Home / Christian Website Hosting / Christian Domain Names / Christian Search Engine
Rules, Policies, and Disclaimers

Christian Message Boards


Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply
my profile | directory login | register | search | faq | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Christian Message Boards   » Bible Studies   » End Time Events In The News   » The Antichrist has shown himself

 - UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: The Antichrist has shown himself
Gramajo320
Advanced Member
Member # 4667

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Gramajo320   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I truly do not believe that the man you speak of is the real antichrist. I do not believe that the time is quite right for the real antichrist to be revealed.

--------------------
Gramajo320

Posts: 2385 | From: WA | Registered: May 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
luvfreelife
Advanced Member
Member # 4642

Icon 1 posted      Profile for luvfreelife     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
HI 2Tim,

Some of the attributes I just listed in a recent posting above, there are however more.

Da:11:24: He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.

Saad has been in and visited most leaders of countries through out Europe. His father was well liked and respected, which opened the door for him.

He is one of the richest men on earth, which doesn't hurt his quest at all.

He is very smooth, which you will soon be able to hear on TV I'm sure.

There are people that have already stepped down so that he could run for the top office in lebanon unimpeded.


Da:11:25: And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.

The power that he will soon have is the 7 nations along with the 4 that he will rule, which is the seven heads on the beast. The ten horns on the beast is the United Nations.

The Bible shows two beasts, one coming out of the earth and the other out of the sea.

The One coming out of the earth, is the Seven nations that the Antichrist is in collusion with along with the 4 he controls. They all are muslim countries and will use their oil dominance to gain control of the United Nations.

The one coming out of the sea is the United Nations.
They will divide the earth up into sections of control. In biblical nomenclature seas or waters often denote world wide or many.

In the beginning, other religions are allowed, but just before the invasion of Isreal, that will be anulled (allowing only the muslim religion) and giving the United Nations the right to come in and stop the sacrifices of Isreal's Jewish people.

That's how the arms will stand on the antichrist's side.

(Dan 11:31-32 KJV) And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate. And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.

I expect the United Nations to be instrumental in the establishment of the peace treaty.

The reason I'm revealing this information is not to try to prove what I know, but I want the people in this forum to know what's going to happen, so that they can fortify themselves.

The happenings will be the most fearful and horrendous times that has ever happened in the world's history. Many will turn away, so it is necessary to give their complete heart and soul to our God, our heavenly father, and ask for his mercies and strength to endure.

That's the only reason I'm trying to get everyone's attention now.

Otherwise I'd just be sitting here enjoying the pleasanteries of these good people.

God bless you all,

luvfreelife

Posts: 28 | From: pennsylvania | Registered: May 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
redkermit
Advanced Member
Member # 4059

Icon 1 posted      Profile for redkermit     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by TEXASGRANDMA:
I think the closer we get to Jesus, the more we long for His return. In my life, I have seen people who have grown so close to God that you can feel God's Spirit when they walk in the room. Even though they never stopped working for God, their longing for Jesus' return grew much stronger. I guess it is like being in love with a person and wishing with all their might they would come home soon from a long trip.
betty

I understand exactly what you're saying, because I do feel that way. But it's a paradox of living. I want to be with Jesus, yes, but there are still things in this life I would like to experience. Just because this is true, doesn't mean I'm not as close to God as anyone else. I think that would be great if Jesus returned right now. I wouldn't think twice about what I haven't done. But, as long as I'm here...

--------------------
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked. (Ps. 84:10b)

1 John 2:6
Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.

Listen Online:
www.wmuz.com
www.997flr.org

Posts: 604 | From: Michigan | Registered: Nov 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TEXASGRANDMA
Advanced Member
Member # 847

Icon 1 posted      Profile for TEXASGRANDMA     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The ant- Christ is known before that, but not the truth about him. Many Jews will worship him because of the peace treaty he puts together between the Jews and the Arabs. But, those who did not take the mark and start studying God's Word, will know who he is. The Jews as a whole will not know until he scarafices the pig in the temple. Sadly many people around the world will take the mark and then realzie that they signed a pact with evil, but it will be too late. I read recently that people who know the truth now, but refuse it, take a chance on their heart being hardend, like Pharoh after the rapture. How sad it will be for someone who sat in Church week after week, and yet miss the rapture only to take the mark of the beast [crying]
betty

--------------------
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
http://www.indieheaven.com/artists/mm (son-in-law)http://www.myspace.com/mireles

Posts: 4985 | From: Washington State | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
whitesands777
Advanced Member
Member # 3424

Icon 1 posted      Profile for whitesands777     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The antichrist is revealed at the abomination of desolation...

You said that he has shown himself and it doesn't gel with scripture.

Also, in the book of Daniel it strongly indicates that the antichrist will come from Europe, also known as the Roman Empire.

Posts: 501 | Registered: May 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
luvfreelife
Advanced Member
Member # 4642

Icon 1 posted      Profile for luvfreelife     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
<<<<<
Letter values have nothing to do with the 666

referred to in Revelation.

If that were the case, there would have been no need

for wisdom to understand.

Only in these last days are we able to truly

understand.

Nothing mathematically refers to the AntiChrist.

It is in reference to the Mark, and the number of his

name - Which, if you refer to the Greek translation,

will help you understand what 666 really means.

It has nothing to do with adding up letters.
>>>>

I have to disagree with your statement that nothing

mathematically refers to the Antichrist.
The Number alone is referenced to the anichrist,

"666" which is obviously in the math family.

The book of revelations is full of mathematical
concepts relating to the antichrist.

I also know what the greek translation means which is an interwoven pointer to this time as well.

My analysis of SaadEddine Hariri being the
antichrist by way of using the alphabet numbered 1 thru 26 is not the only method I applied to obtain my opinion.

However in view of the fact that the book of
Revelations was written for the people of our age, it would be a mistake to assume that the present day alphabet has no relation to the identity of the Antichrist.

Daniel 11

21 ¶ And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

This is the current political situation in Lebanon.


They added: "We insist that his family will follow in

Hariri's footsteps and we do not take into
consideration any sectarian or confessional
considerations in our political and humanitarian
endeavors."
According to political analyst Sami Baroudi, if Saad does in fact run, "success is almost guaranteed.

There's a very strong pro-Hariri feeling."

May. 15, 2005
• Ghattas Khoury bows out of race, Hariri to announce electoral alliance tonight

Below source gives an overall picture of his
popularity.

http://www.futuretvnetwork.com/Default.aspx?page=news

&news_id=777

So Saadeddine fits that prophecy as well.


(Daniel 8:8-9) Therefore the he goat waxed very
great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven. And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

The little horn designates a small country , which Lebanon happens to be.

By the process of elimination, the only countries that the antichrist can be from is lebanon, Iraq and kuwaitt.

I will not go thru the complete process, since it is rather lengthy and ,as well, a blessing to read the bible, one should endeavor to assimilate this information themselves.

To sum up, my insight on Saad being the Antichrist is based on many prophecies of the Bible, as well as current time events.

The future will reveal the one with wisdom.

God bless you,

luvfreelife

Posts: 28 | From: pennsylvania | Registered: May 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TEXASGRANDMA
Advanced Member
Member # 847

Icon 1 posted      Profile for TEXASGRANDMA     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
I think the closer we get to Jesus, the more we long for His return. In my life, I have seen people who have grown so close to God that you can feel God's Spirit when they walk in the room. Even though they never stopped working for God, their longing for Jesus' return grew much stronger. I guess it is like being in love with a person and wishing with all their might they would come home soon from a long trip.
betty

--------------------
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
http://www.indieheaven.com/artists/mm (son-in-law)http://www.myspace.com/mireles

Posts: 4985 | From: Washington State | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
redkermit
Advanced Member
Member # 4059

Icon 1 posted      Profile for redkermit     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by bygrace:
Amen on that laurie!
I personally don't understand not wanting his return...

I don't think anyone said they didn't want His return.

quote:
Originally posted by bygrace:
Have you not noticed all that is going on in this sinful world?

All the more reason to get out there and reach the lost. There's lots of work to be done, and the laborers are few!

quote:
Originally posted by bygrace:
are you not concerned for your children?

I personally don't have any children, but would like to, so Lord willing, maybe He will tarry until then! I am not only concerned for children, but for all the unsaved.

quote:
Originally posted by bygrace:
but oh how much more Glorious to be with Jesus!!!
bygrace

Of course, I don't think anyone is denying this. As Mother of three said:

quote:
We still have so much to do to be right with the Lord. At this point in time I belive we should prepare and make sure that if he came tomorrow that we know that we were without sin and would go to heaven. We should stop worring about the time and just be sure that if we were to die today that we would be with the Lord.
And as I said:
quote:
There's nowhere else I'd rather be than in heaven...The end of the world has been predicted over and over. That doesn't mean we can relax, we must always be ready for His return


--------------------
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked. (Ps. 84:10b)

1 John 2:6
Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.

Listen Online:
www.wmuz.com
www.997flr.org

Posts: 604 | From: Michigan | Registered: Nov 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Gramajo320
Advanced Member
Member # 4667

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Gramajo320   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The bibical prophecies are being fulfilled at a very fast rate which we can see happening all around us. I do believe we are living in the end times.

--------------------
Gramajo320

Posts: 2385 | From: WA | Registered: May 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Eduardo Grequi
Advanced Member
Member # 3984

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Eduardo Grequi   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
First foremost our numbering systems comes from the Arabs, in the past like AV 1611 or so, we used the ROMAN NUMERALS & ARAB NUMERAL SYSTEM, the Hebrew numbering system is based on letter value, just like the GREEKS, ROMANS. I am sorry to think that a lot of Christians, shake off the word of God like it doesn't matter. If the bible both old and new testament are not in agreement then we have a fake. The bible says in 1 Corinthians not to esteem one day over the other like the pagans do, however as a sign-he being God said to hallow his Sabbaths. If it were not for the Catholic Pope way back when for changing the day of worship from saturday to sunday- we would be still worshipping on Saturdays. Where does a man dare to exegete himself over God, save he being corrupt and not one His? The bible clearly said IT IS A MAN and CALCULATE his number which is 666. THERE IS NOT A CHRISTIAN WHO CAN TELL ME THAT LETTERS DO NOT HAVE VALUE!
Posts: 771 | From: Belvidere, IL | Registered: Oct 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
bygrace
unregistered


Icon 1 posted            Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Amen on that laurie!
I personally don't understand not wanting his return...Have you not noticed all that is going on in this sinful world? are you not concerned for your children? I am. I have three children, I am praying and anticipating His return! That doesn't mean I don't love my children or want to have a full life with them if God permits this, but oh how much more Glorious to be with Jesus!!!
bygrace

IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
LaurieFL
Advanced Member
Member # 3794

Icon 1 posted      Profile for LaurieFL     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
We are told to watch and to wait for Christ's return.

When Jesus taught us to pray, He taught us to pray for His Kingdom to come...soon, is implied in that prayer, I believe.

The Bible says in several places in the New Testament that we are in the "last days." I believe these last days began when Christ died. I believe many signs point to those days drawing to an end sooner rather than later. I believe in a certain symmetry in God's ways. Although I cannot say when the Lord will return, I find it interesting that we draw near the end of a 2000-year period, which might well precede a 1000-year millenial reign, making a 7000-year history of mankind on this earth, if one takes the Bible literally.

As the Bride of Christ, we should always be ready for our Bridegroom; sanctified, separate and transformed from this world. We are to be busy at all times about the Lord's work as if the end is coming soon. There must be a sense of urgency in order to get the workers out for the harvest, in my opinion.

The Bride, the true bride, is so anxious to see her groom and to be married finally, that she does not find it easy to think of much else.

Consider us all giddy engaged women, for that is what I am...anxiously awaiting my bridegroom to take me home. I want Him to find me in a white, spotless gown, with a rosy blush of purity to my cheeks and with no stains of shame on me whatsoever.

Maranatha! Come quickly, Lord Jesus.

Posts: 700 | Registered: Aug 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
redkermit
Advanced Member
Member # 4059

Icon 1 posted      Profile for redkermit     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by mother of 3:
Why is everyone in such a rush for the end of life as we know it. I for one do not fell like the world is even close to being ready for his return. We still have so much to do to be right with the Lord. At this point in time I belive we should prepare and make sure that if he came tomorrow that we know that we were without sin and would go to heaven. We should stop worring about the time and just be sure that if we were to die today that we would be with the Lord.

I understand exactly what you're saying. I feel the same way. There's nowhere else I'd rather be than in heaven, but there are many things here on earth I would still like to experience.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. People have been saying for decades that we are in the end times. The end of the world has been predicted over and over. That doesn't mean we can relax, we must always be ready for His return, but I'm not going to say with such confidence as others do that He is coming back in my lifetime.

I'll live like there's no tomorrow (here on earth), but prepare as if there will be. Lord willing, I'll be able to find my wife somewhere out there, and be able to have a family. But, if it's not in His will, I'd be more than happy to spend eternity with Him!

[Smile]

--------------------
I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God than dwell in the tents of the wicked. (Ps. 84:10b)

1 John 2:6
Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.

Listen Online:
www.wmuz.com
www.997flr.org

Posts: 604 | From: Michigan | Registered: Nov 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TEXASGRANDMA
Advanced Member
Member # 847

Icon 1 posted      Profile for TEXASGRANDMA     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The Bible says we can tell the times just like we can tell when fall is coming by the way the wind blows. I believe that we are indeed living in the end times. Being a young mom, I can see that you are distressed about this, but as a Christian the end is nothing to fear. As a preacher said, He read the ending and the Christians win!
betty

--------------------
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
http://www.indieheaven.com/artists/mm (son-in-law)http://www.myspace.com/mireles

Posts: 4985 | From: Washington State | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
mother of 3
Community Member
Member # 4560

Icon 1 posted      Profile for mother of 3     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Why is everyone in such a rush for the end of life as we know it. I for one do not fell like the world is even close to being ready for his return. We still have so much to do to be right with the Lord. At this point in time I belive we should prepare and make sure that if he came tomorrow that we know that we were without sin and would go to heaven. We should stop worring about the time and just be sure that if we were to die today that we would be with the Lord.
Posts: 8 | From: NJ | Registered: Apr 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Favor Minded
Advanced Member
Member # 4661

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Favor Minded   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Letter values have nothing to do with the 666 referred to in Revelation.

If that were the case, there would have been no need for wisdom to understand.

Only in these last days are we able to truly understand.

Nothing mathematically refers to the AntiChrist.

It is in reference to the Mark, and the number of his name - Which, if you refer to the Greek translation, will help you understand what 666 really means.

It has nothing to do with adding up letters.

--------------------
Matthew 24:36
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father

Posts: 129 | From: WA | Registered: May 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TEXASGRANDMA
Advanced Member
Member # 847

Icon 1 posted      Profile for TEXASGRANDMA     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
Going to Church on Sunday is not the mark of the beast.

16 So don't let anyone condemn you for what you eat or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days or new-moon ceremonies or Sabbaths.

betty

--------------------
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
http://www.indieheaven.com/artists/mm (son-in-law)http://www.myspace.com/mireles

Posts: 4985 | From: Washington State | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Eduardo Grequi
Advanced Member
Member # 3984

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Eduardo Grequi   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
From the book "The Word Made Simple- Crusade Outlines and Bible Study Guide, Project Restore on pages 28 & 29.

QUOTE -" WHICH MARK WILL YOU RECEIVE?

"And hallow My Sabbaths, and they shall be a sign between Me and you, that ye may know that I am the Lord you God" (Eze. 20:20)

"Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change was her act. And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical power and authority in relgious matters." C.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons, Catholic Mirror, Sept. 23, 1895 ( emphasis supplied). See also Dies Domini, a Papal Apostlic letter issued May, 31, 1998, that promotes Sunday observance.
Once on the Pope's crown in Rome were written the words, "Vicarius Filii Dei" ( Vicar of the Son of God). As we noted before, the Pope still claims this title, even if his cown no longer bears it. The Bible says, "Count [calculate] the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man" (REV 13:18). If the number of the name Vicarius Filii Dei comes out to 666, we have our man.
letter Value letter Value Letter Value
V 5 F 0 D 500
I 1 I 1 E 0
C 100 L 50 I 1
A 0 I 1
R 0 I 1
I 1
U 5
S 0 Total: 666

In Greek, the title Lateinoes (Latin Man or Church) also amounts to 666. In Hebrew, the title Romilth (Roman Kingdom) amounts to the same thing. The world is challenged to find another in these languages- Greek, Hebrew, and Latin- which equals 666. It cannot be found.

UNQUOTE
==================================================
Consequently when I think of this, I reflect back on the day when Jesus was crucified and the message atop of His head was written in Greek, Hebrew and Latin.. In this particular book I am studying from -points this out. It also says-"The Catholic Church for over 1,000 years before the existence of a Protestant, by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday" ( Catholic Mirror, September 1893)

I am not saying or indicating that all catholics are lost, what I am saying the Vatican has left enough evidence to be proven to be the vice in which the beast or Antichrist will come out of and take hold of a failing world save the elect of God, which I believe are the born again believers in Christ Jesus. The book I am using is free CHECK their web sight www.ProjectRestore.com

Posts: 771 | From: Belvidere, IL | Registered: Oct 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Favor Minded
Advanced Member
Member # 4661

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Favor Minded   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
The book of Revelation was written in Greek, so it is important to note that any interpretation will need to consider the Greek version of the text in order to get the clearest possible understanding.

John told us it would take wisdom - The numbering thing has been around forever - If that is all the wisdom it took then we have seen MANY determine his identity already.

Revelation 13 -

16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.

This cannot be "Spiritual" because it denotes a literal mark used for buying and selling.

mark charagma

(khar'-ag-mah) A scratch or etching ie. a stamp (as a badge of servitude). It comes from charasso (which means to sharpen to a point.) {A microchip is an etching in a piece of silicon.}

name onoma

(on'-om-ah) A "name" (literally or figuratively) [authority, character] – eg. Having the authority of someone's name.

count psephizo
(psay-fid'-zo) To use pebbles in enumeration, ie. (in general) to compute or count. {Silicon chips are small pebbles of sand.)

man's anthropos
(anth'-ro-pos) Man-faced, ie. a human being – particularly a certain individual.

666 chi xi stigma
(khee xee stig'-ma) This can be interpreted as either a number (666) or as text:
"chi" means 600;
"xi" means 60.
"stigma" means 6,
but also means a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership). It comes from stizo (to "stick", ie. prick).

In Context
{16} He [the second beast] caused everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive an etching of servitude (a chip made with a sharp point) in their right hand, or in their foreheads; {17} so that no one could buy or sell unless they had the etching of servitude, or the authority of the beast, or the number of his authority. {18} Here is wisdom. Let him that has understanding count the number of the beast, for it is an individual's [identification] number. His number is incised with a pricking action.

"Etching" may refer to the incision into the skin, but more likely it refers to the chip itself, because that is exactly how microchips are made - by etching a piece of silicon with a sharp or pointed electron beam.

That some will be able to operate using "the authority of the beast" or with "the number of his authority" suggests that a select few, will have the authority to buy and sell etc without the chip being implanted in their hand or forehead.

If "the number of his authority" is interpreted as "the number of his name", then it could mean that you would be able to use your identification number manually (for phone or internet purchases) but this is inconsistent with the purpose of the chip.

In Rev 16:2 it says there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men who had the mark of the beast -

If the lithium in the chip escapes into the body, that's what'll happen!

Although there are numerous ways that the secular world has used the number 666 the interpretation of chi xi stigma as a number (666) is irrelevant.

The way to read it is, "Your identification number, incised or pricked into the skin."

See closely the RFID chip fits the description in Scripture. We are indeed very close to the time of the the Great Tribulation - Which means the Rapture IS INDEED VERY SOON!

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receives the mark of his name - Rev 14:9-11

The Mark is here - There are many who fit the descriptions of the AntiChrist persona...

TexasGrandma is correct, the church will not know who he is because the restrainer MUST be removed before the AntiChrist can step up.

He has too much opposition right now.

--------------------
Matthew 24:36
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father

Posts: 129 | From: WA | Registered: May 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
Niedziejkore
Advanced Member
Member # 2773

Icon 1 posted      Profile for Niedziejkore     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
quote:


comes out first name.. 66, second name 65 but if a 1 is placed in for the space, it is also 66.

wow. you can't be serious that you believe what you're saying. Try saying this out loud to yourself. D you still believe in it? Do you believe in fairies and elves too?

--------------------
Worker bees can leave
Even drones can fly away
The queen is their slave.

Posts: 346 | From: Wisconsin | Registered: Feb 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
TEXASGRANDMA
Advanced Member
Member # 847

Icon 1 posted      Profile for TEXASGRANDMA     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
You are right. While it is probable that the anit-christ is working now today. He will not be revealed until the Church is raptured out. As you just posted the Holy Spirit is holding him back at this time. But, when the Church is raptured so will be the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
betty

--------------------
Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
http://www.indieheaven.com/artists/mm (son-in-law)http://www.myspace.com/mireles

Posts: 4985 | From: Washington State | Registered: Jan 2003  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
WildB
Moderator
Member # 2917

Icon 1 posted      Profile for WildB   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
2Thes.2
1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
[6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.


[7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he(HolySpirit)who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

[8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
[9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

--------------------
That is all.....

Posts: 8061 | From: USA, MICHIGAN | Registered: Mar 2004  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator
luvfreelife
Advanced Member
Member # 4642

Icon 1 posted      Profile for luvfreelife     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote 
He's called SaadEddine Hariri, the son of the Hairi that was asasinated recently in lebanon.

He fits all the attributes that the bible gives on him.

He is smooth talking, people will take to him right away, he has a wide platform of support and he is from lebanon, which fits the bibles description of his home country.

His name, numbering the alphabet from 1 to 26

comes out first name.. 66, second name 65 but if a 1 is placed in for the space, it is also 66.

That however does not mean as much as all the other descriptions that the bible gives on him.
He matches that perfectly and now the first seal is opening as soon as he gets into office.

God bless all

luvfreelife

Posts: 28 | From: pennsylvania | Registered: May 2005  |  IP: Logged | Report this post to a Moderator


 
Post New Topic  New Poll  Post A Reply Close Topic   Feature Topic   Move Topic   Delete Topic next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | Christian Visual Media | Privacy Statement



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.5.0