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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Caretaker:
[QB]The enemies of Israel will continue to seek ways to attack. Again and again Israel has had to defend herself from overwhelming odds. We see truthseeker posting Palestinian propaganda, in his attempts to attack Israel. Truthseeker should seek out the truth rather than propogating the Islamic pablum of propaganda.
"THE TRUTH IS HATE TO THOSE WHO HATE THE TRUTH"
You prove that statement very well, I speak only the truth and you call it hate.
(I am a very good friend to the TRUE Israel)
"His sheep know His voice and follow"
You don't defend yourself by attacking someone who is suppose to be your ally.
Are you calling propaganda from an eye witness, one of our own soldiers who was there and witnessed it. Of course you believe our anti christ new media over him. You are the one decieved by Israel propaganda, not me.
Why do you choose to believe people that blaspheme our Lord and Saviour, rather than one of our America soldiers.
Rabbi Calls for Genocide of Arabs
During a sermon preceding the 2001 Passover holiday, the influential Israeli Rabbi Ovadia Yosef exclaimed: "May the Holy Name visit retribution on the Arab heads, and cause their seed to be lost, and annihilate them." He added: "It is forbidden to have pity on them. We must give them missiles with relish, annihilate them. Evil ones, damnable ones." Source: Ha'aretz April 12, 2001
Rabbis Place Curse in a Midnight Ceremony in an Israeli Cemetery
ACRE, OCCUPIED PALESTINE - Ultra-orthodox Lubavitch activist Meir Baranes placed a Kabbalistic curse on Pope John Paul II. Three Jewish ultra-orthodox "haredim" took part in the pulsa de nura ("lashes of fire") ceremony in a cemetery. Footage from the rite was broadcast on Israeli Channel 2 television on Monday, March 20. Observers suspect that the ceremony was staged in cooperation with Channel 2, which denied the charge.
Baranes, 32, was alleged to have initiated the ceremony. He is suspected of belonging to a Jewish terrorist organization. Baranes said he and the others were followers of the late Lubavitcher Rabbi, Menachem Mendel Schneerson, a favorite of former Pres. Ronald Reagan. Reagan made the Lubavitch rabbi's birthday "Education Day USA" by public law. The Lubavitch are highly praised by the US media, including NY Times religion editor Peter Steinfels. The Lubavitch operate hundreds of hate sites on the world wide web. On some of these Jesus Christ is defamed and insulted. The Hasidic Lubavitch sect was founded in the 18th century by Rabbi Shneur Zalman whose book, "Tanya" decrees that all non-Jews are "supernal refuse."
"It is a shame for the Jewish people to go crawling to the gentile pope," Baranes said. Baranes's has published leaflets saying that the late Schneerson is God (the Lubavitch believe Schneerson was the Messiah). He has conducted numerous cursing ceremonies.
The midnight rite, which Israeli TV Channel 2 said was enacted last Thursday, March 16 in a cemetery in Safed, recalled rabbinical curses cast on prime minister Yitzhak Rabin prior to his 1995 assassination by Yigal Amir. Participants in the cemetery sounded ritual calls on ceremonial ram's horns. They also singled out Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat and Syrian President Hafez Assad for curses. Source: Jerusalem Post | March 23, 2000 and wire services.
What the Jews talmud says about our Lord Jesus;
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a ***** : "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following statement, complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website) June 20, 2000.
When Jesus condemned them so badly, why would you take up for them.
Matthew 23:27
Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Israel Stabs America in the Back, Sells AWACS Technology to Red China
WASHINGTON, Dec. 23 - William Safire, a New York Times columnist, is not exactly known for his "red-white-and-blue" patriotic Americanism. He is much more notorious for rarely passing up an opportunity to point out that many of the world's "statesmen" are only a phone away when Safire calls. But his Dec. 23 OpEd column, "Israel's Shame," comes as close to being patriotic as any of his pieces we have seen over the years. Even if he restates in it his self-importance again ("Prime Minister Ehud Barak has been ducking me on this" - see http://www.nytimes.com ).
Anyway, what Safire said was hardly extraordinary. It only comes across as such in a dumbed-down America, scared witless of, and robbed blind by, the New World Order's stooges. Only in such states "of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" (Orwell). Only in our (un)free press does it sound like a "big deal" when a "liberal" media columnist calls a spade a spade.
Safire claimed, for example, that it was wrong for Israel to sell its "advanced AWACS battle-management system called the Phalcon" to Red China (for about $250 million, according to a Nov. 11 Times news story). And that it was shameful for Israel to roll out the red carpet for the "Butcher of Beijing," Li Peng, the man responsible for the Tiananmen Square June 1989 massacre.
Of course, it was wrong. And shameful. Especially considering the more than one hundred billion dollars which the U.S. taxpayers have sent to Israel, a country smaller than the state of New Jersey. The latest U.S. budget, for example, which was approved in November following a lengthy battle between Bill Clinton and Congress, earmarked more than $4 billion for Israel, according to a Nov. 21 Ha'aretz report. Israel will receive $1.92 billion in military aid from us, $1.2 billion for implementing the Wye accord, and $900,000 in civilian aid.
Compare the $1.2 billion payoff Israel is to get "for implementing the Wye accord" with the rewards the Bosnian Serbs, for example, received for implementing the Dayton accord. They got foreign governor-dictators, and free air transportation to United Nations' Tribunal jail at the Hague. The lucky ones, that is; the Serbs who didn't get shot in the back by the NATO "peacekeepers," such as Simo Drljaca (see "International Justice Progresses from Kidnapping to Murder" - http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins/tim97-7-6.html ).
All told, 26 percent of all U.S. foreign aid will go to Israel, the Ha'aretz reported, the highest amount for any country. Which means that almost 10 percent of the Israeli government revenues comes from the American taxpayers.
But that aspect of Israel's betrayal - biting the hand that feeds it - has somehow escaped Safire's attention. Guess the "liberal" U.S. media can only handle so many of the truth morsels at a time. Nor did the Times columnist wonder why we are still paying all this money to Israel more than 10 years after the Cold War has ended, and Israel's role as our "our" ace against the Soviet influence in the Middle East had ceased.
In short, for Israel to stab us in the back after all that aid it had received from America was indeed a reprehensible act. Unfortunately, its betrayal is only exceeded by what the Clinton and Bush administrations themselves have done in appeasing the Red Chinese (see "Who Lost China?" - http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins99/tim99-8-3.html ).
Financial issues aside, Safire, to his credit, does not mince words on the Israel's shame. Only he does it for the sake of the Taiwanese and Israeli Jews, not for our sake American taxpayers or soldiers who may suffer the consequences of Israel's AWACS sale to China:
"If the freedom of an island with 22 million souls (Taiwan) is of no concern to Israel, the world will care even less about 6 million Jews getting pushed into the sea. Israeli survival has one dependable guarantor, and the powerful U.S.-Israel alliance is nothing without its moral dimension."
Actually, the "6 million Jews" to which Safire refers above (i.e., an approximation of Israel's population), is an exaggeration. According to the CIA 1999 Factbook, about 80% of Israel's 5.4 million citizens (not 6 million!) are actually Jewish. And only 21% of the Israeli Jews were born in Israel. But, what's a million here, a million there when someone of Safire's stature is trying to make a point.
Safire was right, however, to argue, echoing the Pentagon's concerns, that Israel's military cooperation with China "flies directly in the face of United States security interests. When China last threatened Taiwan, President Clinton was forced to put two U.S. aircraft carriers into the strait. When that happens again, American forces will be directly threatened by Chinese air, naval and missile forces emboldened by Israel's Phalcon battle management."
Which is why Americans who no longer wish to be the doormats and bankrollers of the criminal, anti-Christian, New World Order should "just say no" to such travesties. And "just say yes" to candidates, such as Pat Buchanan, who want to help us to win our country back. Presidents like that may see to it that ALL war criminals, including the NWO leaders, get free transportation - to our own, not United Nations', jails. And that any American "allies" who act against the U.S. interests are punished, rather than rewarded, for their treachery. -----------
Bob Djurdjevic
TRUTH IN MEDIA
Phoenix, Arizona
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The enemies of Israel will continue to seek ways to attack. Again and again Israel has had to defend herself from overwhelming odds. We see truthseeker posting Palestinian propaganda, in his attempts to attack Israel. Truthseeker should seek out the truth rather than propogating the Islamic pablum of propaganda.
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Mitchell G. Bard and Joel Himelbarb in "MYTHS AND FACTS: A Concise Record of the Arab-Israeli Conflict" write: "None of Israel's accusers has been able to explain adequately why Israel would have deliberately attacked an American ship. Confusion in a long line of communications, which occurred in a tense atmosphere on both the American and Israeli sides (a message from the Joint Chiefs of Staff for the ship to remain at least 20 miles off the Egyptian coast never arrived) is a more probable explanation." [Unless you wish to accept one of the conspiracy theories that suggests that Israel attacked the Liberty because the U.S. was passing strategic intelligence information to the Arabs. Some actually believe that, but conspiracists will grab at anything to make their argument seem more credible.]
They write: "Accidents caused by "friendly fire" are not uncommon in wartime. In 1988, the U.S. Navy mistakenly downed an Iranian passenger plane, killing 290 civilians. During the Gulf War, 35 of the 148 Americans who died in battle were killed by "friendly fire." In fact, only the day before the Liberty was attacked, Israeli pilots accidentally bombed one of their own armored columns south of Jenin on the West Bank." As a former high-ranking Israeli naval officer, Shlomo Erell, told the Associated Press (June 5, 1977): "No one would ever have dreamt that an American ship would be there. Even the United States didn't know where its ship was. We were advised by the proper authorities that there was no American ship within 100 miles."
Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara told Congress on July 26, 1967: "It was the conclusion of the investigatory body, headed by an admiral of the navy in whom we have great confidence, that the attack was not intentional."
Israel did of course apologize for the tragedy and paid millions of dollars in reparations to the United States and to the families of the victims.
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A Servant of Christ,
Drew
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16: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh..
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From the Washington Times of June 6, 2002,
a full-page advertisement on page 11:
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U.S.S. LIBERTY VETERANS ASSOCIATION
June 1, 2002
President George W. Bush
Commander in Chief, White House, Washington D.C.
Dear Mr. President,
Saturday, June 8, 2002 marks the 35th
anniversary of probably the most shameful day in
American history. That day America's banner and
honor was treacherously trashed by our so-called
ally, Israel. Thirty four Americans were brutally
slaughtered, 172 wounded, including myself, and
America's most sophisticated intelligence ship was
so badly damaged it had to be scrapped. Israel
deliberately attacked America's virtually unarmed
USS LIBERTY in international waters, knowing full
well our identity, in an assault that lasted as
long as the attack on Pearl Harbor.
On that bright, sunny infamous day, the LIBERTY
had a large American flag flapping in the wind and
10' high I.D. markings on her hull which were
clearly visible during the full six hours (6:00
A.M. to 12:00 Noon) that low flying, slow moving,
propeller recons distinctly marked with Star of
Davids reconnoitered our ship. Overheard radio
transmission of the pilots confirmed that the
Israel had positively identified the LIBERTY as
American.
Suddenly at 2:00 p.m., the government of Israel
put a knife in the back of America. In a diabolic
attempt at deception, the Israelis began the
attack with unmarked jet fighters using rockets,
cannons, and napalm on our unprotected ship. Then
three motor torpedo boats arrived on the scene and
fired 6 torpedoes at us, one hitting its mark,
midship's on the starboard side, instantly blowing
to bits 25 of America's finest young men. The
torpedo gunmen shot at our firefighters and
stretcher bear- ers, using us as target practice,
maiming and murdering as many of America's sons as
they could.
The captain ordered us to prepare to abandon
ship as the ship was in grave danger of sinking
from a torpedo hit that left a 40' x 40' hole in
her. There were only 3 life rafts left that they
hadn't already destroyed. We put them over the
side to put as many wounded in as possible. The
torpedo boats machine gunned the life rafts and
sank two of them and took one aboard their boat --
no survivors were to be taken! Helicopters were
overhead to board our ship with Israeli commandos
at the ready to finish us off.
Responding to a S.O.S. from the LIBERTY, the
USS SARATOGA launched their jets approximately 15
minutes into the vicious Israeli attack. Within
minutes after the launch, incredibly and
inexplicably, Washington shamefully and
unconscionably recalled the jets, abandoning
helpless American sailors under fire, and
subjecting them to an additional two hours of
barbaric Israeli bombardment and butchery.
Fortuitously when the Israelis picked up an
invalid message that U.S. help was on the way,
Israeli reluctantly was forced to terminate its
ongoing assault. Without that break, I would not
be alive writing this letter.
Ironically help did not arrive until 18 hours
after the attack when it was only 15 minutes away.
When an American rescue ship finally arrived, what
they found was shocking, the LIBERTY was in
shambles, death on the water. There were 821
rocket and cannon holes in her hull, thousands of
50 caliber armor piercing bullets riddling her
skin, a tunnel size torpedo cavity in her broad
side, and the residue of napalm that had been
dropped to burn us up. Blood and body parts were
strewn across the deck. A sad, outrageous story,
but unfortunately true.
The crew of the most decorated naval ship in
American history was ordered to remain silent
under threat of court martial, imprisonment or
worse, and we all knew what worst meant. The U.S.
government has never challenged the obviously
phony Israeli excuse of "mistaken identity" nor
have they attempted to expose the dishonorable
cover up that continues to date. Truth and
America's honor were ignominiously sacri- ficed to
provide cover for Israel's transparent lies and
despicable act of perfidy.
Israel's premeditated, sneak attack on the USS
LIBERTY was a direct attack on America. The
disgraceful refusal of unpatriotic American
governmental officials of dubious allegiance to
defend America and come to the aid of brave
Americans under attack can only be characterized
as treasonous.
Mr. President, on behalf of the courageous crew
of the USS LIBERTY, dead and alive, I respectfully
request that you commission a presidential panel
to finally investigate the attack and cover-up of
the USS LIBERTY, and report the truth to American
people.
Thank you, Mr. President. God bless you! God
bless America!
Respectfully,
Phillip F. Tourney,
President USS LIBERTY
Veterans Association
USS Liberty ![[Lighthouse]](graemlins/lighthouse.gif)
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