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barrykind
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THANKS FOR THE sights [Smile]

Checking them out

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love barry

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John 3:3;Mark 8:34-38;James 1:27

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1Jn 2:18 "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."

There is no doubt that this biometric infotable will be thought of as a necessary tool for the enforcement of peace and security in populated countries. It is a good selling point to those who believe in it, who know of no other way to fight crime and terrorism in a diverse society where, resultingly, evil can breed. Yet, in itself, it is not the horror and the complete evil that some think that it is.

What makes it possible to come into existence is pressure from undermining elements of society, combined with the newly available technology. I have wondered how fast they can make computers run, thinking from time to time that they have hit a ceiling. I once thought that about cars. I mean, what more could they possibly improve on, i oneceuponatime thought. Now they are becoming passenger jets with all the features of first class, except that they don't have restrooms or fly. They do in fact simulate flight now a days.

Thinking that there was surely no way that they could push computers very far beyond where they are today (i have thought that before every successive generational release), well, i heard something on tv recently. Diamond it will be! New generations of supercomputers, using diamond for the semiconductor can quintubduple what we now know. This means that the science fiction that we see on tv, where a laser can track your movements flawlessly, and shoot you before you can think a thought, are now possible. So with this comes biometric tracking capability which can track every last soul planet wide, making it possible for police to very easily finger and apprehend you, for whatever reason they feel obliged. The real problem with this will come whenever a totalitarian entity will have access to this system, such as the AntiChrist. Until then, though intimidating, it is not entirely the worst thing in itself. It is where it leads to. Scripture says that it will be.

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I would suggest that you check out undergroundchristiannetwork.com there are some messages there you might find very interresting. The one's that deal with this topic are very well spoken. The one that contains a commercial that ran this year on TV is rather interresting. I hope you take your Bible with if you visit. Took mine and wow!!!
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barrykind
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yes for A while now....

barry

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The HEART of the issue is truly the issue of the HEART!
John 3:3;Mark 8:34-38;James 1:27

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hugs and a holy kiss from Texas.

here is a link to government web page, with "biometrics" highlighted in green.

looks like this has been on the drawing board for about 3 years, guess it is not time just yet but they are trying hard to get ur done...

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:jVvB7sUKmd0J:www.centerdigitalgov.com/international/+Government+Plan+for+Biometric+Identification+%26+International+Database+.gov&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us

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The passport of my country was expiring in October 2007, but instead of being able to extend it, no more extensions are granted because my country is coming out with a biometric passport (whatever that means...does it mean it is made of recycled paper?). I think not.

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Search this out with me and lets see if its valid ?)


Tony Snow reveals the Government Plan for Biometric Identification &
International Database - by Brother Mark

Tony Snow reveals the Government Plan for Biometric Identification
of everyone in the United States to be placed into a international
database containing information from Interpol data, FBI data "or any
other data. These all get put into the database" said Snow. He went
on to say that employers will be fined if they do not require
employees to present that "tamper-proof ID, with the biometric
information" before they hire the employee.

Here is a portion of an interview with Tony Snow on the Hew Hewitt
show regarding the Real ID Act (Human Numbering & Biometric
Identification) act:

TS: The federal law enforcement…I' m sorry, the Department of
Homeland Security and I think the FBI will be coordinating on those.
Let me explain a very important part of this plan, which is that you
have to have the tamper-proof ID with biometric information. You
know, there's a cottage industry in fake ID's. You know it and I
know it. You go to the convenience store, and they hook you up with
the social security number of somebody who's long dead, or maybe
somebody who's even alive, and they patch in a picture, and suddenly
they pretend like you're legitimate. There are a series of laws that
have already made their way through that are going to require
biometric information from everybody, real ID for U.S. citizens. And
for those who are not citizens, or cannot provide proof of
citizenship, they're still going to have to provide, they're going
to have to submit for an ID card that will have a picture, that will
have a fingerprint, and at the same time, also will have a valid
social security or other identifying number. That goes into a
federal database . Everything is cross-tabbed and checked to make
sure that you're not faking. So one of the first steps is you've got
to present yourself. And then, based on that information, now you're
going to know who they are, where they work, you do the background
checks. If you find a fingerprint, and it turns out that they're
somebody who held up a liquor store, guess what? You get kicked out.

TS: Well, no, what it does, in point of fact, Hugh, is something
that the law doesn't now do, which is to provide a comprehensive
rendering of the folks who in fact are on our shores. And what it
also does is gives us a greater ability to track and know who's
here, and therefore if you have actionable intelligence, much
greater ability to go after these folks. So no, I strongly dispute
the characterization here. What we have is the situation right now
where you've got millions in the shadows, you don't know who they
are, you don't know whether they have real or illegitimate ID. All
of a sudden, if you've got tamper-proof identification that does
have a biometric marking, it does make it possible for you to go
through and do some analysis, whether it is using Interpol data, or
FBI data, or any other data. These all get put into the database,
and therefore, you still have greater capability, not merely on the
basis of physical evidence that you now are going to have, that you
do not presently possess.

TS: If they're not here illegally, they have not presented the
proper kind of ID, they haven't done, there are a whole series of
things that the employers have to do. They have to do the
verification. If they don't have the proper verification, and if the
employees have not presented that tamper-proof ID, with the
biometric information, then that employer's liable for a $5,000
dollar hit for each and every one of those employees.
http://hughhewitt. townhall. com/Transcript_ Page.aspx?
ContentGuid= 05e27db1- 0060-42b9- a3e4-31b1f40aa2d 0

Shortly after the 9/11 attacks the Department of Defense announced
its IAO/DARPA project (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency)
and unveiled its emblem that contained as its symbol the unfinished
13 course pyramid and the "all seeing eye" a top the pyramid with
its gaze focusing on the entire planet earth. NOTE: after the symbol
garnered a lot of attention DARPA took the page down
[www.darpa.mil/ iao ] (Jim's comment - that SYMBOL is what you see at
the top of this Reality Check update 4/24/2007). The logo contains
the Latin (Roman) words "scientia est potentia" meaning "knowledge
is power." It was reported that IAO is another name for a gnostic
supreme deity and sun-god which is purportedly referred to in
Masonic ritual.

The Information Awareness Office's announced mission is to
"IAO Mission: The DARPA Information Awareness Office (IAO) will
imagine, develop, apply, integrate, demonstrate and transition
information technologies, components and prototype, closed-loop,
information systems that will counter asymmetric threats by
achieving total information awareness useful for preemption;
national security warning; and national security decision making "
(emphasis added)

In a powerpoint presentation still available on the web
(www.darpa.mil/ DARPATech2002/ presentations/ iao_pdf/slides/ PoindexterI
AO.pdf) IAO chairman convicted felon and former Admiral Poindexter
states that the IAO plans to "detect, classify, ID, track,
understand and preempt." The Real ID Act and Biometric ID
provisions of the new immigration bill are the ID part of the
overall plan. Note that Snow clearly tells us that the information
goes into a very large database and "everything is cross-tabbed and
checked" so that it makes "it possible for you to go through and do
some analysis, whether it is using Interpol data or FBI data, or any
other data. These all get put into the database, and therefore, you
still have greater capability . . ."

Consider the following quotes from a New York Times column (November
14, 2002) by William Safire, titled, "You Are a Suspect"
http://www.nytimes. com/2002/ 11/14/opinion/ 14SAFI.html?
ex=1147924800& en=f7d795bcd669f aa6&ei=5070:

"If the Homeland Security Act is not amended before passage, here is
what will happen to you:

Every purchase you make with a credit card, every magazine
subscription you buy and medical prescription you fill, every Web
site you visit and e-mail you send or receive, every academic grade
you receive, every bank deposit you make, every trip you book and
every event you attend — all these transactions and communications
will go into what the Defense Department describes as "a virtual,
centralized grand database."

To this computerized dossier on your private life from commercial
sources, add every piece of information that government has about
you — passport application, driver's license and bridge toll
records, judicial and divorce records, complaints from nosy
neighbors to the F.B.I., your lifetime paper trail plus the latest
hidden camera surveillance — and you have the supersnoop's dream:
a " Total Information Awareness" about every U.S. citizen.

This is not some far-out Orwellian scenario. It is what will happen
to your personal freedom in the next few weeks if John Poindexter
gets the unprecedented power he seeks.

Remember Poindexter? Brilliant man, first in his class at the Naval
Academy, later earned a doctorate in physics, rose to national
security adviser under President Ronald Reagan. He had this
brilliant idea of secretly selling missiles to Iran to pay ransom
for hostages, and with the illicit proceeds to illegally support
contras in Nicaragua.

A jury convicted Poindexter in 1990 on five felony counts of
misleading Congress and making false statements, but an appeals
court overturned the verdict because Congress had given him immunity
for his testimony. He famously asserted, "The buck stops here,"
arguing that the White House staff, and not the president, was
responsible for fateful decisions that might prove embarrassing.

This ring-knocking master of deceit is back again with a plan even
more scandalous than Iran-contra. He heads the "Information
Awareness Office" in the otherwise excellent Defense Advanced
Research Projects Agency, which spawned the Internet and stealth
aircraft technology. Poindexter is now realizing his 20-year dream:
getting the "data-mining" power to snoop on every public and private
act of every American."

William Safire is a former speech writer for Richard Nixon.

Look at more from a page that is no longer available on the DARPA
site.
http://web.archive. org/web/* /http://www. darpa.mil/ body/tia/ terrorism_
info_aware.htm

This is coupled with the ECHELON project
http://fly.hiwaay. net/~pspoole/ echelon.html
Note this was written in 2000:
"In the greatest surveillance effort ever established, the US
National Security Agency (NSA) has created a global spy system,
codename ECHELON, which captures and analyzes virtually every phone
call, fax, email and telex message sent anywhere in the world.
ECHELON is controlled by the NSA and is operated in conjunction with
the Government Communications Head Quarters (GCHQ) of England, the
Communications Security Establishment (CSE) of Canada, the
Australian Defense Security Directorate (DSD), and the General
Communications Security Bureau (GCSB) of New Zealand. These
organizations are bound together under a secret 1948 agreement,
UKUSA, whose terms and text remain under wraps even today. "
Lastly DARPA and the IAO are headed by the convicted felon John
Poindexter of Iran Contra fame who funneled weapons into Iran when
they were holding our Embassy personnel as hostages.

It's almost like the public is sleepwalking. Who would have thought
that the "pro-Christian, " "conservative, " "family
values," "Republican Party" by the legislation that it introduced
(Real ID Act) is going to make sure that every American gets
numbered. The plain and simple logic that they will put forth is
how can we know who does not belong here in these United States
until we know who does? The plain and simple truth is that our
problems are not based on WHO does not belong here. That is a real
straw man. We will (and do) have home grown terrorists.
Unfortunately, we have all the resources already available in this
country without importing them to completely destabilize our
society. The only thing that keeps societies from unraveling is the
moral fabric upon which they are built with common shared values.
Numbering every citizen will not keep people from immigrating
illegally. It is already against the law for them to come here. What
in hell could make any person think that by numbering all of the
legal citizens of the United States that those wanting to come here
illegally will stop? The only possibility is that their pastors in
Mexico have not fallen asleep at the wheel and the Mexicans will
refuse to be numbered. All these laws are intended to do is to
insure that every person in America gets a number and is placed in a
great computer.

So why the big surprise? Get your heads out of the sand people!
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Here is what The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto
him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to
pass ; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant
John: says

13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the
number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number
is Six hundred threescore and six.

15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them
that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and
over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of
glass, having the harps of God.

Agape <><
Brother Mark
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Dear Friends -

We are thankful for Bro. Mark bringing this verification by the US
President's press secretary, Tony Snow.

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The HEART of the issue is truly the issue of the HEART!
John 3:3;Mark 8:34-38;James 1:27

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