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helpforhomeschoolers
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Yes, exactly Kindgo:
It is about conditioning us as to what is acceptable.
It is fitting that it would begin in the school system. The school system at least in America has always been about the promotion and development of the humanist agenda and the conditioning of minds to be "good citizens" destruction of family value and replacement with "state value"
Wake up world... the enmy seeks your mind. Conditioning is happening.
50 years ago, you could not show two people in the same bed together on TV; today you can show four and they are all naked!
50 years ago I would not have dreamed of saying the F word in public, drive down the street in front of any middle school you will hear it and more.
50 years ago, a male teacher could not have let anyone know he was sleeping with another male. Today not only does everyone know it but you better not speak against it.
50 years ago, my parents would have never accepted a credit card... not just because they understood the dangerous and wasteful financial implications of living beyond their means but because they wouldnt have given that much personal information to a bank. Today we have smart cards. I changed banks in my town because the one I was out came out with fingerprint ID's. I had never been fingerprinted and didnt want my bank figerprinting me!
50 years ago my parents would not have registered their guns, because if they were registered the government could know where to come and get them.. and we all know about gun registration today!
It is about conditioning us, step by step, untill we willingly accept what ever they dend our way!
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Kindgo
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Hey GoD cHilD,
I am not saying this is it the MARK OF THE BEAST get one of these cards and thats it you are lost forever!
I am saying this is taking us closer to what that Mark will be.
I am saying that giving these cards to the kids will make them more open to a cashless society, and sometime in the furture, it will be easier for the Antichrist to get people to accept his mark.
He will be ruler of the whole world and in order to buy or sell anything people will have to have this Mark. What ever it is.
Let me ask you would you take a chip in your hand, today?
Because its not the Mark?
Weather you believe it or not the technology is here for the Beast to Mark people.
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Kindgo
Inside the will of God there is no failure. Outside the will of God there is no success.
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GoD cHilD
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Hello everyone,
I just wanted to say that I take the scripture
literally. When it says in Rev 13 that we will
be forced to take the mark on our right hand or
forehead, I believe it will be just that. On
our right hand or forehead.
I do not think that micro-chipping your child, or
having a credit card has anything to do with
the mark.
I say this because I believe by accepting the
mark you are making a conscious decision to
denounce God and accept the counterfiet.
I believe that you will be very aware of what
you are doing.
I would however become alarmed if the applications start asking if you are a christian
or not. That could set the stage for people
to start chosing their allegience. Especially
if there were a chance you would be denied
something if you said you were a christian.
These are just my humble opions based on my
understanding.
Blessings,
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Susan
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Well Kindgo, its just one more deceptive step toward the mark. It isn't the mark of course, as you know. But alot of people thingk the mark will come into existence abruptly. I don't believe it will. I believe it will be in a very sneaky, deceptive way. Thats the way satan works and has always worked. Anyone who can't see that all this adds up to the mark is being deceived.
Even God admits that things happen in stages.
It was stages from before Jesus birth to everafter. It was in stages with Noah's flood.
It was in stages for the deliverence of the Israelites from Egypt.
God tells us to watch for the signs in the endtimes. The ID cards for the teens are leading sneakily up to the mark. So are credit cards. I have them and use them but I know to watch out.
The devil will get you comfy in one stage to lower your resistence to him. Then he brings in the next gentle stage of his deception. The Bible shows this through and through.
Thanks for keeping us up to date on things.
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Kindgo
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You cannot see that this is leading stright to the 'Mark Of the Beast'?
Maybe if you read about it in your Bible you too would be able to recognize where the world is headed.
A cashless society, where everyone can and will be tracked. No one will buy or sell without this mark. If you take the mark you are forever condemned to hell.
Just what the Bible says.
Serious about it! Yes I am because, I like to watch Bible prophecy happening everywhere around me.
I believe we are the generation that will see Jesus return and I find that very exciting!
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Kindgo
Inside the will of God there is no failure. Outside the will of God there is no success.
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listener
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we sorta had this debate before didn't we?
it's a HUGE leap from -
'Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.'
to a credit card or identity card!
i'm sorry but the biblical text doesn't mean this.
do you remember Gorbechov (spelling?) the last of the communist rulers in the USSR? yep ... everyone said he had the 'mark of the beast' because of the strawberry birthmark on his forehead and scalp ... until he became acceptable and it became a birthmark.
are we saying that Christians can't have a credit card?
what is disturbing here is that you seem so serious! some opportunist preacher started this off and the 'it fits so grab it' brigade all line up to burn their credit cards so they preserve their Christianity.
hey,ignore that ... i believe this ... well i'm prepared to give it a go anyway ... if my credit card debt disappears in the flames ... it does .. ok count me in.
come on folks ... please.
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HeavenlyWarrior
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One more step towards the mark of the beast.
Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
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Kindgo
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By Helen Hague and Philip Johnston
(Filed: 04/10/2002)
Children's campaigners have accused the Government of using teenagers to introduce a national identity card by stealth.
The Connexions Card - a "smart" card that carries personal data - is being offered to more than two million 16- to 19-year-olds. More than 175,000 have already been issued.
The project, described as the largest in Europe, is being run on behalf of the Department for Education and Skills by Capita, the company behind the new Criminal Records Bureau, which has recently been criticised over delays in recruiting teachers.
Teenagers are not required to possess the cards, although they may be obliged to if their school or college uses them to record attendance. They are also encouraged to apply by the prospect of rewards.
Holders accumulate points for good work or attendance that can be exchanged for trainers, CDs or days out. Since it displays the date of birth and a photograph, it is also being championed by the Government as a proof of age card.
The card has been introduced gradually across the country over the past few months and a high profile national advertising campaign is planned for December.
However, while the Government says the scheme is both benign and voluntary, it is causing alarm among some campaigners.
Terri Dowty, from Action for the Rights of Children, said: "We are concerned that the Government is playing a long game and using the Connexions Card as a means of introducing an identity card by stealth. There would have been fierce objections to the introduction of such a card for adults."
She added: "We are extremely worried by the agenda underlying the Connexions service. The extent of the information being sought from young people and then made available to every conceivable government agency is horrifying."
One of the aims of the Connexions project is to "track" every young person, and ensure their visibility to government agencies.
Three thousand retailers - including Playstation, Panasonic and the British School of Motoring - offer rewards through the Connexions Card website. The department has set aside £100 million to put 2.4 million cards into circulation.
To boost the take-up, the card issuers have offered colleges £1 for each student record they supply - including name, address, date of birth, special educational needs, student enrolment number and digital photograph.
Sue Sampson, a smallholder in Herefordshire, was perturbed to discover that her 16-year-old son John had been signed up for a Connexions Card at school. "It smacks of an embryonic national identity card, softening up young people to release personal data by offering trendy consumer goods," she said.
"With such inducements, teenagers are more likely to get a card without thinking through the implications of releasing personal data," Mrs Sampson added.
"I'm very concerned about the Government's obsession with gathering personal information, and that big business will get hold of spending patterns to target young people. It is an opt-out rather than an opt-in system."
John has since cancelled his card.
A Capita spokesman said: "It is an entirely permission-based initiative - no young person has to have a card. Data on cardholders is not passed on to third parties and the data in the system is protected by extremely rigorous processes that ensure it cannot be abused."
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God bless,
Kindgo
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