Topic: This changed my life forever...
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Chip, I too have left "Churchianity", but I retired as the pastor of a small church. But I've discovered that the word "retirement" is not in the Bible for those whom God has called into a relationship with him. And it is well to note that his calling and its focus is to a relationship and not to an organized group of friendly "brethren", no matter what you call them. I think that part of Jesus' basic mission in his incarnation was to create "disciples" who would be trained and empowered by the Spirit for lives of effective service in the earthly and heavenly "kingdom of God". I think that us former "professionals" in the church create a lot of confusion among Christians when we persist in trying to reform its structure or eliminate it completely while trying to proclaim the centrality of Jesus. The lordship of Jesus can only effectively be demonstrated by the loving service of transformed disciples who are living as individuals and working together with other disciples for the glory of God wherever they are called to serve, which may even be in churches. I have a new statement about the training process of "Discipleship" on my website, which I recommend to you and your readers. It can be found here: Discipleship. I would be glad to discuss its implications for this thread with you or any of your other viewers.
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The turning point in my life came in 1995.
At that time I was a 24 year-old burned out pastor of a church that
had just closed.
I was a little angry, a little frustrated, and a little depressed.
As I was half-reading and half-praying, I came across a passage
that I had seen hundreds of times before: "[God] has raised us up
together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ
Jesus" (Eph. 2:6).
That word "together" exploded upon my consciousness - together,
I finally grasped the fact that I am in Christ, and Christ is in me.
From there, everything else fell into place.
If I am seated together with Him, then I ascended together with Him.
If I ascended together with Him, then I was resurrected together
If I was resurrected together with Him, then I died with Him.
If I died with Him, then "I was crucified with Christ" (Gal. 2:20).
I knew all those Scriptures... I had read them hundreds of times... I
had taught these things for years...
But on that day, the written Word became the Living Word.
I saw Him.
I saw myself in Him - just one of the crucified, dead, buried,
resurrected, ascended, and seated Branches of a crucified, dead,
buried, resurrected, ascended, and seated Vine.
I saw it backwards and forwards, upside down and rightside up, from
every possible angle and from every possible color.
I did not realize it at the time, but that day, and the revelation
that came to me that day, would mark the beginning of the end of my
career as a preacher for Organized Religion.
Because once I saw Christ as He truly is, I began to see the Body
of Christ as it really is - and as it should be.
I began to see what a poor, miserable substitute Churchianity has
I realized I no longer "fit the suit."
But I still tried.
My mission from that day forward was to be the Grand Reformer,
another Martin Luther who was going to take this revelation into
Churchianity and turn the world upside down.
It wasn't long before my opportunity came.
The next church that extended a ministry position to me probably
thought they were getting the typical Assemblies of God pastor.
What they got instead was a disaster (at least in their mind).
From my perspective, I was just speaking the truth and keeping it
I couldn't figure out why loving people and pointing them to Christ
caused so much hate and anger.
Today, of course, I get it.
I understand the difference between being Christ-centered and
You see, I had always assumed that being Church-centered was pretty
much the same thing as being Christ-centered.
How na´ve and foolish I was in those days.
I also assumed that everyone went to church because they wanted to
Another foolish assumption.
Christ-centered spiritual maturity is NOT the goal of Churchianity;
the goal of Churchianity is to keep people in a perpetual state of
spiritual immaturity, forever dependent upon the pastor to feed
them and the worship team to entertain them.
Scriptural integrity? Only insofar as the Scriptures agree with
their way of doing things.
As Jesus said, "You nullify the Word of God with your tradition."
And as God told Ezekiel, "They come and sit before you as My
people, and they listen to what you say, but they won't do anything
you tell them. To them you're a lovely song playing on an
instrument; they enjoy listening to you, but they won't put
anything you say into practice."
(That's my paraphrase of Ezekiel 33:31,32.)
Being kicked out of church was the best thing that could have
happened to us.
If I had not been kicked out of church, I would still be there
trying to reform it.
Trying to fix something that God never intended to be built to
Occasionally someone says, "Hey Brother Chip, not all churches are
bad! What about all the good pastors? What about all the precious
people who still go to church? Aren't you afraid you're going to
offend someone by painting all of them with such a broad brush?"
If the price of saving a few is to offend the many, then no, I'm
not afraid of offending the many.
I am more afraid of not doing all I can to help people get
delivered from a religion ABOUT Jesus so they can discover a
relationship WITH Him.
One time, the disciples of Jesus came to him and said, "Master,
don't You know the Pharisees were offended by what You just said?"
Jesus replied: "Leave them alone. They are blind leaders of the
blind, and if the blind lead the blind, they will both fall into a
But Lord, what about Nicodemus? Nicodemus was a good Pharisee who
supported Jesus! See, not all Pharisees are bad! Oh no, Jesus
might have offended Nicodemus by lumping them all together into one
broad, general statement about the blind leading the blind! Oh,
Here's what Jesus knows: Nicodemus is going to have to decide if he
wants to follow Jesus or follow the Pharisees, but there is no way
for him to do both at the same time.
"To him who has an ear, let him hear."
In other words, if the shoe fits, wear it.
That goes for Nicodemus and for everyone else trying to have the
best of both worlds.
The School of Christ follows in the same spirit of Jesus: choose
whom you will serve, because you cannot follow Christ and defend
Churchianity at the same time.
If you are sold out for the Lord's purposes, you are on a head-on
collision course with Churchianity.
I'm living proof of that.
Of course, you can try - as I did.
I wish you well, but that's not my battle.
My fight is for God's Purposes to be fulfilled in God's People.
I want to see God's People delivered from a Church-centered
tradition so they can have a Christ-centered Faith.
I want to see God's People set free from the shackles of spiritual
immaturity so they can grow in grace and in the knowledge of the
Lord Jesus - spiritually mature, able to serve God and serve others.
I want to see God's People rightly handle the Word of God, able to
handle strong meat, able to exercise discernment, able to test all
things, and able to speak the truth in love without hitting people
over the head with Bible verses taken out of context.
And that CANNOT happen within the narrow confines of Churchianity.
"Come out of her, My People!" (Rev. 18:4).
The opportunity is Outside the Camp, not inside it.
The Harvest is "out there" not "in here."
Let the dead bury their dead.
It's time for us to be about our Father's business.
I am your brother,
P.S. Did you notice that in this letter I alluded to our Three
Core Values? Watch these three short videos to learn more:
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