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Carol Swenson
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God is concerned about the trials of His people. When He was ministering on earth, Jesus groaned when He saw what sin was doing to mankind (Mark 7:34; John 11:33, 38). Today the Holy Spirit groans with us and feels the burdens of our weaknesses and suffering. But the Spirit does more than groan. He prays for us in His groaning so that we might be led into the will of God. We do not always know God’s will. We do not always know how to pray, but the Spirit intercedes so that we might live in the will of God in spite of suffering. The Spirit “shares the burden.”
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becauseHElives
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yes some people do use the Lord's Prayer just to have something coming out of their mouth to look spiritual to other people....much like they use other scripture....the Lord is only looking for one kind of person for the Kingdom much like Gideon when the Lord told Him who to chose for battle...
my point was prayers must be passionate, deep from inside the circumcised heart. Cold or lukewarm prayers are a waste of time.
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WildB
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Originally posted by becauseHElives:
The Lord’s Prayer is not a repetitive prayer….it is the model prayer or the perfect prayer by which all other prayers are measured.
Yahshua when ask by the disciples …teach us to pray, the disciples knew Yahshua knew how to pray. They had seen Him praying all the time, always with miraculous results.
The prayer Yahshua spoke addresses every issue of Holy living….simple and concise….and can not be improved upon!
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
Like everything else in Yahweh’s Kingdom, prayers must be passionate, deep from inside the circumcised heart. Cold or lukewarm prayers are a waste of time.
Its a example model prayer that to many use repetitively as the author of my post accurately pointed out..
A bigger waste of time is a Babe in Christ not learning from this example.
Jesus quoted some Words from (1 Chronicles, Chapter 29, 11) for His example prayer.
1 Chronicles, Chapter 29, 011: Thine, O LORD, is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O LORD, and thou art exalted as head above all. ![[rapture]](graemlins/rapture.gif)
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becauseHElives
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The Lord’s Prayer is not a repetitive prayer….it is the model prayer or the perfect prayer by which all other prayers are measured.
Yahshua when ask by the disciples …teach us to pray, the disciples knew Yahshua knew how to pray. They had seen Him praying all the time, always with miraculous results.
The prayer Yahshua spoke addresses every issue of Holy living….simple and concise….and can not be improved upon!
Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
Like everything else in Yahweh’s Kingdom, prayers must be passionate, deep from inside the circumcised heart. Cold or lukewarm prayers are a waste of time.
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Strive to enter in at the strait gate:for many, I say unto you will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. ( Luke 13:24 )
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16: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh..
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WildB
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by Cornelius R. Stam
Let us suppose that I have just had the joy of leading a soul to Christ. He was a godless, wicked creature until lately, but now, suddenly, a great transformation has taken place in his life. He is overwhelmed with the joy of sins forgiven. Nevertheless a few things still trouble him.
As he stands there, touched by the love of Christ, he says: "I don't look very much like a Christian. Look at my clothes. And I ought to get a job and work like other people do. Then too, I've been a wicked blasphemer. Swearing seems to be part of my nature. I don't know how I'll ever stop it."
I suggest that we pray about it, but he says he has never prayed in his life and doesn't know how, so I teach him. I tell him how simple prayer is -- that he should simply talk to God and say, "Lord, I need a decent suit of clothes and a job, and oh, please help me to stop swearing. I ask it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ."
We arise from prayer, and feeling for the man, I myself get him a suit of clothes and a job and he goes on his way rejoicing.
Now let us suppose that I return ten years later to find that he is happily married, has three children and is living a consistent Christian life. Calling at his home, however, I find that one of his children is seriously ill. We get on our knees to pray for the child and he begins: "Lord, I need a decent suit of clothes and a job, and oh, please help me to stop swearing."
Ridiculous! you say. No man would be so foolish. Yes, ridiculous indeed, yet many people simply repeat prayers in the same way. The so-called "Lord's Prayer" is, of course, a perfect prayer, but it is significant that in giving this very prayer, our Lord cautioned His disciples: "When ye pray, use not vain repetitions as the heathen do... Be not... like unto them... After this manner therefore pray ye..." (Matt. 6:7-9). Yet this very prayer is repeated word for word at funerals and weddings, in storms at sea, before meals and at church services -- on practically any occasion, whether it applies or not.
Thank God for those who know God through the Lord Jesus Christ and can truly enter into His presence in prayer "to obtain mercy and to find grace to help in time of need" (Heb. 4:16).
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