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Miguel
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"We would transfer, or download, or upload, your personality and your soul into this new being..
Wow the madnes of this man.
ROM 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
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Kindgo
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Raelians prepare for birth of clone
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Canadian Press
Thursday, December 19, 2002
The Raelians, a religious sect run by a Quebec-based leader who wants to set up an embassy for extraterrestrials, claims it will deliver the first human clone within 14 days, CTV News reported on Wednesday.
Experts told the network that while the Raelian Movement's claim to have cloned a baby is possible, the move is irresponsible.
The Raelians, who set up a human cloning company called Clonaid and began offering a cloning machine for sale last May, say the baby - a girl - will be born before the end of the month, CTV reported.
The director of Clonaid, Dr. Brigitte Boisselier, told CTV they had implanted 10 cloned embryos this spring.
Boisselier said five miscarried but the other five are "doing well," the network reported.
The baby, said to be the genetic duplicate of a American woman in her 30s, will reportedly be born by caesarean section at an undisclosed facility.
Clones are created when genetic material from a single cell is injected into an eggcell that has had its genes removed. The resulting baby is like an identical twin, except that it is born years later.
The Raelian Movement was founded in France by Rael, who was once a French racing-car driver known at Claude Vorilhon, who claimed he was contacted by an extraterrestrial on Dec. 13, 1973.
The extraterrestrial told Rael he was a clone of the supreme extraterrestrial being and prophets including Jesus and Mohammed.
The group claims to have 55,000 members in 84 countries.
Some experts say it's possible that the Raelian cloning claim is true.
"It has been possible after many many attempts to clone other mammalian species . . . there's no reason to think a human being would be very different from other mammals," said Prof. Lawrence Smith of the University of Montreal.
"It is certainly possible that they have accomplished what they claim to have accomplished," Princeton professor Lee Silver told CTV.
But Silver said the Raelians must prove it by showing that a DNA sample from the baby is identical to that of the woman.
Cloning experiments have produced numerous deformed and dead animals other experts warn.
"These people who claim to clone humans - first of all they are highly irresponsible and if they do it they will produce abnormal cloned humans," warned Prof. Rudolf Jaenisch of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
Dr. Patricia Baird , who headed the Royal Commission on New Reproductive Technologies more than a decade ago, has said cloning cells to produce a live organism or cloning to produce cells is ethically wrong.
Reproductive cloning of cows, sheep, pigs and mice has resulted in countless physical and developmental problems and less than three per cent of all cloning efforts have resulted in live births, she said recently.
"Human reproduction cloning is unlikely to be safe in the foreseeable future," Baird said.
"It controls the production of human beings in an unprecedented way," she said. "It opens up the possibility of genetic engineering on humans."
Baird said numerous European countries and Australia have banned reproductive cloning and similar legislation has been proposed in Canada but not approved.
Nadine Gary, a spokeswoman for the Raelians, would not confirm the reports on Wednesday.
"I cannot make any announcements because it's so late, it's impossible to reach Dr. Boisselier," Gary said from Las Vegas.
"I cannot make any announcements right now. The speaker for all of our research and all of the latest developments would be Dr. Boisselier and I'm not at ease saying anything. I would be very happy to arrange an interview, but not to speak on her behalf."
The Raelians aren't the first to claim to have accomplished human cloning.
An Italian fertility doctor has said a cloned boy will be born in early January.
Dr. Severino Antinori has claimed several women are carrying cloned babies but he has offered no evidence.
He told a news conference in Rome last month that the cloned boy is developing in an "absolutely healthy" way.
Antinori would not identify the woman or give her nationality.
When Rael appeared before a U.S. congressional panel on cloning in March 2001 he showed up wearing the snow-white pantsuit with padded shoulders, matching leather lace-ups and his hair pulled back and up in a tight bun.
"They say we're a cult. But we're not a religion. Our god is science," Rael said before testifying.
Rael said the ultimate goal was to allow adults to clone themselves shortly before their deaths.
"We would transfer, or download, or upload, your personality and your soul into this new being," he said.
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Kindgo
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Miguel
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EZEK 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
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Miguel
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The on thing left is that the Lord will "if" give the spirit of life to this---------clone
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Hmmm...I wonder when this statement was actually made. If the baby is to be born 14 days after Wednesday (the 18th), it would be on the 1st. That's not in time for Christmas, nor by the end of the month.
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Paula
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My first thought was why would a woman (presumably one in her right mind) even consider carrying an implanted clone in the first place? Are they getting paid for helping with this Dr. Frankenstein-type research???
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Weekend News Today
Lead: Weekend Staff
Source: Canada.com
Thu Dec 19,2002 -- The Raelians, a religious sect run by a Quebec-based leader who wants to set up an embassy for extraterrestrials, claims it will deliver the first human clone within 14 days, CTV News reported on Wednesday. The Raelians, who set up a human cloning company called Clonaid and began offering a cloning machine for sale last May, say the baby - a girl - will be born before the end of the month, CTV reported. The director of Clonaid, Dr. Brigitte Boisselier, told CTV they had implanted 10 cloned embryos this spring. Boisselier said five miscarried but the other five are "doing well," the network reported. The baby, said to be the genetic duplicate of a American woman in her 30s, will reportedly be born by caesarean section at an undisclosed facility.
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