all of whom have tested positive for chronic Lyme disease. He thinks that Borrelia burgdorferi, the bacteria behind Lyme disease, has set his patients up for another, as-yet-unidentified, infection. And Dr. George Schwartz, a Santa Fe, N.M., trauma specialist, treats his patients with antibiotics targeted to Stenotrophomonas maltophilia--a usually harmless waterborne bacterium--and says he's seen them improve in only 48 hours.
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The apparent success of antibiotic treatment for Morgellons hasn't swayed doctors like Lynch--mainly because pathologists have failed to find an infectious agent. "These scientists can recognize things down to the prion level, and viruses that do everything to evade detection," he says. Lynch's preferred treatment: the antipsychotic drug risperidone--which works, he says, in as little as two weeks.
Another prominent dermatologist, who insisted on anonymity out of concern for his safety, says he has diagnosed 50 or so Morgellons patients with cutaneous dysaesthesia--a neurological disorder that can result in the sensation of scuttling insects. And the spiny things? "In every case I've seen it's a textile fiber, and it's on the surface of the skin," he says. He typically puts a cast over the lesions to prevent further irritation and after four weeks removes it. "Guess what?" he says. "The lesions are healed."
Leitao and other Morgellons activists say that, with the Web as a primary tool, they'll continue working to have the illness investigated as an infectious disease. Doctors interviewed by PM say this unilateral approach hinders objective analysis of symptoms they've seen for decades. Well, all symptoms except for one: Widespread reports of the strange fibers date back only three years, to the time they were first described online, at www.morgellons.org.
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Could this be a hoax illness? Meaning it's not real?
It's certainly easy enough to do lab studies of this lesions and determine if it's from tiny worms, another parasitic organism or from bacteria etc. Or another cause.
The web site seems not quite credible.
Probably not
http://www.morgellons.org/
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Sounds like another wonderful benefit of an unbriddled immigration policy. Used to be, immigrants would be medically screened. But it's hard to do it with people stomping thru the Rio Grande without challenge. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't some tropical south american diease.
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I read it might be a virus of some kind. Apparently somebody commited suicide because it was so horrible.
What a shame.
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Could this be a hoax illness? Meaning it's not real?
It's certainly easy enough to do lab studies of this lesions and determine if it's from tiny worms, another parasitic organism or from bacteria etc. Or another cause.
The web site seems not quite credible.
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oh, it is so sad. There are apparently about 1200 people who have it nationwide, and yet it is not recognized by the medical community. so there is no research being done... no state or federal dollars committed to do research and because Dr's do not know what to do, they are in some cases trying to ignore or claim that the people who have it are delusional. I read that there was a similar type thing happening in the 1600's and it was written about. A google search on this is very interesting and horribly sad for those who have this thing!
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Kindgo
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BIZARRE! Strange new disease in TX causes black oozing wounds which won't heal
http://www.mysanantonio.com/global-i....32030524.html
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If diseases like AIDS and bird flu scare you, wait until you hear what's next. Doctors are trying to find out what is causing a bizarre and mysterious infection that's surfaced in South Texas.
Morgellons disease is not yet known to kill, but if you were to get it, you might wish you were dead, as the symptoms are horrible
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"These people will have like beads of sweat but it's black, black and tarry," said Ginger Savely, a nurse practioner in Austin who treats a majority of these patients.
Patients get lesions that never heal.
"Sometimes little black specks that come out of the lesions and sometimes little fibers," said Stephanie Bailey, Morgellons patient.
Patients say that's the worst symptom — strange fibers that pop out of your skin in different colors.
"He'd have attacks and fibers would come out of his hands and fingers, white, black and sometimes red. Very, very painful," said Lisa Wilson, whose son Travis had Morgellon's disease.
While all of this is going on, it feels like bugs are crawling under your skin. So far more than 100 cases of Morgellons disease have been reported in South Texas.
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Travis Wilson developed Morgellons just over a year ago. He called his mother in to see a fiber coming out of a lesion.
"It looked like a piece of spaghetti was sticking out about a quarter to an eighth of an inch long and it was sticking out of his chest," Lisa Wilson said. "I tried to pull it as hard as I could out and I could not pull it out."
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So far, pathologists have failed to find any infection in the fibers pulled from lesions.
"Clearly something is physically happening here," said Dr. Randy Wymore, a researcher at the Morgellons Research Foundation at Oklahoma State University's Center for Health Sciences.
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Kindgo
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