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Michael Harrison
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And in HIS carrying you it is understood that it is HIS responsibility to glorify Himself. It is not the believer's. For that would be works. Even worse, it would be dead works. It also amounts to 'self-righteousness'. For it is not what we 'do'. It is not what we initiate as though we can 'produce' anything. We cannot produce anything righteous. And one is fooling himself if he thinks to 'glorify' God.

Now his works, if they be of faith, will glorify God, or result in God being glorified. But it is not as though one did it himself. It would be the result of relationship. It would be fruit. It would be the evidence of relationship, and that would glorify God.

I feel disappointment in my heart whenever I hear a radio preacher announce that what is supposed to happen in a service is that they are supposed to glorify God. This usually is a statement which is designed to approve the particular group, and discredit another. It is supposed to be a recognition of one flock's 'rightness', and to distinguish it from those who practice or believe things which they do not 'suppose' are the truly healthy attributes, which distinguish who is practicing 'correct' Christianity, or correctly practicing. But it is dreadfully flawed. For it is not even in the work of Glorifying God that one is reconciled, or credited. God, after all, can raise up people to praise HIM from ordinary rocks.

Luk 19:40 And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

It is not our 'work' to Glorify God. For apart from HIM we can 'do' nothing!

Joh 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

But the byproduct of proper relationship is the fact that HE is glorified. And all we did was live our life according to HIS word.

Therefore 'proper' relationship is paramount, else one is self deceived.

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I am describing it as though I am sitting on the sideline observing.

Really, your question is do I perform what I know HE'll do, meaning, does your soul act it out. Of course! And here is both the promise, and the answer of life, to the believer. I perform what I know HE will do, yet I am not the 'performer'. THAT, is the Life of it, the substance of the matter, as in, "I live, yet not I, but Christ." HE adds the life. I 'do' the having. And though I do by faith, the performing, I am not the performer! Amen! God gives the increase.

But having said that I perform what I know HE will do, or is doing, that only applies to certain things. The merits of grace (which Gerstner calls an oxymoron) are the works of HIS which I do not perform. They are mine by 'impartation' (as Gerstner said, "by what the marriage brings to the table." (These statements of his, by the way, contradict each other, wherin his article is otherwise very good, and his faith is nearly perfect, at least!)

So, "the merits, or rewards of grace," are the benefits of relationship, which are 'all' the things HE does, or, died to give to us.

And talking about Gerstner, how I enjoyed his article. But where he was talking about giving a cup of water only, well, he said that "all one's works are rewarded." But, to digress, they are! However some unto being burnt up, and others to the status of laying up treasure in heaven. For those works which are misguided, which eminate from the lusts of the flesh (even things which seem qualified as proper and good in themsleves), are not from participation with the Spirit of God. They are almost always well meaning, but nevertheless they are chaff. We are to aviod producing even the counterfiet 'good' stuff. And this is why we have the scripture:

Heb 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

For the senses 'discern' between regular 'good intentions,' and HIS life, when the believer has the proper marriage relationship, which is through faith.

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Hi, MH, I've only read ur Topic title so right now I'm only answering to your title, okay?

Your Topic title is "Do you trust Him to carry you?"

My question would have been "Do you trust Him to guide all of your steps?"

But of course, If I trust Him to "guide all my steps", than in a way He is also "carrying me".

However, I that that I'm still the one who at any given moment have to decide to implement "what I just heard from the Holy Spirit", or not.

So when you say, "Do you trust Him to carry you?", sometimes I get the impression from what you write that "you are just sort of looking from the sideline at what Jesus does in you", whereas

I see it more as "Jesus guides my every step from heaven by way of the Holy Spirit", and the Holy Spirit conveys to MY spirit what Jesus's Counsel is for any given moment, and then MY spirit conveys Jesus's Counsel (if I had an ear to hear it correctly) to my soul, and then my soul either imnplements the Counsel of God, or the soul implements its own idea (as was its old habit inherited from Adam and Eve).

So the soul is still totally active and responsible for what the soul decises to implement, is the soul not, MH?

Please explain if you see that differently. Thank you, Eden

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Tit 3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

Tit 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to HIS mercy! In other words, HE did it! And since it is ongoing, HE IS DOING it. HE is!

Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

For by GRACE are ye saved. What is it but, HE DID IT. That is what grace is, it is translated as 'HE DID IT'. 'HE DID IT' saved me. 'HE IS DOING IT' is saving me.

And we got 'HE DID IT' through faith. But guess what: HE gave the faith. So, HE DID IT! And since it is an ongoing thing, HE IS DOING it. So, we got HE DID, and IS DOING it, through faith that HE GAVE (or gives us). All that was needed was a little seed faith, otherwise known as 'belief'.

Mat 9:28 And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord.

Mat 9:29 Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.

According to your 'faith,' be it unto you. He didn't ask if they had earned it. HE didn't ask if they would earn it. And if they had insisted on 'working' for it, would that have been a replacement for faith? Would that have made them 'feel' like they had faith? Or would the 'fulfillment' (HAVING) have made them feel like they had faith?

So, if they had it because HE gave it, they would be faithful 'to it'. If they thought it had happened because of their works, they would be faithful to their works. Which are you faithful to?

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

If HE DID IT, or is DOING it, will we walk in it if HE DID IT (and is doing it)? Or will we labor for it?

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