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This is intended to be as complete a timeline on Russia as can possibly be done. Russia was in the beginning a place for the Vikings to stop for the winter before heading back to their home. They were trading with the Byzantine Romans in Constantinople. The native people of Russia were then known as the Rus.

https://www.raptureready.com/timelines-russia/

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Some heavy stuff going on Bill. archeologist seem to suggest that the temple was not built where the mosque is. i don't no if we will see how it all un ravels judging from your article it seems like it happening, but the covid -19 is slowing it down kind of like a diversion. it sobering

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Also- Netanyahu Considers Lamb Sacrifice On Temple Mount For First time In 2,000 Years

The Sanhedrin tasked Shimshon Elboim, head of the Temple Mount Organizations, with submitting a letter to Prime Minister Netanyahu to perform the ritual korban Pesach (Passover sacrifice) in its proper place, the Temple Mount, and in its Biblically mandated time, Wednesday afternoon, the eve of the Passover feast.

"God forbid we should allow the coronavirus to strike His children with rising up to bring about the solution given in the Torah for epidemics," the letter read.

The request comes in the wake of the government rejecting requests to perform a reenactment of the korban Pesach. The full-dress reenactment has taken place for the past nine years, drawing large crowds of the devoted, but this year, the request to hold the event was denied due to Health Ministry restrictions.

"The project is of the utmost importance for all of mankind," Rabbi Hillel Weiss, spokesman for the Sanhedrin told Breaking Israel News. He noted that the original Passover sacrifice offered in Egypt on the night before the Exodus was intended to stop the final plague which was described as a נֶגֶף (negef: disease). In addition, King David purchased the Temple Mount, built and altar, and offered a sacrifice to stop a plague.

The ritual will include burning the incense that is prepared for the exclusive use by the Kohanim in the Temple Service. The incense is considered an essential element in ending epidemics.

Every year, the Israeli police stop several people attempting to bring sheep onto the Temple Mount for the purposes of personal sacrifices. Also, requests to perform the ceremony in the proper place and at the proper time have always been rejected. But the request from the Sanhedrin received an unexpectedly different response this year.

"Usually, this type of request is rejected out of hand," Elboim told Breaking Israel News. "We were pleasantly surprised when we were informed that the request was forwarded to Gilad Erdan, the Internal Security Minister in charge of what happens on the Temple Mount."

Even if the request is denied, the non-rejection signals a change of heart for the prime minister who stated one month ago that he rejected an agreement with the right-wing Otzma Yehudit party that would have permitted Jews to pray on the Temple Mount. Netanyahu admitted that he preferred to lose the election rather than give his permission to Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount.

But it is not only Netanyahu who is having a change of heart about the renewal of Torah rituals. The Hebrew language ultra-Orthodox news site, Kikar Shabbat, reported that a Haredi organization named Torat HaKedoshim is now calling for the renewal of the korban Pesach as a solution for the coronavirus.

This is surprising since most ultra-Orthodox leaders have instructed their followers to avoid ascending to the Temple Mount despite an exponential growth in Jews appearing at their holiest site in recent years. This announcement in Kikar Shabbat is believed to be the first time any self-identified ultra-Orthodox group has made such a move.

"The success or failure of the Jewish return to its holiest site and to the Biblically mandated commandments is entirely dependent on the public and not on the government," Elboim said. "Since we do not have a king, the government, after all, serves at the will of the people.

We do not want a conflict with the government but at the same time, if the majority of the Jewish people demand equal rights on the Temple Mount, the government will have to listen, especially at a time when no side has a clear mandate."

In addition to permission to perform the ritual on the Temple Mount, Elboim filed for permits to transport the altar from where it is being stored in Elkana in Samaria to Jerusalem. The Passover sacrifice can only be offered in one place; on the Temple Mount.

The sacrifice does not require an actual Temple structure but it does require an altar that is built to adhere to the Biblical requirements. Such an altar was constructed last year and stands ready.

The square altar is nine feet square and five feet high and is constructed of aerated concrete. The material was ruled to be fit for use in the Temple. In the Talmud, it is explained that steel may not be used to cut the stones of the altar since the Temple Service brings life into the world and steel, as it is used in war, takes life.

Stones for the altar may not be cut using steel since the Temple service brings life into the world and steel though not ideal, it is light and easily transported and sized to be loaded onto a truck. The altar was constructed on a metal frame designed also for purposes of transportability. The intent was to create an altar that could be taken to the Temple Mount at a moment's notice should the need arise.

go here to read the rest- https://www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=3959

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ID2020 & Agenda 2030: Pathway To A Global Government & New World Order?
The health, economic, and globalist effects of Covid-19 have moved us into a new (and perhaps final) era of the birth-pain period Jesus talked about in Matthew 24. In that chapter, Jesus responds to his disciples’ questions about the timing of Jerusalem (and the temple) being destroyed, the end of the Church age, and the return of Jesus. After describing the chronology of the temple destruction of AD70 (24:2), and the bulk of church history of which Jesus said “the end is still to come” (24:4-6), he shifts gears to a time period known as the birth pains (24:8). I, and many other prophecy teachers, believe we are nearing the end of this birth pain period before the world is “delivered into tribulation (24:9).” In between the birth pain period and the tribulation period will be the rapture of the church.

The UN officially adopts a plan to change everything by 2030 with the promise that "no one will be left behind." Bill Gates pledges a "decade of vaccines" that culminates in the year 2030, and at the same time funds ID2020 with a manifesto that says (among many other things), "everyone should be able to assert their identity across institutional and national borders, and across time," and that they want to provide "an alternative to individuals lacking safe and reliable access to state-based systems."

In other words, vaccines and digital ID are merging together. But how?

Enter quantum dot technology. This new technology is well known, freely discussed in various online tech articles, and is the next step beyond microchipping. As I understand it, visible and invisible ink can be tattooed on someone as they are receiving a vaccine.

Embedded in this tattoo is digital technology that verifies they have had said vaccine. Presumably, this could also be technology used to give everyone/anyone a permanent digital ID. Are you wondering who funded (and initiated) this project? You guessed it--the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation (see 3rd link below).

Again, please vet what I am saying. Research the terms: quantum dot vaccine; quantum dot technology.
https://www.sciencealert.com/an-invisible-quantum-dot-tattoo-is-being-suggested-to-id-vaccinated-kids
http://news.mit.edu/2019/storing-vaccine-history-skin-1218
https://bioengineering.rice.edu/news/quantum-dot-tattoos-hold-vaccination-record

Also, here are a few websites (from the sources) to help you begin to vet what I shared above: https://id2020.org and https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Media-Center/Press-Releases/2010/01/Bill-and-Melinda-Gates-Pledge-$10-Billion-in-Call-for-Decade-of-Vaccines

WO/2020/060606

Now, here is the third--and strangest--number I want to bring to your attention. A short time after Bill Gates stepped down from Microsoft's board of directors, the company filed an international patent for a "cryptocurrency system using body activity data." In layman's terms this means, "a cashless financial system connected to individual people."

Some argue that this could just be a patent for technology which allows for smart phones, smart watches, and other wearable technology to connect with a cashless payment system. Of course, that is one logical application. But, when you look at this in view of end-time Bible prophecy, one can't help but connect a few dots. The bottom line is this emerging technology connects individual humans to a database and a cashless system. That is a fact.

The future mark of the beast described in Revelation--and implemented at the mid-point of said period--necessarily requires a cashless system, a data-base driven digital tracking capability, and a mark "on" the skin (not embedded underneath it) that seems to have health/DNA effects associated with it. Think of that in light of everything mentioned above. In my view all of these details are converging and accelerating due to the global effects of Covid-19.

Now here's the rub. And you can vet this for yourself. The patent number is WO/2020/060606. Many have suggested it stands for World Order, 2020, 666--which is of course, the specific number mentioned in the passage in Revelation regarding the mark of the beast. Coincidence? I think not.

https://www.prophecynewswatch.com/article.cfm?recent_news_id=4037

Whether the Lord returns in our lifetime as we suspect or not, we have nothing to fear and should be full of hope, joy, and courage. Our new normal is just as secure as it has always been. God is still on the throne and his Word is true.

PS. And if the 3 strange numbers above weren't enough--how about this one (just brought to my attention by a reader):

H.R. 6666--a proposed bill in congress that allows contract tracing to--and Covid-19 testing at--your house ("and for other purposes" ) by various funded entities. Check it out for yourself and keep an eye on this one as well.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/6666/text

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quote:
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"Herod remodel the Temple."

Thats what the Jews tell me. made the foundation bigger. i don't know who rebuilt the streets might of been him.

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"Herod remodel the Temple."

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quote:
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Hum? Solomon- 1st Temple.
Destroyed.
EZRA 2nd Temple.
What year did Ezra rebuild the temple?
After a relatively brief halt due to opposition from peoples who had filled the vacuum during the Jewish captivity (Ezra 4), work resumed c. 521 BC under Darius I (Ezra 5) and was completed during the sixth year of his reign (c. 516 BC), with the temple dedication taking place the following year.

Babylonians destroyed the First Temple, the Romans destroyed the Temple Herod the Great built. Who destroyed EZRA's Temple?

What did Herod build if Ezra already had re-built the temple the 2nd time? Would not Herod the Great had actually build it the third time?

Zerubbabel built the temple and was shut down he finished latter after he got the building permits, so to speak. Nemaih built the walls of the city. Ezra restored the priesthood, Herod remodel the Temple. That bring messiah Jesus who it was all built for. You know that Bill, then messiah Jesus was cut off by the prince and the people who were with him then 70 ad temple was destroyed 7th or 8th century they built the mosque been there every since now it in standing in the way of building the third temple. their trying to make a deal right know to getter done. Imagine if the antichrist get all the paper work and allows them to fulfill their life long dream, they will honor him as messiah. After the temple is built then i think he makes the deal. Don't know exactly how long after, but when he does it will only last for a week, then sudden destruction. Then the lord comes with his angels and destroy the antichrist, take his earthly throne judges the people. The duration of time seem to span many administration. i think were caught up right now judging by whats happening

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Hum? Solomon- 1st Temple.
Destroyed.
EZRA 2nd Temple.
What year did Ezra rebuild the temple?
After a relatively brief halt due to opposition from peoples who had filled the vacuum during the Jewish captivity (Ezra 4), work resumed c. 521 BC under Darius I (Ezra 5) and was completed during the sixth year of his reign (c. 516 BC), with the temple dedication taking place the following year.

Babylonians destroyed the First Temple, the Romans destroyed the Temple Herod the Great built. Who destroyed EZRA's Temple?

What did Herod build if Ezra already had re-built the temple the 2nd time? Would not Herod the Great had actually build it the third time?

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Then we have the temple being destroyed which took place 70 ad.

Mark 13:14; But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Matthew 24:15 pin points where the abomination will be standing

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Hears something you have to understand regardless of what's been said; the the abomination of desolation did not happen in the past before the time of Jesus. Jesus said when you see the abomination that the prophet Daniel spoke about standing in the holy place where it should not be. This is pointing to a future event at the time Jesus spoke this statement. This might clear somethings up. Yes they destroyed the temple and did terrible things, but they left nothing standing in the holy place, until the 7th century.

So Now we see the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. In the 7th century they built the mosque, in the most holeyest place in Jerusalem. The mosque is standing in the Holy place where it shouldn't be. realize this that the mosque is a major point of contention, it is standing in the way of building the third temple. in order to build the 3rd temple the mosque has to be demolished, this will created the desolation attributed to the abomination creating a holy war that seems to be a unsuspected sudden destruction happening quickly.

The antichrist is going to strike up a deal with Israel, it looks like the mosque might be the bargaining chip the antichrist pivots his deal on. There are efforts right now being made to rebuild the temple.

Here is where we are on Daniel's time line; the mosque is the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. The deal being made to destroy the mosque hasn't happened yet, it seems to be in the works. The destruction of the mosque has the potential of creating a serious conflict, creating desolation. This seems to line up reality with the reality of Gods word.[/center]

If this is as you say, then why have not them which be in Judaea fled into the mountains:? They have had centuries to do so?

No, the Bible does not support your theory. The Holy place will be the Holy of Holies, which refers to the inner sanctuary of the Tabernacle.

Danial's time line has been on hold at the 69th week. There is only one more week to be completed.

The last year week still awaits its fulfilment. They are the last seven years before the millennium will be set up. Between the end of the 69 th and the beginning of the 70 th year week lies the actual time of grace, during which the "calendar of Israel" is not valid so to speak. The last year week of Daniel will begin after the rapture of the saints. According to Daniel 9:27 this week will be divided into two parts. The second half of these 3 ½ years is mentioned more than once in the Revelation either as "a time, times and half a time" (Revelation 12:14, compare with Daniel 7:25) or as 42 months (Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5) or also as 1260 days (Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6). If one assumes that it is always the same period of 3 ½ years one discerns that these "prophetic years" are 12 x 30 days.

The Prophecy of the 70 Weeks

Daniel 9:24-27 gives exact indications on the point of time of the Messiah's appearing. After "70 weeks" that is periods of each seven years (= year weeks, compare with Leviticus 25:8) there shall be made an end of sins and everlasting righteousness shall be brought in and a most holy place shall be anointed. The 70 year weeks fall into three periods: seven weeks (= 49 years), 62 weeks (= 434 years) and one week (= 7 years), 490 years in total.

The starting point for counting these 490 years is the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem. This happened in the year 445 BC in Artaxerxes' 20 th year ( Nehemiah 2)*. To begin with follow the seven weeks, that is 49 years, in which Jerusalem was rebuilt under great threat from within and from without. This is partly described in the book of Nehemiah. Then follow the 62 weeks or 434 years leading up to the Messiah. But after the 69 weeks, that is 483 years, the Messiah would be cut off and have nothing.

*According to earlier opinion Artaxerxes' edict was made in 455 BC. If one deducts 483 years one gets the year 28 AC.

This can only relate to the death and ascension of the Lord Jesus. If one calculates these 483 years as prophetical years of 360 days each (12 x 30 days) one gets 173.880 days which including the leap-years result in 476 calendar years and lead to the year 31/32 AC.

There is no fifth beast. Nothing follows Rome. Rome is in exis-tence in the present day. It did not die or disappear. Rome, like Humpty Dumpty, had a great fall. All the king’s horses and king’smen could not put it back together again. All it needs is a leader capable of bringing together all of its divergent parts. There is com-ing a little horn, the man of sin, Satan’s masterpiece, who will accomplish this Herculean task.

https://www.ttb.org/docs/default-source/notes-outlines/no19_daniel.pdf?sfvrsn=2

AND ONLY OUR FATHER KNOWS WHEN CHRIST COMES FOR HIS BRIDE!

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

there is a good possibility it hasn't been realized yet, the book was sealed up until the time of the end. as far as the first beast who goes into perdition there comes another beast that gets it strength from the first beast it a lot to digest. whats real is real. Reality is showing us the mosque, because of it location is a major part of contentions has the potential of be coming a major situation. have to look into it more, cant just except anyone theroy's. We are aproching something here. It seems the mosque and the thrid temple are starting to bump heads a lot harder these days remember how God used the evil intent of Josephs brothers to accomplish his will, this might be the same thing going on. Jesus is the temple of God, he fell three times; the temple of God rose up the third time, only to be put to death. then the temple of God rose up out of death, never to die again.
God's cue, 3rd temple. i don't think the mosque in it self is evil, i think it is look at as evil by God because of what the devil plans to use it for, which is a abomination of desolation, the Mosque is standing in what is consider the holy place by many. Thank for your thoughts, i will try to consider them they have to be proved by the word, there are a whole lot of time zone Babylonian, Hebrew, bc, ad.


Zerubbabel built the temple and was shut down he finished latter after he got the building permits, so to speak. Nemaih built the walls of the city. Ezra restored the priesthood, Herod remodel the Temple. That bring messiah Jesus who it was all built for. You know that Bill, then messiah Jesus wad cut off by the prince and the people who were with him then 70 ad temple was destroyed 7th or 8th century they built the mosque been there every since now it in standing in the way of building the third temple. their trying to make a deal right know to getter done. Imagine if the antichrist get all the paper work and allows them to fulfill their life long dream, they will honor him as messiah. After the temple is built then i think he makes the deal. Don't know exactly how long after, but when he does it will only last for a week, then sudden destruction. Then the lord comes with his angels and destroy the antichrist, take his early throne judges the people. The duration of time seem to span many administration

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Then we have the temple being destroyed which took place 70 ad.

Mark 13:14; But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Matthew 24:15 pin points where the abomination will be standing

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Hears something you have to understand regardless of what's been said; the the abomination of desolation did not happen in the past before the time of Jesus. Jesus said when you see the abomination that the prophet Daniel spoke about standing in the holy place where it should not be. This is pointing to a future event at the time Jesus spoke this statement. This might clear somethings up. Yes they destroyed the temple and did terrible things, but they left nothing standing in the holy place, until the 7th century.

So Now we see the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. In the 7th century they built the mosque, in the most holeyest place in Jerusalem. The mosque is standing in the Holy place where it shouldn't be. realize this that the mosque is a major point of contention, it is standing in the way of building the third temple. in order to build the 3rd temple the mosque has to be demolished, this will created the desolation attributed to the abomination creating a holy war that seems to be a unsuspected sudden destruction happening quickly.

The antichrist is going to strike up a deal with Israel, it looks like the mosque might be the bargaining chip the antichrist pivots his deal on. There are efforts right now being made to rebuild the temple.

Here is where we are on Daniel's time line; the mosque is the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. The deal being made to destroy the mosque hasn't happened yet, it seems to be in the works. The destruction of the mosque has the potential of creating a serious conflict, creating desolation. This seems to line up reality with the reality of Gods word.[/center]

If this is as you say, then why have not them which be in Judaea fled into the mountains:? They have had centuries to do so?

No, the Bible does not support your theory. The Holy place will be the Holy of Holies, which refers to the inner sanctuary of the Tabernacle.

Danial's time line has been on hold at the 69th week. There is only one more week to be completed.

The last year week still awaits its fulfilment. They are the last seven years before the millennium will be set up. Between the end of the 69 th and the beginning of the 70 th year week lies the actual time of grace, during which the "calendar of Israel" is not valid so to speak. The last year week of Daniel will begin after the rapture of the saints. According to Daniel 9:27 this week will be divided into two parts. The second half of these 3 ½ years is mentioned more than once in the Revelation either as "a time, times and half a time" (Revelation 12:14, compare with Daniel 7:25) or as 42 months (Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5) or also as 1260 days (Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6). If one assumes that it is always the same period of 3 ½ years one discerns that these "prophetic years" are 12 x 30 days.

The Prophecy of the 70 Weeks

Daniel 9:24-27 gives exact indications on the point of time of the Messiah's appearing. After "70 weeks" that is periods of each seven years (= year weeks, compare with Leviticus 25:8) there shall be made an end of sins and everlasting righteousness shall be brought in and a most holy place shall be anointed. The 70 year weeks fall into three periods: seven weeks (= 49 years), 62 weeks (= 434 years) and one week (= 7 years), 490 years in total.

The starting point for counting these 490 years is the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem. This happened in the year 445 BC in Artaxerxes' 20 th year ( Nehemiah 2)*. To begin with follow the seven weeks, that is 49 years, in which Jerusalem was rebuilt under great threat from within and from without. This is partly described in the book of Nehemiah. Then follow the 62 weeks or 434 years leading up to the Messiah. But after the 69 weeks, that is 483 years, the Messiah would be cut off and have nothing.

*According to earlier opinion Artaxerxes' edict was made in 455 BC. If one deducts 483 years one gets the year 28 AC.

This can only relate to the death and ascension of the Lord Jesus. If one calculates these 483 years as prophetical years of 360 days each (12 x 30 days) one gets 173.880 days which including the leap-years result in 476 calendar years and lead to the year 31/32 AC.

There is no fifth beast. Nothing follows Rome. Rome is in exis-tence in the present day. It did not die or disappear. Rome, like Humpty Dumpty, had a great fall. All the king’s horses and king’smen could not put it back together again. All it needs is a leader capable of bringing together all of its divergent parts. There is com-ing a little horn, the man of sin, Satan’s masterpiece, who will accomplish this Herculean task.

https://www.ttb.org/docs/default-source/notes-outlines/no19_daniel.pdf?sfvrsn=2

AND ONLY OUR FATHER KNOWS WHEN CHRIST COMES FOR HIS BRIDE!

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

there is a good possibility it hasn't been realized yet, the book was sealed up until the time of the end. as far as the first beast who goes into perdition there comes another beast that gets it strength from the first beast it a lot to digest. whats real is real. Reality is showing us the mosque, because of it location is a major part of contentions has the potential of be coming a major situation. have to look into it more, cant just except anyone theroy's. We are aproching something here. It seems the mosque and the thrid temple are starting to bump heads a lot harder these days remember how God used the evil intent of Josephs brothers to accomplish his will, this might be the same thing going on. Jesus is the temple of God, he fell three times; the temple of God rose up the third time, only to be put to death. then the temple of God rose up out of death, never to die again.
God's cue, 3rd temple. i don't think the mosque in it self is evil, i think it is look at as evil by God because of what the devil plans to use it for, which is a abomination of desolation. Thank for your thoughts.

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quote:
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Then we have the temple being destroyed which took place 70 ad.

Mark 13:14; But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Matthew 24:15 pin points where the abomination will be standing

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Hears something you have to understand regardless of what's been said; the the abomination of desolation did not happen in the past before the time of Jesus. Jesus said when you see the abomination that the prophet Daniel spoke about standing in the holy place where it should not be. This is pointing to a future event at the time Jesus spoke this statement. This might clear somethings up. Yes they destroyed the temple and did terrible things, but they left nothing standing in the holy place, until the 7th century.

So Now we see the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. In the 7th century they built the mosque, in the most holeyest place in Jerusalem. The mosque is standing in the Holy place where it shouldn't be. realize this that the mosque is a major point of contention, it is standing in the way of building the third temple. in order to build the 3rd temple the mosque has to be demolished, this will created the desolation attributed to the abomination creating a holy war that seems to be a unsuspected sudden destruction happening quickly.

The antichrist is going to strike up a deal with Israel, it looks like the mosque might be the bargaining chip the antichrist pivots his deal on. There are efforts right now being made to rebuild the temple.

Here is where we are on Daniel's time line; the mosque is the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. The deal being made to destroy the mosque hasn't happened yet, it seems to be in the works. The destruction of the mosque has the potential of creating a serious conflict, creating desolation. This seems to line up reality with the reality of Gods word.[/center]

If this is as you say, then why have not them which be in Judaea fled into the mountains:? They have had centuries to do so?

No, the Bible does not support your theory. The Holy place will be the Holy of Holies, which refers to the inner sanctuary of the Tabernacle.

Danial's time line has been on hold at the 69th week. There is only one more week to be completed.

The last year week still awaits its fulfilment. They are the last seven years before the millennium will be set up. Between the end of the 69 th and the beginning of the 70 th year week lies the actual time of grace, during which the "calendar of Israel" is not valid so to speak. The last year week of Daniel will begin after the rapture of the saints. According to Daniel 9:27 this week will be divided into two parts. The second half of these 3 ½ years is mentioned more than once in the Revelation either as "a time, times and half a time" (Revelation 12:14, compare with Daniel 7:25) or as 42 months (Revelation 11:2; Revelation 13:5) or also as 1260 days (Revelation 11:3; Revelation 12:6). If one assumes that it is always the same period of 3 ½ years one discerns that these "prophetic years" are 12 x 30 days.

The Prophecy of the 70 Weeks

Daniel 9:24-27 gives exact indications on the point of time of the Messiah's appearing. After "70 weeks" that is periods of each seven years (= year weeks, compare with Leviticus 25:8) there shall be made an end of sins and everlasting righteousness shall be brought in and a most holy place shall be anointed. The 70 year weeks fall into three periods: seven weeks (= 49 years), 62 weeks (= 434 years) and one week (= 7 years), 490 years in total.

The starting point for counting these 490 years is the commandment to restore and build Jerusalem. This happened in the year 445 BC in Artaxerxes' 20 th year ( Nehemiah 2)*. To begin with follow the seven weeks, that is 49 years, in which Jerusalem was rebuilt under great threat from within and from without. This is partly described in the book of Nehemiah. Then follow the 62 weeks or 434 years leading up to the Messiah. But after the 69 weeks, that is 483 years, the Messiah would be cut off and have nothing.

*According to earlier opinion Artaxerxes' edict was made in 455 BC. If one deducts 483 years one gets the year 28 AC.

This can only relate to the death and ascension of the Lord Jesus. If one calculates these 483 years as prophetical years of 360 days each (12 x 30 days) one gets 173.880 days which including the leap-years result in 476 calendar years and lead to the year 31/32 AC.

There is no fifth beast. Nothing follows Rome. Rome is in exis-tence in the present day. It did not die or disappear. Rome, like Humpty Dumpty, had a great fall. All the king’s horses and king’smen could not put it back together again. All it needs is a leader capable of bringing together all of its divergent parts. There is com-ing a little horn, the man of sin, Satan’s masterpiece, who will accomplish this Herculean task.

https://www.ttb.org/docs/default-source/notes-outlines/no19_daniel.pdf?sfvrsn=2

AND ONLY OUR FATHER KNOWS WHEN CHRIST COMES FOR HIS BRIDE!

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

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People fail to realize that when Jesus was first born the wise men were asked by Herod to let him know where messiah was born when they return, that he might worship him also; they being warned by God not to return to Herod because he wanted to kill messiah.

Time passed Herod came to the conclusion that they were not going to return, the duration of time it took for Herod to realize the wise men weren't coming back, might be explained in his order to kill all the first born males 2yrs and younger, this explains the messiah being cut off 62 weeks after. It seems Herod according to his order waited quite awhile judging by him killing the males 2yrs and younger. This seems to account for messiah being cut off after the 62 weeks


Your in ERROR! Only the Shepard's were invited to the birth of Christ. The Many wise men with 3 different gifts DID NOT FIND Christ in a manger, but as a YOUNG CHILD IN A HOUSE!

Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

Jesus The Messiah to be cut off after the 62 weeks, talked about by the prophet Daniel, to be fulfilled. Joseph fled into Egypt when warned by God, this shows messiah being cut off from israel, by Herod, which explains messiah being cut of by the prince. The house or the manger have nothing to do with Herod's plot. i don't see any other explanation for messiah being cut off after 62 weeks other than when Joseph was hiding out in Egypt with Mary and Jesus. Maybe you can explain it
https://books.google.com/books?id=CeHUIpZMtQ0C&pg=PT4369&lpg=PT4369&dq=the+messiah+being+cut+off+62+weeks+james+vernon+mcgee&source=bl&ots=qVohTEhbSw&sig=ACfU3U2_35QZa0vegJMl6CgA5ppSC25UTg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjcg76KzKfpAhVBVs0KHSU0DLsQ6AEwAHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20messiah%20being%20cut%20off%20 62%20weeks%20james%20vernon%20mcgee&f=false
i never said they were

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Matthew Chapter 2

1 Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

3 When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.

4 And when he had gathered all the chief priests and scribes of the people together, he demanded of them where Christ should be born.

5 And they said unto him, In Bethlehem of Judaea: for thus it is written by the prophet,

6 And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda, art not the least among the princes of Juda: for out of thee shall come a Governor, that shall rule my people Israel.

7 Then Herod, when he had privily called the wise men, enquired of them diligently what time the star appeared.

8 And he sent them to Bethlehem, and said, Go and search diligently for the young child; and when ye have found him, bring me word again, that I may come and worship him also.

9 When they had heard the king, they departed; and, lo, the star, which they saw in the east, went before them, till it came and stood over where the young child was.

10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.

11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

12 And being warned of God in a dream that they should not return to Herod, they departed into their own country another way.

13 And when they were departed, behold, the angel of the Lord appeareth to Joseph in a dream, saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and flee into Egypt, and be thou there until I bring thee word: for Herod will seek the young child to destroy him.

14 When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt:

15 And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.

16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

17 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying,

18 In Rama was there a voice heard, lamentation, and weeping, and great mourning, Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not.

19 But when Herod was dead, behold, an angel of the Lord appeareth in a dream to Joseph in Egypt,

20 Saying, Arise, and take the young child and his mother, and go into the land of Israel: for they are dead which sought the young child's life.

21 And he arose, and took the young child and his mother, and came into the land of Israel.

22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea in the room of his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee:

23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.


Many of the things that Daniel talked about have been fulfilled, the temple was rebuilt, the priesthood restored, the city walls were rebuilt, the streets were redone the messiah was cutoff after 62 weeks; stop for a moment here.

People fail to realize that when Jesus was first born the wise men were asked by Herod to let him know where messiah was born when they return, that he might worship him also; they being warned by God not to return to Herod because he wanted to kill messiah.

Time passed Herod came to the conclusion that they were not going to return, the duration of time it took for Herod to realize the wise men weren't coming back, might be explained in his order to kill all the first born males 2yrs and younger, this explains the messiah being cut off 62 weeks after. It seems Herod according to his order waited quite awhile judging by him killing the males 2yrs and younger. This seems to account for messiah being cut off after the 62 weeks

Recall now God told Joseph to flea into Egypt, until the people who were trying to kill Jesus, were dead. Here we have messiah being cut off by Herod anywhere from 2yrs and younger, which give space to the 62 weeks. this seems to fall into place perfectly with Daniel account.

Then we have the temple being destroyed which took place 70 ad.

Mark 13:14; But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Matthew 24:15 pin points where the abomination will be standing

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Hears something you have to understand regardless of what's been said; the the abomination of desolation did not happen in the past before the time of Jesus. Jesus said when you see the abomination that the prophet Daniel spoke about standing in the holy place where it should not be. This is pointing to a future event at the time Jesus spoke this statement. This might clear somethings up. Yes they destroyed the temple and did terrible things, but they left nothing standing in the holy place, until the 7th century.

So Now we see the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. In the 7th century they built the mosque, in the most holeyest place in Jerusalem. The mosque is standing in the Holy place where it shouldn't be. realize this that the mosque is a major point of contention, it is standing in the way of building the third temple. in order to build the 3rd temple the mosque has to be demolished, this will created the desolation attributed to the abomination creating a holy war that seems to be a unsuspected sudden destruction happening quickly.

The antichrist is going to strike up a deal with Israel, it looks like the mosque might be the bargaining chip the antichrist pivots his deal on. There are efforts right now being made to rebuild the temple.

Here is where we are on Daniel's time line; the mosque is the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. The deal being made to destroy the mosque hasn't happened yet, it seems to be in the works. The destruction of the mosque has the potential of creating a serious conflict, creating desolation. This seems to line up reality with the reality of Gods word.[/center]

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People fail to realize that when Jesus was first born the wise men were asked by Herod to let him know where messiah was born when they return, that he might worship him also; they being warned by God not to return to Herod because he wanted to kill messiah.

Time passed Herod came to the conclusion that they were not going to return, the duration of time it took for Herod to realize the wise men weren't coming back, might be explained in his order to kill all the first born males 2yrs and younger, this explains the messiah being cut off 62 weeks after. It seems Herod according to his order waited quite awhile judging by him killing the males 2yrs and younger. This seems to account for messiah being cut off after the 62 weeks


Your in ERROR! Only the Shepard's were invited to the birth of Christ. The Many wise men with 3 different gifts DID NOT FIND Christ in a manger, but as a YOUNG CHILD IN A HOUSE!

Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

Jesus The Messiah to be cut off after the 62 weeks, talked about by the prophet Daniel, to be fulfilled. Joseph fled into Egypt when warned by God, this shows messiah being cut off from israel, by Herod, which explains messiah being cut of by the prince. The house or the manger have nothing to do with Herod's plot. i don't see any other explanation for messiah being cut off after 62 weeks other than when Joseph was hiding out in Egypt with Mary and Jesus. Maybe you can explain it
https://books.google.com/books?id=CeHUIpZMtQ0C&pg=PT4369&lpg=PT4369&dq=the+messiah+being+cut+off+62+weeks+james+vernon+mcgee&source=bl&ots=qVohTEhbSw&sig=ACfU3U2_35QZa0vegJMl6CgA5ppSC25UTg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjcg76KzKfpAhVBVs0KHSU0DLsQ6AEwAHoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=the%20messiah%20being%20cut%20off%20 62%20weeks%20james%20vernon%20mcgee&f=false

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People fail to realize that when Jesus was first born the wise men were asked by Herod to let him know where messiah was born when they return, that he might worship him also; they being warned by God not to return to Herod because he wanted to kill messiah.

Time passed Herod came to the conclusion that they were not going to return, the duration of time it took for Herod to realize the wise men weren't coming back, might be explained in his order to kill all the first born males 2yrs and younger, this explains the messiah being cut off 62 weeks after. It seems Herod according to his order waited quite awhile judging by him killing the males 2yrs and younger. This seems to account for messiah being cut off after the 62 weeks


Your in ERROR! Only the Shepard's were invited to the birth of Christ. The Many wise men with 3 different gifts DID NOT FIND Christ in a manger, but as a YOUNG CHILD IN A HOUSE!

Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

The point i was trying to make was that through the return of these men, Herod was trying to make a plot to kill messiah. The duration of time it took for him to carry out his plot by killing all the first born males 2ys old or less gives space for Jesus The Messiah to be cut off after the 62 weeks, talked about by the prophet Daniel, to be fulfilled. Joseph fled into Egypt when warned by God, this shows messiah being cut off from israel, by Herod, which explains messiah being cut of by the prince. The house or the manger have nothing to do with Herod's plot. i don't see any other explanation for messiah being cut off after 62 weeks other than when Joseph was hiding out in Egypt with Mary and Jesus. Maybe you can explain it

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hi bill im not a end time researcher, sometimes things just come to me. im not always accurate, but this seems to fit nicely in to the scope of Gods word. if you see any error please let me know or if you can ellaborate on things please feel free .

i posted on carol mystery Babylon i took it down because after checking it out with the word, i found somethings i said seem to be in error on the surface. i didn't want to go in to the details to prove them justifiable. so i just pulled it.

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Many of the things that Daniel talked about have been fulfilled, the temple was rebuilt, the priesthood restored, the city walls were rebuilt, the streets were redone the messiah was cutoff after 62 weeks; stop for a moment here.

People fail to realize that when Jesus was first born the wise men were asked by Herod to let him know where messiah was born when they return, that he might worship him also; they being warned by God not to return to Herod because he wanted to kill messiah.

Time passed Herod came to the conclusion that they were not going to return, the duration of time it took for Herod to realize the wise men weren't coming back, might be explained in his order to kill all the first born males 2yrs and younger, this explains the messiah being cut off 62 weeks after. It seems Herod according to his order waited quite awhile judging by him killing the males 2yrs and younger. This seems to account for messiah being cut off after the 62 weeks

Recall now God told Joseph to flea into Egypt, until the people who were trying to kill Jesus, were dead. Here we have messiah being cut off by Herod anywhere from 2yrs and younger, which give space to the 62 weeks. this seems to fall into place perfectly with Daniel account.

Then we have the temple being destroyed which took place 70 ad.

Now we come to the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. in the 7th century they built the mosque, in the most holeyest place in Jerusalem. The mosque is standing in the Holy place where it shouldn't be. realize this that the mosque is a major point of contention, it is standing in the way of building the third temple. in order to build the 3rd temple the mosque has to be demolished, this will created the desolation attributed to the abomination creating a holy war that seems to be a unsuspected sudden destruction happening quickly.

The antichrist is going to strike up a deal with Israel, it looks like the mosque might be the bargaining chip the antichrist pivots his deal on. There are efforts right now being made to rebuild the temple.

Here is where we are on Daniel's time line; the mosque is the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. The deal being made to destroy the mosque hasn't happened yet, it seems to be in the works. The destruction of the mosque has the potential of creating a serious conflict, creating desolation. This seems to line up reality with the reality of Gods word.

https://bible.org/seriespage/5-seventieth-week-daniel

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Many of the things that Daniel talked about have been fulfilled, the temple was rebuilt, the priesthood restored, the city walls were rebuilt, the streets were redone the messiah was cutoff after 62 weeks; stop for a moment here.

People fail to realize that when Jesus was first born the wise men were asked by Herod to let him know where messiah was born when they return, that he might worship him also; they being warned by God not to return to Herod because he wanted to kill messiah.

Time passed Herod came to the conclusion that they were not going to return, the duration of time it took for Herod to realize the wise men weren't coming back, might be explained in his order to kill all the first born males 2yrs and younger, this explains the messiah being cut off 62 weeks after. It seems Herod according to his order waited quite awhile judging by him killing the males 2yrs and younger. This seems to account for messiah being cut off after the 62 weeks

Recall now God told Joseph to flea into Egypt, until the people who were trying to kill Jesus, were dead. Here we have messiah being cut off by Herod anywhere from 2yrs and younger, which give space to the 62 weeks. this seems to fall into place perfectly with Daniel account.

Then we have the temple being destroyed which took place 70 ad.

Mark 13:14; But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

Matthew 24:15 pin points where the abomination will be standing

15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
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Hears something you have to understand regardless of what's been said; the the abomination of desolation did not happen in the past before the time of Jesus. Jesus said when you see the abomination that the prophet Daniel spoke about standing in the holy place where it should not be. This is pointing to a future event at the time Jesus spoke this statement. This might clear somethings up. Yes they destroyed the temple and did terrible things, but they left nothing standing in the holy place, until the 7th century.

So Now we see the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. In the 7th century they built the mosque, in the most holeyest place in Jerusalem. The mosque is standing in the Holy place where it shouldn't be. realize this that the mosque is a major point of contention, it is standing in the way of building the third temple. in order to build the 3rd temple the mosque has to be demolished, this will created the desolation attributed to the abomination creating a holy war that seems to be a unsuspected sudden destruction happening quickly.

The antichrist is going to strike up a deal with Israel, it looks like the mosque might be the bargaining chip the antichrist pivots his deal on. There are efforts right now being made to rebuild the temple.

Here is where we are on Daniel's time line; the mosque is the abomination of desolation, standing in the holy place where it shouldn't be. The deal being made to destroy the mosque hasn't happened yet, it seems to be in the works. The destruction of the mosque has the potential of creating a serious conflict, creating desolation. This seems to line up reality with the reality of Gods word.

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