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Eduardo Grequi
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Hey, Brother Caretaker - thanks for the information. I had enjoyed this information for information and teaching . I suspected that Lissa who claims to be Christian but denies the very Word of God where it comes from- she is at best a follower of a different christ or anti-christ. Instead of defending Jesus the Christ and the word of God; she would rather rent it apart. Her words displays the same rheotoric that Satan did to Eve. a spirit from, Satan himself. Instead contextually quoting the Word of God- she quoted out of reference about Jesus of some other places. Let's face it- in this world there are at best over 500,000 people that carries the name of Jesus and at least as much more who carries a name that is a variant of Jesus-like Barabbas, Joshua, Yose, Yeshua, Yoshua etc..
What I am getting at, Baha'i although off rooted from Shiite Islam in Persia in the 1800's- maintains commonalities of all faiths but the ruling authority is neither the so call words of a god, but Adminstrator Head Cleric heading Baha'i. Which its headquarter office is in Isreal. There is a plefera of other so called Christian who may outwardly display a sweet disposition, but inwardly are wolves in sheep attire. As the bible states- "The love of money is the root of all evil"- therefore there is something to be gained financially in following such teaching.
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Yes thanks Drew; I am actually hoping David is gonna delete the links.
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Thanks Caretaker! ![[thumbsup2]](graemlins/thumbsup2.gif)
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Icon 16 posted April 07, 2006 05:40 PM Profile for BORN AGAIN Send New Private Message Edit/Delete Post Reply With Quote It's a New Age book; why are you putting this in the Bible Study Forum?
At best it should be in the Exposing False Teaching forum, but there the Christian folks are focusing on fellow bornagain Christians and not on New Agers so it probably wouldn't fit there either. It will just have to go back to the New Age site for some more "Christ consciousness".
God bless, BORN AGAIN
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Because this book written through the channelling of demons was brought into this forum as a source of truth by Lissa.
I wanted to alert the Brethren who might not know about it. I have the Urantia Book and muddled through a great deal of its pablum, a dozen years ago.
Those who are unschooled in the Word can be deceived by this compilation of abomination.
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It's a New Age book; why are you putting this in the Bible Study Forum?
At best it should be in the Exposing False Teaching forum, but there the Christian folks are focusing on fellow bornagain Christians and not on New Agers so it probably wouldn't fit there either. It will just have to go back to the New Age site for some more "Christ consciousness".
God bless, BORN AGAIN
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http://www.urantia.org/papers/paper122.html
8. THE BIRTH OF JESUS
All that night Mary was restless so that neither of them slept much. By the break of day the pangs of childbirth were well in evidence, and at noon, August 21, 7 B.C., with the help and kind ministrations of women fellow travelers, Mary was delivered of a male child. Jesus of Nazareth was born into the world, was wrapped in the clothes which Mary had brought along for such a possible contingency, and laid in a near-by manger.
In just the same manner as all babies before that day and since have come into the world, the promised child was born; and on the eighth day, according to the Jewish practice, he was circumcised and formally named Joshua (Jesus).
The next day after the birth of Jesus, Joseph made his enrollment. Meeting a man they had talked with two nights previously at Jericho, Joseph was taken by him to a well-to-do friend who had a room at the inn, and who said he would gladly exchange quarters with the Nazareth couple. That afternoon they moved up to the inn, where they lived for almost three weeks until they found lodgings in the home of a distant relative of Joseph.
The second day after the birth of Jesus, Mary sent word to Elizabeth that her child had come and received word in return inviting Joseph up to Jerusalem to talk over all their affairs with Zacharias. The following week Joseph went to Jerusalem to confer with Zacharias. Both Zacharias and Elizabeth had become possessed with the sincere conviction that Jesus was indeed to become the Jewish
Page 1352 deliverer, the Messiah, and that their son John was to be his chief of aides, his right-hand man of destiny. And since Mary held these same ideas, it was not difficult to prevail upon Joseph to remain in Bethlehem, the City of David, so that Jesus might grow up to become the successor of David on the throne of all Israel. Accordingly, they remained in Bethlehem more than a year, Joseph meantime working some at his carpenter's trade.
At the noontide birth of Jesus the seraphim of Urantia, assembled under their directors, did sing anthems of glory over the Bethlehem manger, but these utterances of praise were not heard by human ears. No shepherds nor any other mortal creatures came to pay homage to the babe of Bethlehem until the day of the arrival of certain priests from Ur, who were sent down from Jerusalem by Zacharias.
These priests from Mesopotamia had been told sometime before by a strange religious teacher of their country that he had had a dream in which he was informed that "the light of life" was about to appear on earth as a babe and among the Jews. And thither went these three teachers looking for this "light of life." After many weeks of futile search in Jerusalem, they were about to return to Ur when Zacharias met them and disclosed his belief that Jesus was the object of their quest and sent them on to Bethlehem, where they found the babe and left their gifts with Mary, his earth mother. The babe was almost three weeks old at the time of their visit.
These wise men saw no star to guide them to Bethlehem. The beautiful legend of the star of Bethlehem originated in this way: Jesus was born August 21 at noon, 7 B.C. On May 29, 7 B.C., there occurred an extraordinary conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the constellation of Pisces. And it is a remarkable astronomic fact that similar conjunctions occurred on September 29 and December 5 of the same year. Upon the basis of these extraordinary but wholly natural events the well-meaning zealots of the succeeding generation constructed the appealing legend of the star of Bethlehem and the adoring Magi led thereby to the manger, where they beheld and worshiped the newborn babe. Oriental and near-Oriental minds delight in fairy stories, and they are continually spinning such beautiful myths about the lives of their religious leaders and political heroes. In the absence of printing, when most human knowledge was passed by word of mouth from one generation to another, it was very easy for myths to become traditions and for traditions eventually to become accepted as facts.
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Luke 2:
7: And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
8: And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
9: And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.
10: And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
11: For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
12: And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.
13: And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,
14: Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
15: And it came to pass, as the angels were gone away from them into heaven, the shepherds said one to another, Let us now go even unto Bethlehem, and see this thing which is come to pass, which the Lord hath made known unto us.
16: And they came with haste, and found Mary, and Joseph, and the babe lying in a manger.
17: And when they had seen it, they made known abroad the saying which was told them concerning this child.
18: And all they that heard it wondered at those things which were told them by the shepherds.
19: But Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart
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Lissa is a follower/proponent of the Urantia Book.
Beware of the doctrines which she brings.
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http://www.letusreason.org/Cults17.htm
The purported superhuman authorship of the book is the basis upon which it claims to reveal data that would be inaccessible to mortal man. The purpose of the book is claimed to be a clarification of man's “divine and eternal destiny.”(Basic Concepts, p.1). It asserts it was received through spirit dictation and preaches universality of all religions. It’s concern is with “the spiritual regeneration and evolutionary advancement of mankind through Truths “unencumbered by tradition and dogma” are revealed about Jesus' life, teachings, death and resurrection.(The Urantia Book brochure Urantia Foundation, 1955). Just as animals evolved into humans, humans destined to evolve into spirit beings, called finaliters.
They believe it is like other sacred texts yet superior, the contents of the book are to be evaluated by the “fruits of the spirit” which they produce. In this way there is no authoritative truth but only measured by it subjective effect on an individual.
The book consists of deep and profound philosophical ramblings and shrewd conglomerations of Bible stories and history, as well as other religions. It certainly has the air of being given by a higher intelligence, one that is able to manipulate words and concepts far beyond any human being. At first when reading it (Depending on which portion), it seems biblical and even possible as it proposes new information about God. Much like the book of Mormon it offers more knowledge on Jesus, the destiny of man, our relationship to God and our planet and the universes history.
It is very deceptive as it is shrouded in both biblical and esoteric language and for the ungrounded in truth it can be an false influence. (The only book that is comparable is the channeled book the Course of Miracles. However it is an infant compared to this book). Its purpose is to challenge and distort the Bible as it constantly changes events and persons to be something else. Using the premise and principles and even biblical language these being(s) manipulate the Scripture to a whole new system that only the intelligencia is able to come near to comprehend. When I say near, I mean that even the short sentences are soaked with a plethora of complex spiritual mumbo jumbo that seems to first make sense but its context still eludes you. Of course I can be dismissed as a spiritual infant unable to understand its meaning, yet this is my position and reading the quotes you will see what I mean.
The book is divided into four main sections. Part I describes the central and super universe God as Father, Universal Spirit and Trinity, and various spirit entities. Part 2 deals with our local universe, Nebadon, whose capital is Salvington and has 10 million inhabited worlds. The book tells of the origin and evolution of the central and super-universes, our local universe and the history of our planet Urantia; located in super universe Orvonton, whose capital is Uversa. Part 3 is a history of Urantia, which is the name by which the earth is known to the other beings. Part IV contains a biography of Jesus (Seven hundred pages) including a detailed discussion of the hidden years (from age twelve to the beginning of his public ministry). The Foundation claims this account of Christ's life and teachings is “much more complete than that of -the New Testament, but not contradictory” (Basic Concepts, p. 30). This information is said to be supplied by “a sort of guardian angel of the Apostle Andrew- (ibid.).
According to The Urantia Book, Jesus was born August 21, 7 B.C., had an excellent education, became a skilled carpenter, began a Mediterranean tour in his twenty-eighth year and began his public ministry in 27 A.D. After more than three years, his ministry ended in the crucifixion and resurrection.
The Urantia Book teaches that these beings were created by a God who wished to share the joy and adventure of being to the furthest extent possible. This God dwells in the Isle of Paradise located in the center of the universe of universes.
There is evolution taking place in the many universes involving both matter and personalities. These personalities exist on millions of planets and spheres.
The universe depicted in the Urantia Book has seven levels. The first level, the Isle of Paradise, is the center of the universe around which the other levels form six concentric ellipses. (p.129)
The book gives dates and times that clearly try to give validity to its accuracy of the message contained in its 2,097 pages. I would suggest that any extensive reading should be done with a bottle of aspirin close at hand.
“987,000,000,000 years ago associate force organizer and then acting inspector number 811,307 of the Orvonton series, traveling out from Uversa, reported to the Ancients of Days that space conditions were favorable for the initiation of materialization phenomena in a certain sector of the, then, easterly segment of Orvonton.” “875,000,000,000 years ago the enormous Andronover nebula number 876,926 was duly initiated.” If this sounds like a science fiction movie (star wars perhaps) you may be right.
Next to Havona is the Grand Universe which includes seven Superuniverses, each containing 700,000 local universes. Those Superuniverses revolve around Havona. A local universe called Nebadon lies on the outer edge of the Superuniverse named Orvonton. The planet Urantia, known to us as “earth,” revolves within Nebadon.
From here there is a countdown of various years and stages for the creation of the universe and the earth. “1,000,000,000 years ago is the date of the actual beginning of Urantia history. The planet had attained approximately its present size. And about this time it was placed upon the physical registries of Nebadon and given its name, Urantia.”
“It was at about this time that Urantia was assigned to the system of Satania for planetary administration and was placed on the life registry of Norlatiadek.” This all reminds me of much of the new age and its word assimilation’s or scrambling. Such as Sanat Kumura- notice the same Satania both having the word Satan in it. Is it coincidence or possibly a fingerprint that he is involved?
“900,000,000 years ago witnessed the arrival on Urantia of the first Satania scouting party sent out from Jerusem to examine the planet and make a report on its adaptation for a life-experiment station. This commission consisted of twenty-four members, embracing Life Carriers, Lanonandek Sons, Melchizedeks, seraphim, and other orders of celestial life having to do with the early days of planetary organization and administration.” Notice again a word similar to Jerusalem, the concept of twenty-four (elders) Melchizedek(s) (plural) Seraphim which are all biblical terms persons and beings. What they are proposing is a start of life in this sector of the Galaxy. If someone made a sci-fi picture out of this it would probably do well.
Earth has a long history “The second Eden was the cradle of civilization for almost thirty thousand years. (35,000B.C.)
“These ideas of monotheism matured all over the world not long after the appearance of Machiventa Melchizedek at Salem in Palestine.” this was one of the purposes of Melchizedek's incarnation: That a religion of one God should be so fostered as to prepare the way for the earth bestowal of a Son of that one God. Michael could hardly come to Urantia until there existed a people believing in the Universal Father among whom he could appear.” Again biblical terms but the story is changed. Notice michael is the son of God, something that cults believed especially in the 1800’s.
They have many deities- Supreme Beings, Ascending Beings, Sons of God, and sub divine beings ad infinitum. Within each Order there may be anywhere from a few thousand to many millions of beings (The Urantia Book, pp. 330-344). The Urantia Book speaks of a Trinity of Trinities, three sets of three deities. One Trinity is existential (actual and without origin), and the other two are experiential (potential and with origin). The existential Trinity is called the Paradise Trinity and consists of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit. The Universal Father is considered creator, controller and upholder of all things. He started the whole process of evolution because he “willed not to be self-contained.” (The Paradise Trinity is supreme, consisting of the Universal Father, the Eternal Son, and the Infinite Spirit.) “ The two experiential Trinities are called the Ultimate Trinity and the Absolute Trinity. Both Trinities are finite, derived and evolving. At some point in the eternal future those two Trinities, when actualized, will complement the personalities of the Paradise Trinity ( p. 13.)
Celestial designations are given describing spiritual positions and places such as Salvington, Divington, Nebadon.
DIVININGTON. “This world is, in a unique sense, the “bosom of the Father,” the personal-communion sphere of the Universal Father, and thereon is a special manifestation of his divinity. Divinington is the Paradise rendezvous of the Thought Adjusters, but it is also the home of numerous other entities, personalities, and other beings taking origin in the Universal Father. Many personalities besides the Eternal Son are of direct origin by the solitary acts of the Universal Father.”(p.144)
The book teaches that the eternal Father-Creator created the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit, and yet it claims they exist eternally. Their theology is similar to the Gnostic cults, “Proceeding from this creation, he “down stepped himself further in the creation of many additional divine personalities, less than absolute, more and more nearly approaching the finite” (Basic Concepts, p, 2).
Each local universe was formed and is ruled by a Creator Son. The Universal Father, in conjunction with the Eternal Son, brought into, existence those “only-begotten” Creator Sons. Although they are all unique, they all embody the characteristics of the Universal Father and the Eternal Son. They are all part of the Order of Michael. (pp. 224-.234)
“When a Son of the Eternal Son appeared on Urantia, those who fraternized with this divine being in human form alluded to him as “He who was from the beginning, whom we have heard, whom we have seen with our eyes, whom we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, even the Word of life” (p.74.)
“On your world, but not in your system of inhabited spheres, this Original Son has been confused with a co-ordinate Creator Son, Michael of Nebadon (Jesus of Nazareth), who bestowed himself upon the mortal races of Urantia” (Ibid)
The Only Begotten Son of God, in the URANTIA book is a mute subject. They present a different Jesus from the Bible, though they may quote the Bible He is not the same Jesus as the Bible’s. Prior to His Earthly life, Jesus' real name was Michael of Nebadon. Jesus perfected his divinity by seven incarnations among various creatures of the Universe. His seventh incarnation on Urantia as Michael of Nebadon (p. 1323) “Our Creator Son (another Order of beings) is the personification of the 611,121st original concept of infinite identity of simultaneous origin in the Universal Father and the Eternal Son.
“The Michael of Nebadon is the `only-begotten Son' personalizing this 611,121st universal concept of divinity and infinity,” (p.366 ). Jesus (Michael) is the Son of the Son of God and the Father in the sense that when these two beings had a simultaneous original thought for the 611,121st time, Jesus (Michael) was begotten.”
Jesus (they refer to him by his real name Joshua ben Joseph) is the 7th incarnation of Michael of Nebadon, the 611,121st Creator Son of God. He is attributed to be the creator of this sector (local) of the Universe “It was scarcely a million years subsequent to this epoch that Michael of Nebadon, a Creator Son of Paradise, selected this disintegrating nebula as the site of his adventure in universe building.” So begins the story of Urantia.
The book of Urantia teaches of the hidden years of Christ, from age twelve to his public ministry. It asserts to show the “religion of Jesus,” not the “religion about Jesus.” The Urantia Book’s Christ is only one of the divine sons of God who incarnated himself on Urantia. His purpose was to help us mortals realize that we too are sons of God. He is the wayshower, he is the creator of our local universe, and his incarnation on Urantia was the seventh time he had come to live among creatures of his universe.
All descending Sons of God have high and divine origins (p. 223.)
Of the numerous orders of descending Sons, seven will be depicted in these narratives. Those Sons who come forth from the Deities on the central Isle of Light and Life are called the Paradise Sons of God and embrace the following three orders: 1) Creator Sons--the Michaels; 2) Magisterial Sons--the Avonals; and 3) Trinity Teacher Sons--the Daynals. (p. 223.)
As they function in the superuniverse of Orvonton, the Sons of God are classified under three general heads: 1) the descending Sons of God; 2) the ascending Sons of God; and the trinitized Sons of God. (ibid.)
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