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Topic: what's "The Doctrine of Perseverance"?
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becauseHElives
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![[wave3]](graemlins/18.gif) Same here brother, i love you and yours (you are the closeist frirnd i have) ![[Kiss]](graemlins/Kiss.gif) , call me if you can or private email me your nrw phone and i will call you (we have unlimited calling. give me best time ![[thumbsup2]](graemlins/thumbsup2.gif)
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Strive to enter in at the strait gate:for many, I say unto you will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. ( Luke 13:24 )
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barrykind
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i sure love you Bro Dale.. ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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The HEART of the issue is truly the issue of the HEART!
John 3:3;Mark 8:34-38;James 1:27
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becauseHElives
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good post tim...
the one point where calvanist and arminian agree is enduring to the end, ...
if the person claiming salvation doesn't endure to the end they were....
never were saved as the calvanist would say, they just had mental assent....
or they
might have been saved and fell from Grace, never repenting and returning to the Faith as the arminian would say...
either way eternity is a long time
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Strive to enter in at the strait gate:for many, I say unto you will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. ( Luke 13:24 )
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timspong
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quote:
Originally posted by BigHead:
Whether a person is saved forever if God saved him once?
Philippians 1:6 is probably the most well know verse to support the doctrine.
Php 1:6
6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the day of Jesus Christ;
However, I personally contend that many who think they are saved are probably not, so the ones that fall away were never saved to begin with.
There is another thread here about Paul Washer, who is probably the best preacher I have heard on this subject. I.e. Biblical assurance and how the bible teaches us to test ourselves to see if we are in the faith. Simply praying the sinners prayer is not going to save you; just thinking you have faith is not the same as actually having saving faith. I would recommend listening to a few of Paul Washers sermons.
2 Co 13:5
5 Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?--unless indeed you are disqualified.
Some of the “tests” are outlined in 1John
Here is the link for Paul Washers ministry MP3 sermons – I would start with the series on biblical assurance.
http://www.heartcrymissionary.com/index.php?option=com_weblinks&catid=38&Itemid=85
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Timothy Michael Spong
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TEXASGRANDMA
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2Pe 3:17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know [these things] before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
this does make one think that you can be led astray.
betty
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Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
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BigHead
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Whether a person is saved forever if God saved him once?
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Hi, I'm Big head
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